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Title: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: 1stpar3 on September 12, 2017, 02:33:52 AM
 :uhoh First off, I know some folk hate the "Man-able" guns in this game. I am not looking to start another "This kills the game" rant either. I just am curious about why these game play options do not count when it comes to scoring. Manned guns are not the easiest of weapons in game to master. I fully understand how folk feel about this and pretty sure that I could potentially have a problem with it, IF every one was manning guns at same time. To me though, manning guns is equivalent to "Milk Running" Bostons scored as attack to boost Attack score.It doesnt really help out all that much and pretty sure most would become bored with it, when they realize they cant hit any thing. It does take skill to use man guns, maybe not as much as needed for Dog Fighting, but skill non the less. Another question is why Resupping strats with Goons has no impact on bomber scores? True we get a pretty substantial amount of "perk points" which is enough for me. Just wondering why it has zero value when it comes to scores. No matter what individual opinions are when it comes to these type of thing, it is game play non the less. Really just thinking of new players. I prefer to do things to help out and some situations tend to push me out of other options. Its a where can I be more effective for my team. If these were scored...it might give new player a sense of accomplishment, so that they keep playing? Getting clubbed gets old but you have to hang around to get better! Thats just me though. Really just curious about why it doesnt count for any thing score wise. Please remain CIVIL. There is enough negativity already! It is just a question  :cheers:
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: zack1234 on September 12, 2017, 07:46:12 AM
Someone shot down one my B17s with a 88 ack👍🇬🇧🛵😀😂

I never hit a sausage
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: Blooz on September 13, 2017, 02:19:19 PM
It's all even.

It doesn't score because if they kill you in a manned gun, they get nothing for it either.
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: 1stpar3 on September 13, 2017, 03:48:32 PM
Right, but change that as well? It wouldnt score as much as killing a tank or aircraft, just wondering why it has its own category under Scores...but isnt scored. :headscratch: Im not new here,just never seen or heard an answer to why this is the situation. :cheers:
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: lunatic1 on September 13, 2017, 05:05:08 PM
1 reason may be- check this: you have 2 gunners shooting at the same plane both hit-plane is dead, who gets the kill?
gunner 1 who hits first or 2nd gunner who hits 2nd and it goes down?

just like gunners on cv/cruiser-both cruiser gunners hit enemy cruiser it goes down who gets the score.
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: Lusche on September 13, 2017, 05:10:25 PM
1 reason may be- check this: you have 2 gunners shooting at the same plane both hit-plane is dead, who gets the kill?
gunner 1 who hits first or 2nd gunner who hits 2nd and it goes down?


You face the same problem in tanks and planes, yet somehow it's still done...  :noid
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: pembquist on September 13, 2017, 05:26:57 PM
THIS IS KILLING THE GAME!
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: Crash Orange on September 14, 2017, 04:25:59 AM
It does show up on your score page, and you get your name in lights landing kills, it just doesn't factor into overall ranking. I don't see any good reason why it should.
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: jimbo71 on September 14, 2017, 09:24:04 AM
1 reason may be- check this: you have 2 gunners shooting at the same plane both hit-plane is dead, who gets the kill?
gunner 1 who hits first or 2nd gunner who hits 2nd and it goes down?

just like gunners on cv/cruiser-both cruiser gunners hit enemy cruiser it goes down who gets the score.

I would guess just like the same scenario in an aircraft or vehicle, the shooter that causes the most damage gets the kill and the other gets an assist.

As for kills listed in manned guns on score stats but no actual "score pts" awarded could be because you never run the risk of being killed.  Kill 2+ aircraft or vehicles then someone killed the gun you're shooting from, you still get your name in lights. Would be impossible to calculate a kill to death ratio
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: Lusche on September 14, 2017, 10:07:44 AM
There is a Fugi cartoon in the title...  :noid
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: The Fugitive on September 14, 2017, 10:12:10 AM
ooh! ooh! Someone has an idea for a cartoon?
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: Lusche on September 14, 2017, 10:19:15 AM
ooh! ooh! Someone has an idea for a cartoon?

Well, when someone says "maned gun" ...  :D
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: FLS on September 14, 2017, 10:32:47 AM
You'll want a pony in that picture.
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: EagleDNY on September 14, 2017, 12:32:40 PM
Manned guns are a complete necessity in a game where the ack so is turned down that a blind monkey can fly through it and not get hit.  I bomb, mostly low-level.  The percentage of  times that auto-ack has stopped me from getting my bombs out on a CV = zero.  The ratio of somebody manning the 5" who knows how to shoot stopping me from getting my bombs out is about 60/40. 

If you want to fly easy mode - get an XBox.  We WANT it to be tough around here.  No challenge otherwise.
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: Oldman731 on September 14, 2017, 01:52:28 PM
If you want to fly easy mode - get an XBox.  We WANT it to be tough around here.  No challenge otherwise.


I like this guy.

- oldman
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: DaddyAce on September 14, 2017, 01:55:11 PM
......If you want to fly easy mode - get an XBox.  We WANT it to be tough around here.  No challenge otherwise.

Agreed, easy is boring.....   :aok
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: Zoney on September 14, 2017, 02:13:14 PM

I like this guy.

- oldman

Seconded
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: Meatwad on September 15, 2017, 06:19:53 PM
This is the reason it is not scored

(https://makkada.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/tantrum.jpg)
Title: Re: Maned ship and field guns
Post by: pembquist on September 15, 2017, 09:03:04 PM
When there are numbers maned guns are great, they look good with their long flowing locks and they keep everybody on their toes and when somebody is good at them they can impinge on the obnoxiousness of the vulch fester's glee. The CV is basically sunk when spotted unless somebody knows there way around the 5".

If there is a "problem" it is when the dreaded low numbers occur and you can fly to a base and nobody is willing to take off but they are willing to "defend" their base by shooting at you with a maned gun. So basically you can get killed by an 88, you can bail, you can go onward to the next base where the same thing will happen or you can go back the way you came. Oh I forgot you can also try to deack the base. Oh Joy!