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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: 1ijac on October 04, 2017, 02:27:27 PM
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Is there any way we can watch a film while still in the game? I have tried Alt+Tab ing out of the game to watch a film, but I have always had to exit the game completely before I can watch the film. Maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I'm not, it would be nice to have that ability.
one-eye
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Unlikely to happen. It's so people can't have 10,000 yard awareness of enemy locations in real time.
Wiley.
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The film viewer uses game resources. They can't run concurrently.
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The film viewer uses game resources. They can't run concurrently.
They use to be able to, but too many people were using it to locate players trying to hide, GVs, goons and such. HTC set it up so you can no longer do that.
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They use to be able to, but too many people were using it to locate players trying to hide, GVs, goons and such. HTC set it up so you can no longer do that.
Yep. There would be those that would do this almost immediately once implemented.
Murphy's Law.
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We purposely made an addition so that the film view can not run at the same time as the game. We even had to add a lock out from other computers trying to load films that were just made with the game.
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Wow, devious minds out there.
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They use to be able to, but too many people were using it to locate players trying to hide, GVs, goons and such. HTC set it up so you can no longer do that.
As far as I can tell people are still doing this, not that it's a good thing mind you, but there have been a few times since I've been back where several players, including me are looking for a GV we know is out there and are having a real hard time spotting it and somebody pipes up saying "well if we don't find it soon, I'm just going to go look at the film." I find this behavior gamey and lame. I personally love the new GV game, both hiding and trying to locate them. It makes the storch very useful.
Keep this up and HT is going to have to put 24HR hold on the films just so these guys actually have to play the game the way it's designed.
:salute all.
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As far as I can tell people are still doing this, not that it's a good thing mind you, but there have been a few times since I've been back where several players, including me are looking for a GV we know is out there and are having a real hard time spotting it and somebody pipes up saying "well if we don't find it soon, I'm just going to go look at the film." I find this behavior gamey and lame. I personally love the new GV game, both hiding and trying to locate them. It makes the storch very useful.
Keep this up and HT is going to have to put 24HR hold on the films just so these guys actually have to play the game the way it's designed.
:salute all.
Based on what hitech said.. there is a delay in being able to view a recently created film. Its too bad we even need to take precautions like this..
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"well if we don't find it soon, I'm just going to go look at the film." I find this behavior gamey and lame.
It's also "gamey & lame" to park a vehicle in a remote spot just to make a base or factory flash for hours. Even worse with planes, which can sit anywhere in a 500 sq.miles area for the same effect.
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It's also "gamey & lame" to park a vehicle in a remote spot just to make a base or factory flash for hours. Even worse with planes, which can sit anywhere in a 500 sq.miles area for the same effect.
:aok
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It's also "gamey & lame" to park a vehicle in a remote spot just to make a base or factory flash for hours. Even worse with planes, which can sit anywhere in a 500 sq.miles area for the same effect.
A couple weeks ago I saw one of our strats flashing due to a GV and figured I'd go take a run at killing it. I spent a full tank of gas searching for him and returned home frustrated as hell. Just for curiosity's sake I logged out to watch the video. I flew right over him a couple times but never saw him. He was sitting under one of those large canopy trees. I never bothered with a return trip, just left him to sit under his tree and feel special and went to find something fun to do.
Gamey and lame? Yup. Need to be fixed? I'm not really sure, and if it does, how one would go about it. Maybe the thing to do would be the longer you're within radar range of a base flashing it, the more refined the flashing gets? So it starts out after an amount of time, half the circle is flashing, then 1/4, then 1/8, then 1/16th?
Have it reset only if you go outside plane warning distance or if you .ef so a player can't just sit there at the flash range boundary popping in and out to reset it?
Wow, devious minds out there.
Yup.
If you notice when you sit under trees, you will lose airplane icons when they get close to the trees above you in your field of view. You can still see the actual plane, but no icon. It works the same the other way. If you find an extremely dense tree canopy and hide under it, the ability for a plane and even a storch to locate you with your engine off becomes very difficult. Sometimes they may get an icon at a certain angle and sometimes not. I have been just above treetop level in a storch and flew right over the engine off gv and couldn't see him under the tree canopy. I have had to resort to filming, checking the film to find the gv at times.
Wiley.
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Wow, devious minds out there.
You are surprised? You yourself do this, based on your comment in my thread: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,389194.0.html
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Being devious is part of the fun. But you can be devious without cheating.
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You are surprised? You yourself do this, based on your comment in my thread: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,389194.0.html
BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl
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"well if we don't find it soon, I'm just going to go look at the film." I find this behavior gamey and lame.
:salute all.
Well it is a flight sim of WWII plus there were aircraft that did film things during the war and based off those films.
They got blown up.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/6ztvz8.jpg)
Same thing happened in WWI
(https://i.imgur.com/vm8Qor1.jpg)
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Well it is a flight sim of WWII plus there were aircraft that did film things during the war and based off those films.
They got blown up.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/6ztvz8.jpg)
Same thing happened in WWI
(https://i.imgur.com/vm8Qor1.jpg)
Kind of a stretch there..
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Well it is a flight sim of WWII plus there were aircraft that did film things during the war and based off those films.
They got blown up.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/6ztvz8.jpg)
Same thing happened in WWI
(https://i.imgur.com/vm8Qor1.jpg)
In WW2, photo reconnaissance didn't yield near-real-time target information to enemy vehicle locations, which is what we're talking about in-game.
MH.
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Kind of a stretch there..
They have used film viewer in scenarios and even permitted camera recon skins into game as well.
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They have used film viewer in scenarios and even permitted camera recon skins into game as well.
Read TDeadcons reply above.
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Wow, devious minds out there.
Either way.. you're a little contradictory..
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Read TDeadcons reply above.
Maybe so.
However when someone sits in a hanger next to an overlapping base just to make it flash for hours.
A Cybro special is needed. :aok
(https://i.imgur.com/UiVZ3C5.png)
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How about this: if you sit stationary on the ground for more than 30 minutes, you get "discovered by a farmer" and are captured? A downside I see immediately would be M3s with troops waiting for the town to be prepped... sorry, I mean an SK 251.
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I always find the guys who make bases flash and I don't review films to find them.
Guys who want to extinguish the flashing base with very little investment in time or patience are missing the point and the reward of beating a challenge.
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I always find the guys who make bases flash and I don't review films to find them.
Guys who want to extinguish the flashing base with very little investment in time or patience are missing the point and the reward of beating a challenge.
Well said Sir, well said. :aok
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very little investment in time or patience
This is the problem with getting the most out of this style, or genre of game. "It takes to long."
Oh, ye of little patience.
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Oh, ye of little patience.
Then go ahead and show me your patience by finding a plane, hidden under trees so that the icon won't show, in a 500 square mile area. :)
The last guy I found that way almost two weeks ago, parked his plane in rugged terrain many miles away from a factory, in a clutter of trees. Several of us tried to find out what made the factory flash for a long time, as this constant flashing opened a venue for undetected NOE attacks. Vehicles could be ruled out at that time. He could have been anywhere.
Even when I finally resorted to the film method, it took me an additional half an hour to finally locate that guy in the game because of his distance to the factory and the terrain he was in. At that point he already had won, tying up something like 3 manhours or more of enemy resources.
Yeah, we of little patience, using cheap ways to counter those noble afk warriors... :old:
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Then go ahead and show me your patience by finding a plane, hidden under trees so that the icon won't show, in a 500 square mile area. :)
The last guy I found that way almost two weeks ago, parked his plane in rugged terrain many miles away from a factory, in a clutter of trees. Several of us tried to find out what made the factory flash for a long time, as this constant flashing opened a venue for undetected NOE attacks. Vehicles could be ruled out at that time. He could have been anywhere.
Even when I finally resorted to the film method, it took me an additional half an hour to finally locate that guy in the game because of his distance to the factory and the terrain he was in. At that point he already had won, tying up something like 3 manhours or more of enemy resources.
Yeah, we of little patience, using cheap ways to counter those noble afk warriors... :old:
I agree completely Lusche.
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Then go ahead and show me your patience by finding a plane, hidden under trees so that the icon won't show, in a 500 square mile area. :)
The last guy I found that way almost two weeks ago, parked his plane in rugged terrain many miles away from a factory, in a clutter of trees. Several of us tried to find out what made the factory flash for a long time, as this constant flashing opened a venue for undetected NOE attacks. Vehicles could be ruled out at that time. He could have been anywhere.
Even when I finally resorted to the film method, it took me an additional half an hour to finally locate that guy in the game because of his distance to the factory and the terrain he was in. At that point he already had won, tying up something like 3 manhours or more of enemy resources.
Yeah, we of little patience, using cheap ways to counter those noble afk warriors... :old:
Now this particular instance I can understand. This is the other end of the gamey remark I made earlier and I am not apposed to some kind of middle ground. Maybe some sort of AFK timer so after X time without moving your icon starts to show as if some local had spotted you. Though this does have issues, if you set the time to low then times like I had the other day with another guy in LVT's when the base take had gone south, there was a chance to still snag the base and it was great fun running from one group of trees to another and shutting down, firing at town and then going silent as the cons flew over to attack the base next door. or try to find out why a building just exploded. They did eventually spot me but there were times when I had to sit still and not fire for quite a while.
With a goon waiting for the field and town to be prepped I can see this "You have been spotted timer" being even more problematic as you don't usually move at all while you wait and there have been times I've waited a long time indeed for conditions to be right and it's worse now with low #'s, just trying to get the few players involved in taking a base to do the things necessary can take a bit of time.
So thinking about it and making use of Lyrics justifications. How about Hitech add a few photo recon variants and a film lab on base tied to these planes like ord is to bombers. You take your recon plane up, make your pass or passes in your camera position like buffs have to do in the bomb sight and go land. If X player is spotted in a frame when the film is "reviewed on successful landing", his Icon is then visible to your country on the map as a last known position marker. Stationary red plane or tank or for that matter CV marker that will stay until either player is killed, bails or a new photo is successfully submitted to base.
I think this might be a good compromise between the retarded AFK warrior (I view this tactic as gamey as well) and the instant I know where you are film viewer tactic. It will take a lil time to take the photos and get back down with them safely for submission and if the other team is serious about protecting the location of their forces then they will take out the photo shed, at least on the base they are trying to take. This however does not stop one from taking a recon plane from any other base that is operational, just like bombers or GV's. This recon plane could also be instrumental in base attacks when trying to locate those pesky last few GV defenders, though obviously not in all situations if base distance is to far to get your pic and land in a reasonable time, your recon might be to late to do any good but that would be much like real life ehh :) .
Anyway just this mornings thoughts on the subject and the more I think about it the more I would love to take out my beautiful AR-234's on a recon flight. So many times I find it as much fun helping my chosen country with spotting for guys in the storch and really getting no other reward, as it is to get kills. Granted the photo recon option might not be for everyone but everyone would have the option. Maybe a small bomber perk reward could be given upon successful delivery of film with an enemy location. The more enemy spotted the more perk? I don't know, I'm just throwing out ideas to try and address the problem from both GV'r who really enjoys the cat and mouse game that AH3 provides, and country defender, destroyer of all gamey AFK warriors. :)
I hope this idea meets both sides somewhere in the middle. Besides it's always nice to have things added to this wonderful game. So please don't burn me guys I'm trying to figure this out from both sides. :headscratch:
<S> all please discuss. :)
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Not to knock your idea, Flayed1, because I actually like it. Just wondering how much more frustrating it would be if someone overflew a hidden GV/plane with a recon bird, then when the overflying bird is clear, the GV moves while the plane is landing and the "film" is being processed. Now someone goes out to kill the pesky GV and it ain't where the film said it was. Seems like that could be equally maddening.
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Why do you need films, when you can have realtime information from a 2nd (and 3rd) account? Even GVs showing on the map these days.
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Why do you need films, when you can have realtime information from a 2nd (and 3rd) account? Even GVs showing on the map these days.
Because I don't have a second account. Using 2nd accounts for 'intelligence' wouldn't be much fun for me anyway. :)
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I've found a plane that crashed in a ravine with nothing left but the fuselage.
All planes have a certain reflection that behaves and looks slightly different from any other reflection but I do understand that today's gamer needs an arrow to find them.
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Maybe some people don't have the graphics/video/monitor combination to see much detail on the ground...