General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Oldman731 on October 06, 2017, 05:34:58 PM
Title: TIA
Post by: Oldman731 on October 06, 2017, 05:34:58 PM
Stands for "transient ischemic attack." No, it has nothing to do with M3s. It's sort of a mini-stroke, without the damage.
A most peculiar feeling. I was typing on my work computer when, suddenly, I could no longer spell correctly. A word like "care" came out "carecarelescare." Attempts to rephrase were unsuccessful - I couldn't think of an alternative.
So I got up to tell the guy whose work I was editing that I wouldn't be able to help. But the words came out funny. If I meant to say "Hey, I can't help," what came out was "Argh, my feet green." Finally I gave up, went back to my office. I thought perhaps that I was having a stroke, but I was able to raise my arms and smile, and couldn't remember the other two or three tests.
After perhaps 30 minutes it went away. Finally went to the hospital, which kept me for a night and day and diagnosed the above. I'm fine, except I'm in a special class now (hey, I heard that!), and, most regrettably, I can't fly for two years.
I do not recommend this experience.
- oldman
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: Zoney on October 06, 2017, 05:54:26 PM
Take care of yourself man, make sure what you are doing is helping you get better.
I have exactly this same condition but it is a different name, mine is called "Stoned".
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Post by: Easyscor on October 06, 2017, 06:02:26 PM
2001 for me and slightly different. Couldn't speak and vision was an in and out blur. I was still able to make a hand written note on what was happening and drove myself to the hospital! NOT a good idea, I nearly ran into people and got lost before finding it by luck alone. I never want to go through that again. Take the meds they prescribe (regular aspirin for me).
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Post by: Hajo on October 06, 2017, 06:19:39 PM
Take care of yourselves gentlemen. Your health is what is most important.
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Post by: Puma44 on October 06, 2017, 06:26:53 PM
Wow! Sorry to hear of that gents. Take care and be well soon.
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Post by: SIK1 on October 06, 2017, 06:49:55 PM
Glad your ok Oldman. Take care of yourself, and follow the docs orders.
When you say you can't fly for two years do you mean for real or in AH? If the latter you will surely be missed.
:salute Sik
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Post by: Kanth on October 06, 2017, 07:37:25 PM
yep oldman that sounds pretty scary. please take care of yourself. Glad you went to the hospital, always the right thing to do. :cheers:
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Post by: NatCigg on October 06, 2017, 07:45:46 PM
glad to hear you and your doctor are better informed. I have been close to a few medical abnormalities lately. One guy had a pulmonary embolism that stopped him cold. another was a heart attack that was noticed by a drunken like stupor. in both instances it was the fast action of those nearby, first responders, and those at the hospital that saved their life. Thankfully the situations did not turn out another way. If nobody was around both would have been tragic. In another situation a lady is in the health system tracking a blood abnormality and is being referred to specialists to better understand her condition.
The knowledge if the medical community is impressive and growing.
how these bodies of ours go on for years is even more impressive. The complexity, fragility, and downright determination of life is amazing.
:salute
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: Tumor on October 07, 2017, 02:30:42 AM
Hey Oldman
My Grandad (91, already had/has Dementia) started having those about 6 years ago. He had one about every 6mo give or take. First time he went to Hosp by ambulance. After that, we took him to the hospital 2 or 3 times, then didn't any more. They advised us to go through the stroke tests and observe him for about 30min, then bring him in if he didn't come out of it. We did that until he had one that put him on the floor, like out cold. I was sure that one was a full on stroke but sure enough, TIA (and another ambulance). We've never been advised of ~anything~ preventative he could do or we could do for him, and he's not ever been given any medication for it. The last one was on Christmas Day 2015, so it seems to have stopped at least for now.
I can't offer anything other than a sincere "be very careful". I haven't a clue if having just one can be an indicator of future problems, but from what I've observed, they do vary in intensity and symptoms.
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: Zimme83 on October 07, 2017, 03:26:25 AM
I have worked on a stroke unit since 2011 and I would say that the most important thing to do in this cases when someone is having a TIA for the first time is to minimize the risk of a future stroke, a TIA is a very strong warning sign, without treatment around 20% is having a stroke within 6 months.
We are for ex looking for atrial fibrillation, often the episodes are very short and most people doesnt notice them at all so we are monitoring the heart rhythm for at least 24 hours but it could be up to 72 hours, We also check them for carotid artery stenosis. Both of these conditions increases the risk of having a stroke significantly so finding them in time is vital. With proper treatment the risk of a stroke can be reduced to less than 2%.
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Post by: zack1234 on October 07, 2017, 03:27:12 AM
Type on 200 :old:
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Post by: Mister Fork on October 07, 2017, 07:55:38 AM
Holy sheit Oldman. Glad you’re ok. Any idea what brings on a TIA?
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Post by: morfiend on October 07, 2017, 08:27:13 AM
Sorry to hear this OM! Take care and get well soon,this place wouldnt be the same without you!!!
:salute
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Post by: Serenity on October 07, 2017, 10:49:42 AM
Glad you made it out the other end!
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Post by: RSLQK186 on October 07, 2017, 10:59:48 AM
Holy sheit Oldman. Glad you’re ok. Any idea what brings on a TIA?
To answer your question I submit: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/transient-ischemic-attack/symptoms-causes/dxc-20314622
I was driving when I got a sudden terrible headache. Slurred speech was noticed by my son. I pulled into a rural convenience store and he bought water so I could chew and swallow aspirin.
He drove the next 20 miles to our rural hospital. They hydrated me and EMTs took me the big town hospital in case I needed a clot buster. By then I was feeling much better. Dye injection/MRI and microscopic noodle camera found nothing. The ghost was gone.
I have several precursors mentioned in the link above, but dehydration and the venal constriction that comes with it was the tipping point although I didn't see it in the list of causes. Guess it falls under nutrition.
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: ghi on October 08, 2017, 12:17:42 AM
Good to hear you are ok. I came across this terms "type A,B personality" today, my English is not very good, so i googled it to see what's about and come across this interesting,explanation; "Type A and Type B personality theory describes two contrasting personality types. In this theory, personalities that are more competitive, outgoing, ambitious, impatient and/or aggressive are labeled Type A, while more relaxed personalities are labeled Type B. The two cardiologists who developed this theory came to believe that Type A personalities had a greater chance of developing coronary heart disease." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_A_and_Type_B_personality_theory
I believe in plant based diet. I linked a video here when Dr. Ellsworth Wareham was 98 years old ; 103 yo in oct 3rd, still going strong, watch his interviews , this guy was heart surgeon for over 50 years until was 95 yo, sure knows why got into vegan diet.
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: oboe on October 08, 2017, 06:28:11 AM
Sorry to hear this - I imagine that's a pretty scary episode. Take care of yourself Oldman, you're irreplaceable!
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Post by: Delirium on October 08, 2017, 08:05:39 AM
I have worked on a stroke unit since 2011 and I would say that the most important thing to do in this cases when someone is having a TIA for the first time is to minimize the risk of a future stroke, a TIA is a very strong warning sign, without treatment around 20% is having a stroke within 6 months.
We are for ex looking for atrial fibrillation, often the episodes are very short and most people doesnt notice them at all so we are monitoring the heart rhythm for at least 24 hours but it could be up to 72 hours, We also check them for carotid artery stenosis. Both of these conditions increases the risk of having a stroke significantly so finding them in time is vital. With proper treatment the risk of a stroke can be reduced to less than 2%.
This.
I have seen a lot of people die from ignoring TIAs when it should be a red flag to be more aggressive in preventing further episodes including future CVAs.
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: ROC on October 08, 2017, 07:26:50 PM
You take care Sir. We are getting older, and are bodies are reminding us of this daily.
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Post by: DaddyAce on October 08, 2017, 08:15:58 PM
OM I know you're a sharp guy and expect you'll figure out how to reduce your future risk. Take good care young man!
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Post by: icepac on October 08, 2017, 09:09:20 PM
Thanks for relating what you remember and thanks for recovering.
It's so rare anybody remembers anything.
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Post by: nooby52 on October 09, 2017, 06:48:15 AM
Take care Oldman. Easyscor, glad to see you're still with us, too, after what happened to you. :salute to both
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Post by: Ramesis on October 09, 2017, 12:27:20 PM
You take care Sir. We are getting older, and are bodies are reminding us of this daily.
How true, how true ROC In early 2007 I had 2 strokes in within 1 week. Turns out that when I forgot how to pull back the bed and then walked to the fridge for some unknown reason and later I was told it was a TIA. Later that night I got up to use the bathroom and as I was standing over the commode, the first stroke hit. I managed to call my wife but then I couldn't speak or move. My wife took me to the hospital where the 2nd stroke hit 2 days later and a heart attack a day after that. Spent a week or so at a local hospital and then transfered to U.A.B in B'ham where I spent another couple of weeks. After U.A.B., I spent 2 weeks in in in pat rehab and then another 3 weeks in out pat rehab. The good news is, after so much time in the hospitals and rehab had quit smoking without realizing it :D Needless to say, I don't recommend TIAs and strokes as methods for quitting smoking but it goes to show that every cloud has a silver lining :aok
GL OM... I know what ur going through
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: Mister Fork on October 10, 2017, 09:18:02 AM
How true, how true ROC In early 2007 I had 2 strokes in within 1 week. Turns out that when I forgot how to pull back the bed and then walked to the fridge for some unknown reason and later I was told it was a TIA. Later that night I got up to use the bathroom and as I was standing over the commode, the first stroke hit. I managed to call my wife but then I couldn't speak or move. My wife took me to the hospital where the 2nd stroke hit 2 days later and a heart attack a day after that. Spent a week or so at a local hospital and then transfered to U.A.B in B'ham where I spent another couple of weeks. After U.A.B., I spent 2 weeks in in in pat rehab and then another 3 weeks in out pat rehab. The good news is, after so much time in the hospitals and rehab had quit smoking without realizing it :D Needless to say, I don't recommend TIAs and strokes as methods for quitting smoking but it goes to show that every cloud has a silver lining :aok
GL OM... I know what ur going through
Jebus. And I thought getting a new hip was a big deal. Glad you're better too Ramesis.
Yep, new hip needed by the Forkster. Doc thinks it was my military service - I wasn't always in optimal shape for some of my 'activities' - and I didn't really get into good shape until my mid-20's. Paying for it now.
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: ROC on October 10, 2017, 12:18:33 PM
I remember you going through that Ramesis. It's odd, knowing some of you so long, watching us all go through life and being there, at least pixelly (made that up). I remember when you came back for one of your firsts flights after your recovery, winging with us in a scenario.
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: Ramesis on October 10, 2017, 02:49:11 PM
I remember you going through that Ramesis. It's odd, knowing some of you so long, watching us all go through life and being there, at least pixelly (made that up). I remember when you came back for one of your firsts flights after your recovery, winging with us in a scenario.
Oh well ROC... stuff happens I didn't mean to steal OM's thunder... I just wanted to let him and others know what can happen when you ignore the symtoms of stroke :salute
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: Ramesis on October 10, 2017, 02:51:55 PM
Jebus. And I thought getting a new hip was a big deal. Glad you're better too Ramesis.
Yep, new hip needed by the Forkster. Doc thinks it was my military service - I wasn't always in optimal shape for some of my 'activities' - and I didn't really get into good shape until my mid-20's. Paying for it now.
Good luck on the new hip :aok
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: Oldman731 on October 10, 2017, 02:54:26 PM
No thunder to be stolen! I'm pleased that the thread has brought out the discussion it has - very informative, for me at least. And thanks to all for the good wishes; it appears that many of us will continue to need them!
- oldman (and Icepac, that TV girl was a virtual duplicate of my own experience)
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: bustr on October 10, 2017, 03:39:11 PM
I'm glad you have made it and are ok. And you too Esayscor.
You can get the exact same symptoms taking a blood thinner and have allowed your blood INR percentage, blood pressure, and cholesterol to get too high at the same time. Your cognition will go to crap and too your depth perception and vision. My doctor fortunately caught it in time because the end result is death by stroke or just bleeding out. I was having issues with short term memory, vision and stringing full sentences together. Seems food and drink really will kill you, especially those good kinds we love to indulge during the Holidays.
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Post by: 1ijac on October 11, 2017, 01:37:41 AM
All the best to you guys who have stated some health issues. I have some myself and I'm glad to hear of the positive outcomes.
one-eye
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Post by: HL117 on October 13, 2017, 07:53:34 AM
Oldman,
My Dad has had 1 maybe two of these, he has been doing fine since, think the first one was over a year and a half ago, they have him on a drug to prevent recurrence, he goes about his normal oldman routines :lol
Regards
HL
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: TequilaChaser on October 13, 2017, 10:51:13 AM
I'm glad to hear that you didn't just shake it off and decided to go to the hospital for a checkup and diagnosis, oldman!
Sorry to hear about yours, Easyscor's and Ramesis and others medical issues... I'll try and keep y'all in my thoughts and prayers....
ROC is absolutely correct in his post about all of us getting older and our bodies are reminding us all daily of this fact....
oldman, you never said if your not being able to fly meant in Real Life or game, but I would think you were referring to flying in real life...
Keep Hanging Tough, all of you
TC / Johnny
Title: Re: TIA
Post by: Mister Fork on October 13, 2017, 11:08:00 AM
Yeah, dang FAA regulations will ground you as a pilot if you suffer any type of brain related incident. TIA's, concussions, and alike mean you cannot fly for a while. 2 years is what OM said ( :confused:) - crappy.
It doesn't stop him from him kicking my arse online :airplane: (had to edit out the Irish slang)
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Post by: Drano on October 13, 2017, 12:57:15 PM