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Title: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Oldman731 on September 13, 2017, 09:24:43 PM
"...the busiest airfield."

Very nice.  I hated hitting the takeoff button and finding I was out in the wilderness.

- oldman
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Vraciu on September 13, 2017, 09:48:28 PM
"...the busiest airfield."

Very nice.  I hated hitting the takeoff button and finding I was out in the wilderness.

- oldman

That has pluses and minuses.   I often move to a field where there is no action because it is so loud in the tower with engines and stuff.    Not a bad change overall though.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Arlo on September 13, 2017, 09:49:42 PM
Didn't it use to do this already?  :huh
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: ImADot on September 13, 2017, 10:13:10 PM
Didn't it use to do this already?  :huh

It used to put you at the lowest-numbered field for that side.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Arlo on September 13, 2017, 11:00:28 PM
It used to put you at the lowest-numbered field for that side.

I mean in AHII .... awhile back.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Lusche on September 14, 2017, 02:14:47 AM
I mean in AHII .... awhile back.

Was lowest numbered field there as well.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Flossy on September 14, 2017, 05:20:58 AM
Was lowest numbered field there as well.


Of course, on some maps the lowest numbered field also happened to be the busiest, like A1 on Mindanao.  :)
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2017, 08:05:12 AM
Of course, on some maps the lowest numbered field also happened to be the busiest, like A1 on Mindanao.  :)

That explains it. I can cancel my appointment to the crazy doc.  :D
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Flossy on September 14, 2017, 08:06:59 AM
That explains it. I can cancel my appointment to the crazy doc.  :D
LOL! 
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Rebel28 on September 14, 2017, 09:12:47 AM
That explains it. I can cancel my appointment to the crazy doc.  :D

Please don't cancel your appointment or the rest of us will lose our group rate... Thank You
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Puma44 on September 14, 2017, 01:33:16 PM
Please don't cancel your appointment or the rest of us will lose our group rate... Thank You

 :rofl

Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: lunatic1 on September 16, 2017, 10:48:43 PM
that's kinda of silly, I mean don't you automatically look for the busiest field already...
what happened to the deal when a new player logs in they are sent to the country with the lowest numbers.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: 1stpar3 on September 17, 2017, 12:39:52 AM
We have Group Rate? Lunatic...there IS help for you afterall :devil
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: hitech on September 17, 2017, 10:02:33 AM
what happened to the deal when a new player logs in they are sent to the country with the lowest numbers.

Nothing happened to it.

HiTech
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Spikes on September 17, 2017, 10:05:16 AM
"...the busiest airfield."

Very nice.  I hated hitting the takeoff button and finding I was out in the wilderness.

- oldman
Why login and instantly hit a runway button? Not looking at the map at all?
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 17, 2017, 10:18:03 AM
Why login and instantly hit a runway button? Not looking at the map at all?

SA (Situational Awareness) always starts as soon as one clicks an Arena to log in to!  :old:

TC
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Kanth on September 17, 2017, 11:11:45 AM
I really like this new feature btw, thanks  :aok
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Oldman731 on September 17, 2017, 07:44:31 PM
Why login and instantly hit a runway button? Not looking at the map at all?

Nope.  Well, maybe sometimes.

- oldman
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Vraciu on September 17, 2017, 08:52:57 PM
Why login and instantly hit a runway button? Not looking at the map at all?

When I play Spades or Hearts I love going Blind Nil-O.   :banana:
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: BBQsam on September 18, 2017, 04:28:51 PM
That has pluses and minuses.   I often move to a field where there is no action because it is so loud in the tower with engines and stuff.    Not a bad change overall though.

Thats what happens to us old folks,   we want peace and quiet, so we come to ah to play, oldfolk games.

 :D :D :D :D :D :D
 :x :x :x :x :x :x
 :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:


 :old: :furious :old:
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Arlo on September 18, 2017, 04:47:41 PM
One day, I hate to say, the kiddos may look at AH and comment, "They don't make them like they used to." Then they'll probably try ... just to find out it was more than a business model or coding that made it worthwhile. In the meantime, we're being infiltrated by spoilers that 'know the game better' than everyone else .... or think they do.

Carry on
And play
Like the kiddos
Might learn someday
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Puma44 on September 21, 2017, 10:53:59 AM
Nope.  Well, maybe sometimes.

- oldman

You old guys need help finding your way around sometimes.  :rofl
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Wiley on September 21, 2017, 11:25:04 AM
One day, I hate to say, the kiddos may look at AH and comment, "They don't make them like they used to." Then they'll probably try ... just to find out it was more than a business model or coding that made it worthwhile. In the meantime, we're being infiltrated by spoilers that 'know the game better' than everyone else .... or think they do.

Carry on
And play
Like the kiddos
Might learn someday

The problem is so many ideas seem to be to make it more like other games.  I don't understand this.

It's like people watching a game of basketball and going, "You know what would really make this game better?  Full contact."  Now while it would entertain the hell out of me to watch Aussie Rules Basketball for a while, it's not the same game at that point, and likely isn't going to retain the current fanbase all that well.

Lately, I've fallen into PUBG hard for whatever reason.  It doesn't mean I want AH to become anything like that game, because different games scratch different itches for me.  I just don't understand why people want every game to be everything to everyone.  It seems to me like a lot of people want to log into Entertainment Game(tm) which will have available whatever kind of gameplay they're looking for at that moment whether it's FPS, Flight Sim, RTS, CCG, tiddlywinks, or hockey.

It seems like for some reason people don't think it's ok to play different games for different reasons.

In between FSOs and scenarios, the way the MA plays at its best is how I want to play AH.  It's fun, it has the pace it has, and you never quite know what you're going to get.  For me the MA is practice for the events.  At prime time it fulfills that role for me reasonably well.  Outside of that time, I look and if there's nothing going on, I find something else to do.

A lot of people seem to want this to be like WT or WWIIOL.  If they want that gameplay so badly, why aren't they playing those games instead?

Rounds based gaming has its place, but for me, there's nothing like open world multiplayer PVP.  This is one of a very few games that involve vehicles that has this.

Wiley.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: nugetx on September 21, 2017, 11:33:41 AM
There are 50 people logged in right now.

Earlier a few hours was 30.


Someone care to explain why?
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: popeye on September 21, 2017, 11:57:38 AM
There are 50 people logged in right now.

Earlier a few hours was 30.


Someone care to explain why?

When a player launches the game and selects "Online Arenas" and "Melee Arena", they will be logged in to that arena and shown in the number of players online.  Glad to help.   :D
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Lazerr on September 21, 2017, 11:58:16 AM
There are 50 people logged in right now.

Earlier a few hours was 30.


Someone care to explain why?

Jobs
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: puller on September 21, 2017, 12:03:29 PM
There are 50 people logged in right now.

Earlier a few hours was 30.


Someone care to explain why?

A whine has been recorded.

I don't see you fighting more that 2 at a time...You should be able to find plenty of fights...Or gvs to bomb  :aok
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 21, 2017, 01:54:52 PM
There are 50 people logged in right now.

Earlier a few hours was 30.


Someone care to explain why?

Because at the time you saw 30 people online playing, it was right around  2 to 4 PM +/- over in Europe area and it was 7 to 9 am here in the continental US...meaning both areas of the world were mostly working real life jobs or attending school/college

At the time you said the number of people online playing was 50, it is 5 to 7 +/- PM in the European area and players are getting off work and home to log on to fly/play.....and it is 12 to 3 PM here in the states and US players are either taking lunch or are back to work finishing out the work day....

Did you seriously need that explained to you.....
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Lusche on September 21, 2017, 02:02:27 PM
At the time you said the number of people online playing was 50, it is 5 to 7 +/- PM in the European area and players are getting off work and home to log on to fly/play.....and it is 12 to 3 PM here in the states and US players are either taking lunch or are back to work finishing out the work day...[...]

And all that was true before, when we had 100, 150, 300 and more players in the MA at this very time we are having ~75 right now.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 21, 2017, 02:14:43 PM
I was not comparing  numbers, from previous 2008 to current....

Just trying to give him answer
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Skuzzy on September 21, 2017, 02:37:49 PM
There are 50 people logged in right now.

Earlier a few hours was 30.


Someone care to explain why?

My guess is there was a net difference of 20 people, between the two times, which caused the numbers to change.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: nugetx on September 21, 2017, 02:38:13 PM
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And all that was true before, when we had 100, 150, 300 and more players in the MA at this very time we are having ~75 right now.

So why in 2008 you had 100 poeple vs 30 in 2017  and 300 vs 100 ?
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: hitech on September 21, 2017, 02:46:52 PM
So why in 2008 you had 100 poeple vs 30 in 2017  and 300 vs 100 ?

There are less players now then there were in 2008.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Wiley on September 21, 2017, 02:49:07 PM
There are less players now then there were in 2008.

Careful, you might be moving a bit fast for him to keep up.

Wiley.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: 1stpar3 on September 21, 2017, 03:45:03 PM
 :rofl Dang I love you GUYS! This is my WARM UP period. Get a feel for the HUMOR/Smart Donkey Posterior mood of the day,and carry it into the arenas!  :aok Looks to be another FUN evening  :x
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: nugetx on September 21, 2017, 03:48:48 PM
And why there are less players than in 2008 ?
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Wiley on September 21, 2017, 03:50:13 PM
And why there are less player than in 2008 ?

I am guessing it is because some people stopped playing.

Wiley.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: nugetx on September 21, 2017, 03:50:40 PM
I am guessing it is because some people stopped playing.

Wiley.

Why they stopped playing?
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Skuzzy on September 21, 2017, 03:54:19 PM
Why they stopped playing?

Unless you are a stock holder, or an employee, of HiTech Creations, Inc., I am pretty sure you are not going to get access to any of that data.  Just a hunch, mind you.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: ImADot on September 21, 2017, 04:13:41 PM
Why they stopped playing?

Lifetm, other interests, they grew up, they got families...
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Arlo on September 21, 2017, 04:17:56 PM
Some actually died. Do you have an idea to fix that?
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 21, 2017, 04:38:59 PM
Some actually died.

Yes and just my squadron alone, lost whels, LW (LoneWolf), X2Lee, RTR and 1 or maybe 2 more since 2008.... They were awesome squaddies and felt more like Family than just some people you played games with....going back further we lost Buzzard,  Niff, KGann and a couple more as well... All of my "Damned" Brothers were well respected AW then Aces High community members

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Do you have an idea to fix that?

Heh,  y of course he does
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Wiley on September 21, 2017, 05:03:59 PM
Some actually died. Do you have an idea to fix that?

RPS fixes everything, don'tyaknow.

Wiley.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: bustr on September 21, 2017, 05:08:47 PM
POTW have had at least 2 members pass, while over time about 50-60 players have come and gone as squad members. If you research financial studies, one of the biggest problems with millenials as consumers is they want everything for free. Some give them the credit with leading the movement to cut the cord from cable and it's fees, while some point to the millenials and their lack of disposable income since 2008 creating the era of FTP, pay to win, bait and switch games. AH wanting money for a full time subscription is hard to take for some of them once the word Free is associated to AH at Steam. To them, that's an unsustainable demand in a reality that sustainability is one of their most important ideals. 

I don't think nuget cares about this game or playing it, he has a captive audience in our forums which is far more important to him. Hitech provides an excellent soap box while exercising the patience of Methuselah to look at ideas no matter how dead the horse has been beaten. I hope over the years he has received his bribe as Christmas presents from his fans for this.

By the way, it almost looks like when the field you are at is captured, you are moved to the next field in your country with the highest amount of activity.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Arlo on September 21, 2017, 07:27:22 PM
By the way, it almost looks like when the field you are at is captured, you are moved to the next field in your country with the highest amount of activity.

Makes sense. Even then, if ya wanna take off from a less busy field, you can. One might claim AH doesn't offer many options .... but it really does. The point of this thread, however, seems to be .... how can anyone claim they can't find the action when the game, itself, is programmed to place you there?
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Lusche on September 21, 2017, 07:32:38 PM
how can anyone claim they can't find the action when the game, itself, is programmed to place you there?

It isn't. It's programmed to take you to the "most busy" field, which, in my timezone, doesn't necessarily correlate with "action".

But I forgot. I just have to believe in things, then they will happen.  :aok
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Arlo on September 21, 2017, 07:42:13 PM
It isn't. It's programmed to take you to the "most busy" field, which, in my timezone, doesn't necessarily correlate with "action".

But I forgot. I just have to believe in things, then they will happen.  :aok

You're misconstruing 'Just do' (must be a cultural gap). You may still actually have to DO something (ie: switch sides). You may have to actually apply logic (What do the side numbers look like? Which side to I change to? Which side has a large squad - or two - logged on? Do I want to be an underdog in an active fight or do I want to be one more pilot in a horde?) You disappoint me, Snail. With all the charts and graphs and studying of all aspects of the game you devote so much time to, I'd figure that much was obvious. If you're presuming it's not obvious to me then I'm even more disappointed in you.

Anyway, carry on.  :salute
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Halo46 on September 22, 2017, 06:09:09 AM
There are 50 people logged in right now.
Earlier a few hours was 30.
Someone care to explain why?
So why in 2008 you had 100 poeple vs 30 in 2017  and 300 vs 100 ?
And why there are less players than in 2008 ?
Why they stopped playing?

I can definitely tell you in all truth that part of the reason "this" 2008 player was not playing on the date of your observation was in large part because of people like you. Drama queens and pisspoor pouting princess attitudes drove me away from the game more than anything else. It is a great game plagued with a small, but all too vocal - unfriendly player base who made being within range of or spamming forums and text buffers with endless, pointless drivel attacking the game, the creators, the players and rarely, if ever, have a kind, positive, or constructive word to entertain themselves with. Hope that helps clear up your question(s). Enjoy a nicer day than those you troll.  :cheers:

Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: popeye on September 22, 2017, 09:29:29 AM
It is a great game plagued with a small, but all too vocal - unfriendly player base who made being within range of or spamming forums and text buffers with endless, pointless drivel attacking the game, the creators, the players and rarely, if ever, have a kind, positive, or constructive word to entertain themselves with.

Halo, you might want to give it a new try.  There seems to be a lot less bad attitude (at least in Rookland) than there was a couple of years ago.  At least, that is my experience.  I think some of the most vocal whiners voted with their feet.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Wiley on September 22, 2017, 09:58:47 AM
I can definitely tell you in all truth that part of the reason "this" 2008 player was not playing on the date of your observation was in large part because of people like you. Drama queens and pisspoor pouting princess attitudes drove me away from the game more than anything else. It is a great game plagued with a small, but all too vocal - unfriendly player base who made being within range of or spamming forums and text buffers with endless, pointless drivel attacking the game, the creators, the players and rarely, if ever, have a kind, positive, or constructive word to entertain themselves with. Hope that helps clear up your question(s). Enjoy a nicer day than those you troll.  :cheers:

Occasionally the grumbling crescendos on 200, but there's an easy solution for that.  Most of the time the arena's not bad at all.  Squelch early, squelch often if stuff bugs you. :)

Wiley.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Lusche on September 22, 2017, 01:30:41 PM
Occasionally the grumbling crescendos on 200


One of the more positive things I found upon my return for the Steam release was the unexplained absence of the usual "Cheaters" / "The game is rigged!" crowd on the knight side. You know the names...  :noid
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: Wiley on September 22, 2017, 01:56:20 PM

One of the more positive things I found upon my return for the Steam release was the unexplained absence of the usual "Cheaters" / "The game is rigged!" crowd on the knight side. You know the names...  :noid

I hadn't noticed it but now that you mention it you're right.  Hmp.  Collision model still comes up though so at least it probably doesn't feel too unfamiliar. ;)

Wiley.
Title: Re: When entering an arena, the system now tries to place you at..."
Post by: bustr on September 22, 2017, 02:56:56 PM
Come to think of it, I have not nor hear others complain about a few of the AH3 flight visual anomalies since the Steam release like the funky chicken maneuver by 190's while running away.