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Title: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: haggerty on August 31, 2017, 03:41:08 PM
I request a 3 second delay before you are able to land after firing your guns.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 31, 2017, 03:43:56 PM
Why?
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: Wiley on August 31, 2017, 03:45:39 PM
 :headscratch: This appears to be a GV thing...  But why does firing your guns have anything to do with it?  The usual grump is give them a few seconds delay so they can't tower out under a bomb.

Wiley.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: Zoney on August 31, 2017, 03:50:22 PM
I think it should be 3.14159265359 seconds so there is time to eat pie.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: haggerty on August 31, 2017, 03:53:58 PM
Because Air Defense GV's are able to fire at a plane until the very last second, towering just before bombs land in their turret.  For some reason proxy kills dont take into consideration of nearby aircraft when ditching a GV.  If the GV is unable to blow you up then he just towers to avoid losing the fight.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: Lusche on August 31, 2017, 03:56:56 PM
For some reason proxy kills dont take into consideration of nearby aircraft when ditching a GV. 

They do, but only on hostile turf. At home, you can ditch a GV all the time as long as you are undamaged.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: haggerty on August 31, 2017, 04:00:21 PM
They do, but only on hostile turf. At home, you can ditch a GV all the time as long as you are undamaged.

Yeah, if that was fixed then a 3 second delay wouldnt be needed.  Far too many people fire freely into the sky and just ditch when you go to fight them.  I avoid wirbles that sit on concrete because I already know there is a 99% chance they will just land if you point your plane in their direction and reup and repeat.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: ccvi on August 31, 2017, 04:39:10 PM
Yeah, if that was fixed then a 3 second delay wouldnt be needed.  Far too many people fire freely into the sky and just ditch when you go to fight them.  I avoid wirbles that sit on concrete because I already know there is a 99% chance they will just land if you point your plane in their direction and reup and repeat.

If they can re-up (VH up), killing them is useless anyway.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: haggerty on August 31, 2017, 04:42:49 PM
If they can re-up (VH up), killing them is useless anyway.

Killing the enemy is never useless, and some vbases are indestructible, you need to kill them to get m3 in
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: Xtrepid on September 01, 2017, 03:49:32 PM
Because Air Defense GV's are able to fire at a plane until the very last second, towering just before bombs land in their turret.  For some reason proxy kills dont take into consideration of nearby aircraft when ditching a GV.  If the GV is unable to blow you up then he just towers to avoid losing the fight.

You mean all the times you put an egg in my skillet... I could've towered out?  :furious

I used to do this... long ago... then I figured... "What is sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander."  :cheers:



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Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: TDeacon on September 06, 2017, 04:50:55 PM
Don't see the need for this. 

From the perspective of base capture, forcing them to "land" or killing them is basically the same result, so long as the VH are up.  All your suggestion achieves is giving you more kills.  Instead of changing the rules, become more skillful. 
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: Wiley on September 06, 2017, 05:00:04 PM
Instead of changing the rules, become more skillful.

I've got to ask...  What skill does he need to develop to allow him to kill people who tower out under his bombs?

Wiley.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 06, 2017, 05:19:40 PM
I think it should be 3.14159265359 seconds so there is time to eat pie.

 :rofl
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: haggerty on September 07, 2017, 01:09:48 AM
I've got to ask...  What skill does he need to develop to allow him to kill people who tower out under his bombs?

Wiley.

Probably wants me to be more skillful in running into his bullets so he gets a kill before he towers.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: atlau on September 07, 2017, 02:32:06 AM
Id rather see some kind of delay instituted instead of the magic instafix gv sups. Too gamey.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: lunatic1 on September 09, 2017, 11:08:09 AM
Id rather see some kind of delay instituted instead of the magic instafix gv sups. Too gamey.

why do you care you don't even Gv?
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: atlau on September 09, 2017, 11:28:55 AM
I occasionally do when i need a change.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: ccvi on September 21, 2017, 03:34:01 PM
Killing the enemy is never useless, and some vbases are indestructible, you need to kill them to get m3 in

One example where killing is required doesn't make a point for killing never being useless. There's plenty of cases where killing is the wrong choice, both in the game as well as in reality. Make sure the enemy is injured but not killed keeps them a lot more busy tending to the wounded than simply killing them.
In here its even worse. Leave one of 3 bombers limp home for the next 20 minutes guarantees that the next bombs he brings will take 40 minutes, not 20 as in the case whe he was killed. Have a GV sitting at a bad position unable to do harm, but don't want him near the hangar, killing is exactly the wrong thing to do. There's many more cases. The only thing unlimited in here are lives.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: haggerty on September 22, 2017, 04:59:15 AM
you've convinced me, I'll no longer kill people in the game.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: Traveler on September 23, 2017, 08:42:24 AM
Killing the enemy is never useless, and some vbases are indestructible, you need to kill them to get m3 in

What Vbases are indestructible?
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: Xtrepid on September 23, 2017, 12:54:43 PM
What Vbases are indestructible?

As I remember... craterma map... two auto guns, one elevated VH surrounded by buildings, and map room. 

And, only three on map? Any other maps... no memory recall.  :headscratch:


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Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: haggerty on October 14, 2017, 04:52:52 AM
The troll power is strong with vehicles, please help!  Fly forever to attack a base and they up wirbles, you accept the challenge and attack their air defense only for them to tower just before your only bomb hits...then you are left to limp home for a ditch depending on how much they hit you.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 18, 2017, 03:23:08 PM
I cant remember the last time I came across someone towering out, to dodge a bomb. :uhoh I attack Gvs almost NON STOP. Maybe I am attacking a better class of GVers? I know it happens, as I have seen it before. That was like 3 years ago though. :uhoh Of coarse, I dont usually bomb Gvs on their field either. Unless VH is dead, so there is some room for that scenario to be missed by my style of attack. Pretty sure, that is why I changed how I attack GVs. They cant tower out on the move and if they dont approach town...they dont matter anyway. Their own(previously) guns will mop them up for me :devil
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: haggerty on October 19, 2017, 09:20:47 AM
I cant remember the last time I came across someone towering out, to dodge a bomb. :uhoh I attack Gvs almost NON STOP. Maybe I am attacking a better class of GVers? I know it happens, as I have seen it before. That was like 3 years ago though. :uhoh Of coarse, I dont usually bomb Gvs on their field either. Unless VH is dead, so there is some room for that scenario to be missed by my style of attack. Pretty sure, that is why I changed how I attack GVs. They cant tower out on the move and if they dont approach town...they dont matter anyway. Their own(previously) guns will mop them up for me :devil

If they are attacking your base you get a proxy for them towering, they may be towering before your bomb hits and you think you got a legitimate kill, but its actually a proxy.  If you are attacking their base and they tower, its a ditch with no proxy.  Or they are just sitting on concrete and land.
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 19, 2017, 05:22:57 PM
 :aok Just doesnt happen to me, that much. Only have I think 3 kills "Not Counted for Score" that are obvious proxies. Rest are in GUN kills. I just wait till they in a spot they cant safely tower from. Plus most probably dont expect me to have bombs,lol OOPSY :devil
Title: Re: 3 second wait to land after firing.
Post by: haggerty on October 19, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
yeah, sounds like you are doing alot of defensive bombing, I fly to their base to attack and they tower there.  Even off the concrete it doesnt give proxies.