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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lunatic1 on September 15, 2017, 10:25:33 AM
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if your a knight or a Rook it not worth logging on in the mornings.
Bish have at 10:18 central time 37 players on Knights 12 rooks 18.
why would I even want to try to play with those numbers its crazy.
to me something is not right here, but I don't know what it is.
right now bish have 29% eny, but so what they make up with it with those numbers.
really am tired of this(profanity here)
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This has been the case for years on end now... Move along, nothing to see here :old:
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Being a Rook this is most excellent. An abundance of enemy planes to shoot down. Woot!
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Being a Rook this is most excellent. An abundance of enemy planes to shoot down. Woot!
Admirable attitude^. Promote. Emulate.
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Yeah except likely of the 17 that aren't afk, 14 of them are in GVs.
Wiley.
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This has been the case for years on end now... Move along, nothing to see here :old:
well something needs to be done--just don't know what..
maybe not log on until 3 or 4 oclock
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This has been the case for years on end now... Move along, nothing to see here :old:
well see this my thread so you move along shirley
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I would log in and get some Bish scalps with ya Lunatic but my boss would eventually ask about the joystick. :D :joystick:
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Welcome to my world Lunatic. European daytime player. Sigh.
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well see this my thread so you move along shirley
Fuss! :old:
Where's OBX?
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NOM NOM NOM, Looks like more targets for me then!
Try killing them one at a time.................... :old:
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what max said, if it was a small map those numbers are fun if 80% of the bish are not in m4s/ m3s / m16s. On a big map with gv spawns YAWNNNNN.
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Noone wants a challenge anymore :ahand
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Good to know. I'll have to jump in on the morning shift to have plenty of targets.
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That's been true the last two mornings lunatic, but not as a general rule. I've been flying rook this tour and I totally get the frustration: too busy defending to attack anything, and no one with work with if you do have a moment to breathe. But don't give up yet, I don't think it's the norm.
Solution? h
Hit bish. If they have to fight a two-front war they'll have a harder time steamrolling anything. When I logged off this morning bish had 29 ENY and both bish and nits were taking rook bases. Nits were being short-sighted to say the least: bish have won what, the last 9 maps? Human nature I guess to take something on a platter rather than work for it.
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well see this my thread so you move along shirley
:rofl :rofl
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There's this other arena might be interesting instead:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,389299.0.html
Unless you don't have the minerals of course. Nice quiet MA is much safer :)
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I love unbalanced numbers like this -- Cheep 262s, lots of targets, easy perk farming in low ENY planes, and the whines are so much more poignant when they believe they're an unstoppable steamroller.
I got me 4 Joker scalps yesterday morning in one sortie doing this. One guy got mad that I "turned and HO'd" which I had to politely point out that I never turned... I flew 3K straight at him. :devil
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There's this other arena might be interesting instead:
Totally is... if that's a playstyle you can dig.
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I love unbalanced numbers like this -- Cheep 262s, lots of targets
Good to know. I'll have to jump in on the morning shift to have plenty of targets.
You guys have an odd definition of "lots" and "plenty" during a time where two attacking planes can be called "a horde" already. :headscratch:
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Totally is... if that's a playstyle you can dig.
Teach you everything I know if it'd liven up our days Lusche. Offer's there anyway. :salute
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Teach you everything I know if it'd liven up our days Lusche. Offer's there anyway. :salute
Enjoy dueling. Dueling is love. Dueling is life. Dueling is good and good for you. Dueling is all. Without dueling there can be no happiness.
Wiley.
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You guys have an odd definition of "lots" and "plenty" during a time where two attacking planes can be called "a horde" already. :headscratch:
Well yesterday there was about 8-10 planes along with multiple M3's bumrushing town with only 2 defenders. I upped from the base under attack and killed four in a low E setting before landing successfully due to damage and lack of ammo. They took the base seconds later, but it was a fun quick fight.
It's a far cry from the 20 on 20 furball canyon battles, but I'll take what I can get and not squeak if there's too many for me to kill.
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Why not just let them Roll the Bases? It doesnt really, mean much anyway. Does it? Dont want to GV, fine kill their air. Dont want to defend, fine Pork one of their fields. Go rook or knit and fight horde with horde, swap back come prime time. Why is it that players let OTHER player dictate their having fun OR NOT. Then again,I dont play in mornings and this is YOUR post :police:
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Must be nice being able to play on weekday mornings...In about 20 years my weekday mornings will be free :rock
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Instead of coming to the AH BBS to complain why not try working on getting the players online in the morning to spread the game play around to help all the morning players have a chance to get some action
Has anyone that plays in the morning times (meaning US morning times) even bothered to try this?
You can help your AH community a lot better with trying to help and support positive thoughts/suggestions/recommendations....than posting negative posts
Hope this helps
TC
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Well yesterday there was about 8-10 planes along with multiple M3's bumrushing town with only 2 defenders. I upped from the base under attack and killed four in a low E setting before landing successfully due to damage and lack of ammo. They took the base seconds later, but it was a fun quick fight.
It's a far cry from the 20 on 20 furball canyon battles, but I'll take what I can get and not squeak if there's too many for me to kill.
That happened to me too..
Killed joker 4 times
Battled planes and the gvs
Rollya came to help
2 of us against at least 4 or 5 fighters buffs multiple gvs..4 m3s!!
Killed lots..ended up bailing by maproom..shooting troops till ran outta ammo in my 45..they got base with last 3 troops..
Was fun but overwhelming..
Rollya got out alive though..
I think they need the numbers to put up a half decent job...
Gets a bit boring if it goes on too long
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Good to know. I'll have to jump in on the morning shift to have plenty of targets.
The Morning Crew is a riot. We have more fun on 200 mocking each other than we even do fighting. Esp. when OBX gets shot down for not paying attention. :rofl
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The Morning Crew is a riot. We have more fun on 200 mocking each other than we even do fighting. Esp. when OBX gets shot down for not paying attention. :rofl
OBX is one of my favorite players to sneak up on. He's merrily typing away and then ...........................
:banana:Whammo!
..........tower.
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I remember many years ago, before a lot of you were playing this game that this same argument was going on but instead of the complaints about the Bish numbers it was about the Black Knights squadron. The Black Knights were one of the largest squadrons in the early years, all from Germany. They'd log in early mornings and horde bases with their numbers since the other two countries would probably have combined numbers less than the Black Knights that were online. It was always fun to fight against Rookie and his horde of Germanic barbarians.
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OBX is one of my favorite players to sneak up on. He's merrily typing away and then ...........................
:banana:Whammo!
..........tower.
:rofl :rofl :aok
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- make 1 plane free so there will be higher player retention
- make 2 sides so its easier to find battles as the players will not be as scattered
- perk the planes so there will be higher plane diversity making the game more appealing for new players
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Ah Nuget. Been on holiday have you? :D
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Ah Nuget. Been on holiday have you? :D
Missed me, huh. :)
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Missed me, huh. :)
Oh ho ho ho ho. We all did :rofl
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Instead of coming to the AH BBS to complain why not try working on getting the players online in the morning to spread the game play around to help all the morning players have a chance to get some action
Has anyone that plays in the morning times (meaning US morning times) even bothered to try this?
You can help your AH community a lot better with trying to help and support positive thoughts/suggestions/recommendations....than posting negative posts
Hope this helps
TC
in my book and I see it all the time people come here to complain. so that's just what I did.
so TC if you can't do any better than to come in here and tell me not to complain then just don't post anything.
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Instead of coming to the AH BBS to complain why not try working on getting the players online in the morning to spread the game play around to help all the morning players have a chance to get some action
TC said^^^
yeah TC just let me find what i did with all the Phone numbers for all the Knights so i can call---yeah right.
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- make 1 plane free so there will be higher player retention
- make 2 sides so its easier to find battles as the players will not be as scattered
- perk the planes so there will be higher plane diversity making the game more appealing for new players
Nugetx get the hell off my thread, why do you keep pushing something that ain't gonna work.
the crap your posting here ain't gonna work
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Noone wants a challenge anymore :ahand
Going to work is challenging enough you fatty
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Nugetx get the hell off my thread, why do you keep pushing something that ain't gonna work.
the crap your posting here ain't gonna work
You said you dont know what it is
'to me something is not right here, but I don't know what it is.'
So i'm telling you what it is.
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You said you dont know what it is
'to me something is not right here, but I don't know what it is.'
So i'm telling you what it is.
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in my book and I see it all the time people come here to complain. so that's just what I did.
so TC if you can't do any better than to come in here and tell me not to complain then just don't post anything.
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Instead of coming to the AH BBS to complain why not try working on getting the players online in the morning to spread the game play around to help all the morning players have a chance to get some action
TC said^^^
yeah TC just let me find what i did with all the Phone numbers for all the Knights so i can call---yeah right.
I never called out a specific side/country.... I suggested asking all morning players spreading the action around....
My post was positive recommendations/suggestions to trying to help all morning players have fun
My post was about a positive solution instead of your negative complaint.... I guess you might possibly be one of those that has to follow what others do on this board, since that is what you said you posted for, because you see others coming to the boards to complain, so you did too.... How do you think that helps in anyway.....
Don't attack me for offering a way to possibly help improve y'alls morning gameplay then tell me not to post if I can't do any better..... When I did not exactly tell you to not to complain, I offered you a better more positive way to possibly/hopefully help ALL MORNING PLAYERS!
If you can not realize that I was not personally attacking you, but actually trying to help....then I feel sorry for your inability to grasp the concept of helping your gaming community....
TC
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You said you dont know what it is
'to me something is not right here, but I don't know what it is.'
So i'm telling you what it is.
how would you know what it is, when you don't even play AH3.
well I was just ranting, what it is, is people have to work and apparently Bish have a lot of retired souls that are able to play all day...
nothing you do or think up or say is going to get us to vote for your ideas, so I WISH YOU WOULD STOP PUSHING THEM---HiTech SAID NO.
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- make 1 plane free so there will be higher player retention
- make 2 sides so its easier to find battles as the players will not be as scattered
- perk the planes so there will be higher plane diversity making the game more appealing for new players
1) Absolutley yes.
2) Yes, esp. if numbers stay relatively low.
3) Not sold on this one. An alternative is allowing a limited ETO EW planeset one month, PTO the next, for non-paying customers (or for a reduced rate). Then you'll get diversity of equipment and a boost in numbers.
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if your a knight or a Rook it not worth logging on in the mornings.
Bish have at 10:18 central time 37 players on Knights 12 rooks 18.
why would I even want to try to play with those numbers its crazy.
to me something is not right here, but I don't know what it is.
right now bish have 29% eny, but so what they make up with it with those numbers.
really am tired of this(profanity here)
Sounds like a good time for a Me 262 sortie. :devil
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if your a knight or a Rook it not worth logging on in the mornings.
Bish have at 10:18 central time 37 players on Knights 12 rooks 18.
why would I even want to try to play with those numbers its crazy.
to me something is not right here, but I don't know what it is.
right now bish have 29% eny, but so what they make up with it with those numbers.
really am tired of this(profanity here)
Working stiffs have to work during the day. I try to schedule my doctor appointments and such to give me some day flying, but it is not enough to sway the numbers.
10:18 US Central Daylight Savings Time is 15:18 GMT. Even in the land of Lusche, folks are probably still earning their discretionary spending money.
On the imbalance, that is human behavior. I got nothing on that one. :headscratch:
On the fit of map size to population, that is ongoing problem. Maps can last for days. Which will cross the highs and lows of player count. Again, I got no answer that will satisfy everyone. :headscratch:
Try to stay positive. It is still a great game. :banana: :banana: :banana:
- make 1 plane free so there will be higher player retention
- make 2 sides so its easier to find battles as the players will not be as scattered
- perk the planes so there will be higher plane diversity making the game more appealing for new players
1) Absolutley yes.
2) Yes, esp. if numbers stay relatively low.
3) Not sold on this one. An alternative is allowing a limited ETO EW planeset one month, PTO the next, for non-paying customers (or for a reduced rate). Then you'll get diversity of equipment and a boost in numbers.
Artificial restrictions are generally bad. We are restricted by field distances, fuel limits, ammo limits, time to climb, etc. These are inherent limits in what is being simulated. It adds a good rock-paper-scissors aspect to the game.
The single "free" airplane is a restriction. It will increase the percentage of that "scissors" airplane, and increase the use of the "rock" planes.
With ENY, and perk planes, there are artificial restrictions on airplane choice. One can rationalize that the sky was not ever filled with Me-262s, but the MA is not a historical simulation. The artificial restrictions have evolved over time. I recall at least one ENY adjustment. Perk costs are adjusted on the fly in the arena. The current system does a fair job, is understood, and stable.
Bottom line:
More restrictions to players' choice of actions is BAD. :old:
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More restrictions to players' choice of actions is BAD. :old:
Perks on planes is not a restriction, it is a gameplay mechanic.
Restriction would be if only 5 people on arena could fly the pony for example, but anyone can fly a pony with perks, he just needs to earn it.
The point of earning points to fly a higher tier plane is so you have to go through the earlier planes, if everyone will be doing this, all planes will be used on the arena, making for a more fun and diverse game.
It's not a question of opinion, it's a fact. Fighting vs a few planes gets boring pretty fast because everything feels stale.
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Nugget(x) making sense may give me another stroke.
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Fighting vs a few planes gets boring pretty fast because everything feels stale.
Ohhhhhh, that's why AH hasn't lasted very long then! :rock
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When Bish eny is at 29 I just up a Tempest and pick on them, we were taking bases from them today. Unfortunately I ran into quite a few bomb and bailers even though they had such higher numbers than us.
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Steamers know nothing else but B&B .... until they are:
1: Given a different example.
2: Taught how to gun for themselves and how to enjoy it.
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The single "free" airplane is a restriction. It will increase the percentage of that "scissors" airplane, and increase the use of the "rock" planes.
With ENY, and perk planes, there are artificial restrictions on airplane choice. One can rationalize that the sky was not ever filled with Me-262s, but the MA is not a historical simulation. The artificial restrictions have evolved over time. I recall at least one ENY adjustment. Perk costs are adjusted on the fly in the arena. The current system does a fair job, is understood, and stable.
Bottom line:
More restrictions to players' choice of actions is BAD. :old:
No, paying $14.95 a month is a restriction and the two-weeker-squeakers are not going for it.
We need targets. If giving away the Spit V for free (or something like that) drives numbers and retention then it will increase subscriptions over time. It would certainly stop/reduce the bleeding. Bored people leave.
Two weeks is barely enough time to figure out what is going on in this game for the non-initiated.
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Here's a thought. A rotating 'free plane of the week.' No, wait .... think about it. It doesn't open everything to the wind (so to speak). Post-2-weekers then still have a taste of this or that and we know some of them will get addicted to one model or another (we also know that they probably won't like some models). So ... for a week they can up P-51Ds without an active account. Next week they get P-40Bs. That P-51D won't likely make the free rotation very often.
Having said that, I have no idea (as usual) how easy that would be to implement on HT's part. I know how I'd market the poop out of it on STEAM, though.
(https://i.imgur.com/Pzf19Xq.png)
(And I'd still recommend C-47s and Jeeps as always free.)
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I gave up being a forum warrior years ago, but ...
It's not a question of opinion, it's a fact. Fighting vs a few planes gets boring pretty fast because everything feels stale.
The concept of boring is not a fact.
Is there an index of boring? Is there a nugetx boring scale that can be accurately and repeatedly measured? Is there a national boring center that can forecast major boring events, so folks can evacuate? (I went through Harvey in Houston, forgive that last one.)
Looking past the sarcasm, one person's boring is another person's preference.
The game in it's current incarnation is just fine. The target market seems to be fading. As a crusty old pilot, I would not want to see the grind or pay to upgrade or ten minute matches with air launch or whatever. That is my opinion.
No, paying $14.95 a month is a restriction and the two-weeker-squeakers are not going for it.
We need targets. If giving away the Spit V for free (or something like that) drives numbers and retention then it will increase subscriptions over time. It would certainly stop/reduce the bleeding. Bored people leave.
Two weeks is barely enough time to figure out what is going on in this game for the non-initiated.
$14.95 per month is a business model. If folks are do not value the game experience at that price point, then the game will fade.
I am not a proponent of the "clubbing baby seals" school. But, that was the forum warrior of old. To each his own.
I do agree (one for three points) that there is a steep learning curve. I have recently talked a colleague of mine into signing up. He is a Metallurgical and Materials Engineer and a long time gamer. He is a smart, motivated guy, and he is happy to be at a 0.30 K/D after a month. We who have been flying for years take for granted stuff like head position, convergence, dot commands, stall limiters (or not,) dice bombing, calibration, steering a set of buffs in external mode with rudders, the list goes on.
Sorry if this post got too boring. :banana: :banana: :banana:
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$14.95 per month is a business model. If folks are do not value the game experience at that price point, then the game will fade.
Then you change the business model. People like me will still pay the $14.95...... Then you will add noobs who stick around with the limited plane set....some of whom will upgrade to the $14.95 like I did....and as more and more minnows swim around we will see old sharks return to feast.
The other option is for the game to fade (your words not mine).
Times change. Things change. It's worth a try to see what happens. If it doesn't work then you just go back to where you were before.
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Here's a thought. A rotating 'free plane of the week.' No, wait .... think about it. It doesn't open everything to the wind (so to speak). Post-2-weekers then still have a taste of this or that and we know some of them will get addicted to one model or another (we also know that they probably won't like some models). So ... for a week they can up P-51Ds without an active account. Next week they get P-40Bs. That P-51D won't likely make the free rotation very often.
Having said that, I have no idea (as usual) how easy that would be to implement on HT's part. I know how I'd market the poop out of it on STEAM, though.
(https://i.imgur.com/Pzf19Xq.png)
(And I'd still recommend C-47s and Jeeps as always free.)
Good idea. Or PLANE OF THE MONTH or something like that.
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I gave up being a forum warrior years ago, but ...
The concept of boring is not a fact.
If something is stale, it gets boring eventualy, and if you constantly fight vs same few planes you get bored because there is no diversity.
No diversity = boring
Diversity = fun
There are about 50 planes in Aces High, people use 5-10 mainly. That is 40 planes underused.
Is there an index of boring? Is there a nugetx boring scale that can be accurately and repeatedly measured?
Actualy there is, take planes in tier as a rough estimate, i didn't take much time deciding which should go where.
(http://i.imgur.com/rcynKSv.jpg)
Is there a national boring center that can forecast major boring events, so folks can evacuate? (I went through Harvey in Houston, forgive that last one.)
None to my knowledge, although there is the boring company
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8420415/tunnel_boring_company_borer.jpg)
The game in it's current incarnation is just fine. The target market seems to be fading.
Because people today want more realism in the ww2 flight sim and not 'fantasy'
I would not want to see the grind or pay to upgrade
In Aces High it would not be a grind, you can take on any plane in any plane, everything is viable, and others would be flying the same lower planes while gaining points for a better ride.
I don't see a problem with pay to upgrade.
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It's not a question of opinion, it's a fact. Fighting vs a few planes gets boring pretty fast because everything feels stale.
The solution is for you to fly a different aircraft, not for everyone else to change. Forcing diversity as an end in itself is just silliness.
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(http://i.imgur.com/rcynKSv.jpg)
The F4U series is a laugh riot in that particular pyramid.
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The F4U series is a laugh riot in that particular pyramid.
I said to take planes as a rough estimate of where they should be because i didn't spend much time on this.
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The solution is for you to fly a different aircraft, not for everyone else to change. Forcing diversity as an end in itself is just silliness.
It's not about what plane are *you* flying, but what about you see on the arena.
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....and as more and more minnows swim around we will see old sharks return to feast.
In a personal opinion, the "sharks" were ruining the game. I am saddened to see some of the old names returning.
Actualy there is, take planes in tier as a rough estimate, i didn't take much time deciding which should go where.
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None to my knowledge, although there is the boring company
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I disagree with almost everything you post, but I must salute your enthusiasm, persistence and humor. :salute
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I said to take planes as a rough estimate of where they should be because i didn't spend much time on this.
By much do you mean any? Or are you just talking bout BBS time?
Here's a hint on the F4U foodchain:
F4U4
F4U1C
F4U1A
F4U1
F4U1D (reverse order of 1D and 1A when considering attack)
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By much do you mean any? Or are you just talking bout BBS time?
If I took time to make that pyramid, naturaly there had to be time involved.
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I said to take planes as a rough estimate of where they should be because i didn't spend much time on this.
There it is.
It's not about what plane are *you* flying, but what about you see on the arena.
No it's about what nugetx sees. If you want people to see planes they aren't seeing then you should fly one. That's how it works. Forget engineering your preferences on the arena, you haven't got the knowledge or experience to make good choices for other people.
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If I took time to make that pyramid, naturaly there had to be time involved.
My kids could spend all day 'making things.' The real issue is time in AH. :)
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you can take on any plane in any plane
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No it's about what nugetx sees.
So you are seeing people flying i16's and p40's in majority? Pls make a video.
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You can even take down a 262 in i16 if you jump on him from high altitude when he is climbing, so yes, all planes are viable and that is why they should be used.
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So you are seeing people flying i16's and p40's in majority? Pls make a video.
It doesn't matter what I see because I don't accept your premise. You don't have an argument. You have your preference which you keep reminding us of. You want someone to see a P-40? Fly a P-40.
Lead from the front. Have fun. :aok
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You can even take down a 262 in i16 if you jump on him from high altitude when he is climbing, so yes, all planes are viable and that is why they should be used.
Yeah cos that's what 262 pilots do. They roll a perk plane and climb slowly in a combat zone with better turning aircraft above them. You're once again trying to draw inferences from a premise of pure fantasy.
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What a steamer
Fresh steamer on the lawn..
Stinking up the place
Steaming troll poo
Uck
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Yeah cos that's what 262 pilots do. They roll a perk plane and climb slowly in a combat zone with better turning aircraft above them.
That's my strategy, it doesn't seem to be working for me though.
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So you are seeing people flying i16's and p40's in majority? Pls make a video.
You don't see these often because they're cack. Force people to fly this sort of thing for most of the time and you'll be flying around by yourself in an empty arena.
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Must be nice being able to play on weekday mornings...In about 20 years my weekday mornings will be free :rock
Fake News I checked it out on snoop!!!'s but back on Topic yes the morning hours are always tough but that is what made it more fun and challenging when I played with the coffee club
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You don't see these often because they're cack..
It's never the plane, it's always the pilot :old:
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Because people today want more realism in the ww2 flight sim and not 'fantasy'
Then perhaps you should abandon the notion that players should be forced to work their way up the aeroplane food chain. There is nothing at all realistic or historic about matching I-16s against Tempests. Your plan would still have them flying in the same arena at the same time.
The only way to make early- and mid-war airplane combat "realistic" is to place those planes in arenas which exclude planes from other historical time frames. We had this for several years, with Early War, Mid-War and Late-War arenas. Over time, players moved to the Late War arena, and the other two wasted away. This preference is not something that you can change, or that would be wise to change.
- oldman (who can't believe that he's fallen victim to the troll)
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Then perhaps you should abandon the notion that players should be forced to work their way up the aeroplane food chain. There is nothing at all realistic or historic about matching I-16s against Tempests. Your plan would still have them flying in the same arena at the same time.
The only way to make early- and mid-war airplane combat "realistic" is to place those planes in arenas which exclude planes from other historical time frames. We had this for several years, with Early War, Mid-War and Late-War arenas. Over time, players moved to the Late War arena, and the other two wasted away. This preference is not something that you can change, or that would be wise to change.
- oldman (who can't believe that he's fallen victim to the troll)
They wasted away because the map in EW and MW were incredibly too big and bases too far, if you have 8-30 players in a room, a very smaller but exciting map will go a long way to boost action. 5 bases on each side inside a 2-6 square radius. The EW MW planes would be a lot of fun with that.
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I'm sorry guys if I had any idea nugetx was gonna jump my thread and stuff, I never would have opened it.
NUGETX WHAT YOUR POSTING HAS NOTHING WHAT SO EVER TO DO WITH WHAT I POSTED ABOUT. SO LEAVE NOW AND DO NOT POST ANY MORE OF YOU R DUMB IDEAS..
I ask hitech or Skuzzy to lock this thread please.
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It's never the plane, it's always the pilot :old:
So you want to change the plane usage? You're just annoying now.
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So you want to change the plane usage? You're just annoying now.
I thought that it is obvious from the start that the point of perking planes is to have all planes used by all the players.
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I'm sorry guys if I had any idea nugetx was gonna jump my thread and stuff, I never would have opened it.
NUGETX WHAT YOUR POSTING HAS NOTHING WHAT SO EVER TO DO WITH WHAT I POSTED ABOUT. SO LEAVE NOW AND DO NOT POST ANY MORE OF YOU R DUMB IDEAS..
I ask hitech or Skuzzy to lock this thread please.
NAH! Lunatic, your just CRAZY! We all know that, all good Brother :rock Could Nugetx be an EX wife or girlfriend? Just saying, sort of busting your chops like one :ahand
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I thought that it is obvious from the start that the point of perking planes is to have all planes used by all the players.
That's actually never been the point (it may be a side-effect). The point, as backed up by management, has been to encourage side balance.
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It's never the plane, it's always the pilot :old:
You must be wet behind the ears to really believe that. If that was the case no nation would have poured huge resources into replacing their aircraft. The Americans would have just better trained their Wildcat pilots instead of developing the Helllcat. For example. What a steaming pile of Hotspur.
It is a symbiotic combination of person and machine (virtual or otherwise). Ayrton Senna would not have outqualified anyone at Monarco driving a Fiat 500. Think it through noob! :old:
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That's actually never been the point (it may be a side-effect). The point, as backed up by management, has been to encourage side balance.
Side balance would be 2 sides, so it's not 38 vs 12 vs 18 but 35 vs 35.
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Side balance would be 2 sides, so it's not 38 vs 12 vs 18 but 35 vs 35.
You don't understand a 3-bladed prop, do you? :D
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You must be wet behind the ears to really believe that. If that was the case no nation would have poured huge resources into replacing their aircraft. The Americans would have just better trained their Wildcat pilots instead of developing the Helllcat. For example. What a steaming pile of Hotspur.
It is a symbiotic combination of person and machine (virtual or otherwise). Ayrton Senna would not have outqualified anyone at Monarco driving a Fiat 500. Think it through noob! :old:
Sure in real life, but this is a game.
You can dive your i16 from 20,000 feet crash into the ground and not worry about anything, I doubt you would do that in real life.
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You don't understand a 3-bladed prop, do you? :D
I'm a 2-blade prop guy myself ;)
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I'm a 2-blade prop guy myself ;)
Obviously. WWI arena is free.
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Sure in real life, but this is a game.
You can dive your i16 from 20,000 feet crash into the ground and not worry about anything,
Totally irrelevant non-sequitur. And I think you know this:-
Think about how fun it is to fight a 262 in a spit 1 for the pilot in spit 1.
This statement implies YOU think fun emerges from a more even match of planes, YOU have recently been campaigning to perk planes by generation and yet now YOU are stating any plane can be taken on in any plane. You even contradict yourself. Again.
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This statement implies YOU think fun emerges from a more even match of planes, YOU have recently been campaigning to perk planes by generation and yet now YOU are stating any plane can be taken on in any plane. You even contradict yourself. Again.
You can fight any plane in any plane, given the circumstances. In general a 262 pilot will find himself in an advantage over a spit 1 pilot BUT there will be times when a spit 1 pilot will find himself in an advantage over a 262 and he will shot down a 262.
A more even match of planes, gives everyone a fair chance and at the same time, makes the use of all planes.
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Come off it Nuget, now you're resorting to a moving goalpost argument.
Getting lucky against a a cack pilot in a better plane doesn't make your point for you. There is no finer subtlety that let's you wriggle out of this one. I have you, like a maggot, wriggling howwibly on a hook. Howwibly.
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Come off it Nuget, now you're resorting to a moving goalpost argument.
Getting lucky against a a cack pilot in a better plane doesn't make your point for you. There is no finer subtlety that let's you wriggle out of this one. I have you, like a maggot, wriggling howwibly on a hook. Howwibly.
That's why perks come in, you don't see everyone flying a 262 because that's the point, in general a 262 would have an advantage over other planes.
A p51d or 190d in general have an advantage over an i16 or spit 1 and it is free, and those few times an i16 finds itself in advantage and can take a few pot shots but it doesn't mean it has advantage all the time, but yes you can still fight a p51 in a i16, you just cannot do that effectively as you would in a 190d9.
That's why no one flies 'a cack' plane, because they know they have no chance vs late war planes which *dominate* the MA. However if everyone was on a cack plane and there was less of 'late war monsters' it would be like a situation of current late war planes vs 262 like it is on arena.
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I'm sorry to say this Nuget, but I think your evaluations tend to show a profound inexperience. It's all rather surface and assumption-based.
You don't really factor in the human element or are able to seperate correlation and causation. Some of your scenarios are just contrived from the extremes and never really happen: "If nrshida found himself in a Lion cage, with a lamb chop tied around his neck...".
Like I said before it's really no fun and there's really no point discussing things with you. You KNOW you're right, seems to be your baseline. If the game is changed in the style you suggest, I for one will stop playing. But you don't seem to care to hear those sort of things because it doesn't fit your narrative.
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If the game is changed in the style you suggest, I for one will stop playing.
Why would you stop playing a game that balances player numbers and makes effective use of all planes in arena?
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Why would you stop playing a game that balances player numbers and makes effective use of all planes in arena?
I wouldn't. I'd stop playing a game that forced me out of my favourite planes.
Do you want to discuss the balance of me turning on the deck with three opponents? Bet not.
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I'd stop playing a game that forced me out of my favourite planes.
So is it better to sacrifice the whole game so some people can fly 1 plane all the time ?
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stop sniffing the troll poo
:noid
its stinky
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So is it better to sacrifice the whole game so some people can fly 1 plane all the time ?
You cannot draw that conclusion from that premise. You're just talking out the top of your hat. Not for much longer though I think :D
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well see this my thread so you move along shirley
Nope... I made it a shared thread, so YOU move along. And don't call me surely!
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OBX is one of my favorite players to sneak up on. He's merrily typing away and then ...........................
:banana:Whammo!
..........tower.
Heehee
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If David Wales and Midway hand a LOVE CHILD...his name would be________________________ :neener: :cheers: :bolt:
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It doesn't matter what I see because I don't accept your premise. You don't have an argument. You have your preference which you keep reminding us of. You want someone to see a P-40? Fly a P-40.
Lead from the front. Have fun. :aok
This. I've shown up at big fur ball fights in planes like the Wildcat, hurricane 1, I-16, and P-40. When I get shot down and return, guess what I often see coming up to meet me? I see an early war plane or two. Players saw me in the old plane and said, "hey, that looks like fun, I'll try that."
Nug, just fly what you want. It's very rewarding to shoot down a 51d with rifle caliber machine guns.
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NAH! Lunatic, your just CRAZY! We all know that, all good Brother :rock Could Nugetx be an EX wife or girlfriend? Just saying, sort of busting your chops like one :ahand
nah I just dislike hard headed people-this guy has been told at least 50 times in all his post no to all his ideas, and he keeps it now hijacking peoples threads, that what I posted about in no way shape or form is asking for any of his silly ideas.
and he just freakin keeps it up.
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See Rule #4