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Title: Ok wingman box
Post by: USCH on October 08, 2017, 04:53:37 PM
Can we have a box to give permission so someone who wants to wingman you can be denied if need be..
Under the current conditions if i wanted to find a person with my second account i could watch his her actions all day long with the wingman cammand on the map. And post any attacking buff or gv location to squadmates or countrymen.
Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: puller on October 08, 2017, 09:48:54 PM
+1

 :noid :noid
Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: nrshida on October 09, 2017, 12:25:09 AM
Ah. I know who you ran into  :D

What a creep still doing this after all these years.

+1,000,000

Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: Bruv119 on October 09, 2017, 01:42:48 AM
+1  Cybro and the Bish (Jokers) have gone to far with all the steam accounts it's just too easy now!   Other games do not have this problem!   

Mouse over should also be disabled in the MA.  Might aswell disable cross country channel text / voice aswell.  Fog of war and all that. 

 :P   :noid   :noid  :noid
Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: Lusche on October 09, 2017, 02:41:47 AM
Might aswell disable cross country channel text / voice aswell.  Fog of war and all that. 


In the age of teamspeak, discord, whatsapp and whatnot, that would really take those pesky spiez out of business  :old:
Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: Vraciu on October 09, 2017, 08:50:02 AM
-1 unless it is optional.   The wingman command sometimes breaks and a rejoin is needed.  Repetitive OK boxes would be a PITA.
Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: Zener on October 09, 2017, 11:00:06 AM

Mouse over should also be disabled in the MA. 


-1.  There are good uses for it; contacting other pilots headed for the same target so you don't hit the same thing, for example.  Why change something for everyone over an allegation a couple players are misusing it via second accounts?  If that's the road to go down, then what... disable radar next? 
Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: Kanth on October 09, 2017, 12:37:30 PM
+1
Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: nrshida on October 09, 2017, 12:48:36 PM
-1.  There are good uses for it; contacting other pilots headed for the same target so you don't hit the same thing, for example. 

Then they can just accept your request, or even have the option automatically allowed as an Options check list just like stall limiter.


Why change something for everyone over an allegation a couple players are misusing it via second accounts?

See above comment about it being an option. Conversely why should it be allowed to be abused be a minority of people who's fun derives from systematically ruining someone else's gameplay.



Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: Zener on October 10, 2017, 09:36:13 AM
See above comment about it being an option. Conversely why should it be allowed to be abused be a minority of people who's fun derives from systematically ruining someone else's gameplay.

I was commenting on the suggestion to disable mouseover in the MA.  I wasn't commenting on the suggestion to make the wingman thing optional.  There was no option offered as far as mouseover goes; the suggestion was to simply turn it off, and I think that would be a mistake.  Only a tiny fraction of players would try to exploit it while at the same time many players find it beneficial, even useful.  A cheater would only find another way to exploit some facet of the game, then it would be let's change something else most people use but could be exploited.  There would never be an end to that.

The gist of this thread seems to be using game parameters (or rather, crippling them) in order to make it difficult for someone who cheats by using a shade account.  I don't believe there are that many people doing that, and if they do, I couldn't care less.  I know I don't, I never will, and if I learned somebody was I wouldn't even fly in the same sector as them.  I believe part of the game is having to figure things out, like where a CV might be, things like that.  If someone has to resort to cheating in order to find that out, I feel sorry for them.  All they're doing is admitting they lack the talent or ability to play the game the way it's supposed to be played and they can only "win" by using some method to cheat.

Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: nrshida on October 10, 2017, 10:33:48 AM
There was no option offered as far as mouseover goes; the suggestion was to simply turn it off,

Obviously that would have to be made an option too otherwise the same goal could be accomplished.


All they're doing is admitting they lack the talent or ability to play the game the way it's supposed to be played

Well not to themselves obviously.


I feel sorry for them.

That won't last long. Trust me on this one.



Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: Zener on October 10, 2017, 03:05:32 PM

That won't last long. Trust me on this one.

Well it's how I've felt since I first started playing AH.  There were accusations then of people gaming the system or cheating by some means or other, just like there are today.  I just don't worry about it anymore.  If they do that, it doesn't impact me or how I try to play because I have no problem moving to another front if I suspect that is going on (which is a VERY rare thing, btw).  I know there are players who constantly harp on and on about this stuff in game, and I tune them out as well.  I'm here to relax and have a good time, I'm just not interested in all that drama when most of it is un-provable anyway.  If someone has to resort to multiple accounts to find me or know what I'm up to, then great.  I can sleep well at night knowing I'm able to play for half the price it costs them.  :D

I think it's an easy thing to learn fairly quickly who the usual suspects are and just avoid them. 
Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: USCH on October 10, 2017, 04:32:15 PM
-1 unless it is optional.   The wingman command sometimes breaks and a rejoin is needed.  Repetitive OK boxes would be a PITA.
you could always check a box that says "never show this message again"
Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: Vraciu on October 10, 2017, 09:21:09 PM
you could always check a box that says "never show this message again"

Or add it to the options so I never have to do it at all.  "Enable Wingman Confirmation Box."
Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: nrshida on October 11, 2017, 12:53:01 AM
I have no problem moving to another front if I suspect that is going on (which is a VERY rare thing, btw).

Yeah you can do that. Or just incorporate two optional features to lock out a known game exploit.

The problem can no longer affect me anyway. Just have first-hand experience of it.



Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: Zener on October 12, 2017, 11:24:15 AM
Well, as I said, all I'm addressing was the suggestion to completely kill the mouseover icon player identifier.  I have no opinion one way or the other as to the wingman thing.

Since I primarily fly bombers, and I often see bombers ahead of me perhaps heading to the same target, I find it very helpful to know who that pilot is so that I can contact them to see what they're hitting or which side of a target they're dropping on.  Same question is often asked of me if I happen to be the first one there.

Another time mouseover comes in handy is when you have squadmates identified by a colored icon and they are separated on the map.  I can see it's a squadmate, but without mouseover I can't tell who's who.  Yes, I could ask, but the mouseover comes in handy so I don't have to.

For these reasons, I'd like to see it stay the way it is.
 
Title: Re: Ok wingman box
Post by: nrshida on October 12, 2017, 12:37:57 PM
Perhaps the OP might elaborate on his experiences to give the other side of the case.

Frankly it no longer concerns me with the way I now fly & I'm aware of the success rate of this request.