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Title: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on October 11, 2017, 12:38:32 PM
Hi wondering if VR is like track IR can you look around the same way?

 Is VR a more immersing experience than a large monitor ?
 
Is it worth it?
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: Copprhed on October 11, 2017, 01:17:33 PM
Well, was the $700 Asus GTX 1080 FE and the $600 Oculus Rift worth it? HELL YES!!! And now that prices have gone done and options up, it's even more so. It's not the same as TIR, you can only look around as far as your neck and chair allow...you know, like REAL LIFE. You look out over the side of the cockpit and you have a 3 d view, with actual depth perception. You actually get airsick. You have to get used to it. It improves your dogfighting all around, and it gives you an advantage over someone on a screen, because you have actual depth so you can judge where your opponent is going to be more accurately. The person in 2d is at a disadvantage, IMHO.
 So, if I were to have to make a decision based on my experience so far, I would pull the trigger in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on October 11, 2017, 02:12:02 PM

Great thank you for taking the time and sharing the info!

I will get some barf bags too.
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: Gman on October 11, 2017, 03:30:35 PM
Vulcan has been using VR in this game for...well, forever, and he knew something most of us didn't trip to until the Rift and Vives came out.  I was an early adopter of both the Vive and Rift, and couldn't believe what HTC had done particularly with the Rift.  (PS, if you like cockpit games/driving more than stand up games to impress your wife's friends during dinner night, buy the RIFT instead of the Vive). 

HTC IMO was the first flight sim to really make VR worth it, there are a couple others now that have done a good job too, but HTC especially, and HT incorporated the hat/kp view system with VR in a way to make it possible to be competitive and still look behind yourself as easily and quickly as non VR players, something pretty much every other sim lacks still.

Every person, including a couple over at Flamewarriors who read my early review of the Rift early on there, who I have recommended the Rift to has picked one up, and NOT been sorry.

They just made the $399 price with the controllers a fixed price now too, as of yesterday.

http://www.pcgamer.com/oculus-rift-and-controller-bundle-gets-a-permanent-price-cut-to-399/
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 11, 2017, 03:35:41 PM
Vulcan has been using VR in this game for...well, forever, and he knew something most of us didn't trip to until the Rift and Vives came out.  I was an early adopter of both the Vive and Rift, and couldn't believe what HTC had done particularly with the Rift.  (PS, if you like cockpit games/driving more than stand up games to impress your wife's friends during dinner night, buy the RIFT instead of the Vive). 

HTC IMO was the first flight sim to really make VR worth it, there are a couple others now that have done a good job too, but HTC especially, and HT incorporated the hat/kp view system with VR in a way to make it possible to be competitive and still look behind yourself as easily and quickly as non VR players, something pretty much every other sim lacks still.

Every person, including a couple over at Flamewarriors who read my early review of the Rift early on there, who I have recommended the Rift to has picked one up, and NOT been sorry.

They just made the $399 price with the controllers a fixed price now too, as of yesterday.

http://www.pcgamer.com/oculus-rift-and-controller-bundle-gets-a-permanent-price-cut-to-399/
Yup, exactly...NAILED it :aok   Copperhead TOO :rock   There is A LOT of info in this forum about optimal settings for VR, some other items in here as well. This Game, the Makers and better yet THE PLAYERS make this game worth while. Always Johnny-ON-The-Spot with answers and tips for just about anything. Sorry Lusche...EVERY THING :x
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: Vulcan on October 11, 2017, 06:52:46 PM
The easiest way to describe the difference for me is... I can no longer play the game on a 2D monitor. Before AH3 I used a couple of mods to play AH2 with VR, there was a small gap where there was no VR support and the mods wouldn't work - I had to stop playing AH during that time.
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on October 11, 2017, 08:12:57 PM
Thanks Guys I appreciate the feedback
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: Gman on October 11, 2017, 09:14:58 PM
$399 is a great price, that's close to 1/2 price from the original cost if you include the controllers which now come with the Rift for that deal.  Good timing to get into VR Raven.
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: Krusty on October 20, 2017, 02:21:07 PM
That is a great price now. Too bad my current system can't really run it. Good enough for the 2D widescreen, not powerful enough for VR.
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: Vulcan on October 20, 2017, 03:57:24 PM
That is a great price now. Too bad my current system can't really run it. Good enough for the 2D widescreen, not powerful enough for VR.

I run an I3-6100, with a GTX960 just fine.
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: germ on October 22, 2017, 04:20:39 PM
Well I just got home with my new Oculus Rift. I'm running a 1070 Nvidia card. Been using TrackIR for about 6 years now in the game.

My immediate thought now that I'm currently downloading the rift software is that this isn't going to be a simple take it out of the box and start playing effort. haha.

Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: Skuzzy on October 22, 2017, 05:16:25 PM
If you want to get the most out of it, then it does take a bit of time to setup and configure, but I think you will find the returns are worth the investment.
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: Kanth on October 22, 2017, 05:23:41 PM
it really wasn't that bad. The setup from oculus is really quite handholding with good results and once you get into aces high it's also not terribly difficult to get to where you are comfortable.

Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: germ on October 22, 2017, 05:30:04 PM
If you want to get the most out of it, then it does take a bit of time to setup and configure, but I think you will find the returns are worth the investment.

So far about 1.5 hours into this I still haven't even figured out the basic setup and I'm about ready to throw the thing through the wall..

Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: germ on October 22, 2017, 06:40:13 PM
So far about 1.5 hours into this I still haven't even figured out the basic setup and I'm about ready to throw the thing through the wall..

Got it to work.. can deff see a huge difference. Need to tweak all the setting though. The depth perception is cool.. looking backwards in my fav plane (P-51) is a bit of a pain.
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: germ on October 23, 2017, 12:18:16 PM
Is VR a more immersing experience than a large monitor ?
 
Is it worth it?

I can now answer this question as I'm a fresh noob to VR in the game and was playing with TrackIR for the past 6 years. Getting everything setup did take a bit of time and there were moments when I thought I was going to lose my mind. I spent many hours reading this forum on graphics settings etc..

I can now say that VR was worth the money spent. So much so that I'm now motivated to actually build me some kind of a cockpit with an old race car seat I have in my garage. While I will agree with everyone that has said the graphics to do take a hit. I also agree that the improvements to depth perception and just overall game play completely makes up for it.

At first I was getting some headaches and it's taken a little bit of time to get use to the reticles, but once my eyes relaxed, it was quite an immersive experience.

I'd say go for it..
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 23, 2017, 11:37:31 PM
Its just as in 2d mode! You can adjust head placement and f-10 to save it! Pretty sure most of us using VR use same button/views system with VR :salute Per your 51 rear view post
Title: Re: Is VR good in this sim?
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 23, 2017, 11:40:57 PM
We overlapped a bit! Should have quoted then responded! Yes, it takes some getting use too, but I LOVE IT!
Just peruse my scores from before est.before Feb. 2017, with recent tours. Hit % way up! It has made the game more real..beyond even the improvement of TIR! I had Tir since 2013, and thought there couldnt be anything better :uhoh WRONG! lol I believed in TIR so much I outfitted whole squad! Wish i could do same with VR! A wee bit lower on price and HECK yeah! Any questions just ask, GERM. We both fly Bish and I am on most days! Welcome aboard :rock Believe you fly with Sick Puppies, or is it PurpleHearts, dang Wild Turkey lol If sick pups, elec knows what I mean about loving TIR, just ask him :x   Any questions can be answered as Kanth,Randy1 and myself...just too name a few, have been with VR for about a year. Some a bit longer, too. Best thing about this game, ALWAYS someone able and willing to help! YES, that includes even COPRHEAD, A dear friend I came to respect back in the testing phase of AH3!