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Title: New joystick
Post by: subarubren on October 13, 2017, 11:39:52 AM
Not been flying on here long so wanted some feedback on joysticks? I've started with a cheap thrust master one t flight I think it is! What would you recommend to upgrade to? Been looking at saitek x55 or x56 any thoughts most welcome
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: 100Coogn on October 13, 2017, 11:46:01 AM
Not been flying on here long so wanted some feedback on joysticks? I've started with a cheap thrust master one t flight I think it is! What would you recommend to upgrade to? Been looking at saitek x55 or x56 any thoughts most welcome

I have an X52 and I'm quite happy with it.  I wish the spring in the Joystick had a little more resistance, but I like it.
Someone will chime in with hands-n experience with the HOTAS you are referring too.

Coogan
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: Wiley on October 13, 2017, 11:48:57 AM
Unfortunately, with the x55, if you google "x55 throttle wiring" you'll see what the problem with them is.

I really want to like that stick, my pre Madcatz X52's been awesome to me.  The X55's just not recommendable IMO.  I wonder if Logitech will ever fix it since they bought them.

I'm not sure what stick I'd get these days.  Warthog looks decent but it's a ton of money.

Wiley.
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: waystin2 on October 13, 2017, 11:51:37 AM
X52.  :aok
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: The Fugitive on October 13, 2017, 03:55:32 PM
I have had a number of sticks some of which they dont make any more.

I had the CH products fighter stick. First as the gameport version for 8 years and then as the USB version for ten years. Only issue was the hat switch getting worn out. The new version however seem to have become junk right out of the box. When I got tired of fixing the hat switch I looked into some other stick.

The next stick I bought was the Saitek X55 Rhino (https://www.amazon.com/Saitek-Flight-Rhino-Throttle-System/dp/B00HHAIY72) (throttle and stick combo). This one lasted just over a year  :( Again, hat switch issues. I really liked this stick. It was smooth and the tension of the spring on the stick is adjustable so it was easy to get comfortable. Lots of buttons and switches.

The next stick and the one I am still using is the Thrustmaster T.16000M (https://www.amazon.com/Guillemot-Thrustmaster-T-16000M-Fcs-Joystick-Pc/dp/B01H6KXGEI/ref=dp_ob_title_ce?dpID=41Lhhq3Eg8L&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=detail). Very smooth control, but not enough buttons for me. My brother in law has the older version of this stick (the one with the green light instead of the yellow) and has had it for years playing AH so I think the longevity of the stick should be pretty good.

I still use my old CH pedals going on 15 years now and have only had one pot go bad in all that time. Switched back to my CH throttle to use with the T.16000M as the button layout gives me better options with the T.16000M having so few buttons.

The issue I have with switchs is the post of the hat switch that actually hits the buttons wears out, gets a flat spot after being used so many times. My plan is to make an aluminum post and epoxy it into the hat and see how long that lasts. While I do miss the old CH stick the X55 has much better control, but only a little better than the T.16000M. So until I get the new post installed Im ok with the T.16000M...... but only for now   :D   
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: flippz on October 13, 2017, 05:42:31 PM
I am a firm vkb believer now.  I bought a mk2 for the office which is butter smooth and very accurate.  its a very good starter stick and had plenty of buttons for me at the time.  now I have vr at the house and am awaiting for the mgc mk2 pro hich will be available on nov 1.  I highly encourage you to look in to there products. also there customer service is 2nd to none.  the guy that handles the north America end can not sleep he is always on top of emails.
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: JimmyC on October 14, 2017, 04:41:29 AM
Vkb
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: TerryRF on October 14, 2017, 08:09:51 AM
  VKB...Rudder pedals and Gunfighter. Waiting on MCG. Expenxive but worth it.
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: zack1234 on October 15, 2017, 03:18:50 AM
In the UK they are selling a cheapo joystick for £20, if your new to the game its got to be a bargain :)

I have CH gear but i am going to buy one because i am Cheap i like to keep it real :rofl

I will give a review,

https://www.maplin.co.uk/p/trust-gxt555-vibration-feedback-joystick-a47xu

By the way if you spend £800 on a joystick your usually an tool in game :)
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: Bizman on October 15, 2017, 03:39:19 AM
If they changed the logo I'd call that a Logitech! The ergonomics look very good. Hopefully they're built to last at least a year of moderate use.
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: subarubren on October 15, 2017, 03:56:39 AM
I doubt that would be any better than the t.flight hotas I'm using now? I'm looking at the x52 now
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: zack1234 on October 15, 2017, 04:27:15 AM
X52 joystick is kak

You will need a mod on the Hall effects axis and a usb powered hub for the fairy lights.

If your in the UK I have x52 throttle if you want it for nothing.

Check out eBay for a sidewinder apparently they are very good

I have some rudder pedals as well in attic if your interested

I am awesome as well :)
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: lunatic1 on October 15, 2017, 04:50:45 AM
I have an X52 and I'm quite happy with it.  I wish the spring in the Joystick had a little more resistance, but I like it.
Someone will chime in with hands-n experience with the HOTAS you are referring too.

Coogan
Hey Coogan go to youtube type in X-52 there is a video on a spring modification for the X-52 and other stuff.



Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: subarubren on October 15, 2017, 05:14:08 AM
where are you zack?
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: zack1234 on October 15, 2017, 05:22:57 AM
In KFC?

Having 2 piece meal and pepsi :)
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: zack1234 on October 15, 2017, 05:53:04 AM
In the North :)
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: 100Coogn on October 15, 2017, 11:45:49 AM
Hey Coogan go to youtube type in X-52 there is a video on a spring modification for the X-52 and other stuff.

Thanks lunatic1, I'll check that out.   :cheers:

Coogan
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: Bizman on October 15, 2017, 12:06:28 PM
I doubt that would be any better than the t.flight hotas I'm using now? I'm looking at the x52 now

For what I've used the t.flight hotas is about the same quality as a Logi Wingman Extreme3D which looks pretty much the same as the Trust in question. However, the price is only half of the t.flight. That makes it a good choice for a two-weeker trying to decide whether AH is worth his money or not.
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: zack1234 on October 15, 2017, 01:38:41 PM
Plugged it in it maps staight away and the spring is very strong and it centers well :)

£20 if it lasts a year you cannot complain :)

Its a heavy joystick must have pieces of narrzzie gold in it :rofl

I will drag the rudder pedals and x52 throttle out of the attic Sub :)

Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: Bruv119 on October 16, 2017, 12:36:14 PM
you will have to build up your arm muscles if that centre spring is stiff.    :uhoh
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: zack1234 on October 17, 2017, 01:00:02 PM
When you get  married Mrs Bruv  will sell all your gear and buy some scatter cushions  :)

Congrats by the way :)
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: subarubren on October 17, 2017, 02:04:58 PM
probably have to post it zack if your way up north? have to come to some arrangement
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: JimmyC on October 17, 2017, 08:38:47 PM
Zack lives in Wales
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: zack1234 on October 17, 2017, 11:50:44 PM
I have reported you for defamation  :old:
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: Brooke on October 18, 2017, 12:59:08 PM
My favorite stick if you get pedals is ch products.

My favorite stick without pedals and best stick for the money is thrustmaster t.16000m
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: Gman on October 18, 2017, 01:28:37 PM
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My favorite stick if you get pedals is ch products.

My favorite stick without pedals and best stick for the money is thrustmaster t.16000m

You can also run a CH stick without pedals if you go with the new TM TWCS throttle, it has a rudder bar that works very well from the test I did with it, more accurate than the old Saitek x36/x45 rudder bar, but using the same idea.

I agree, especially for this game, my personal pref is still a CH stick.  I've ordered the Viripl T50 stick this week, and have pre ordered the new VKB Gunfighter as well, so we'll see, but I still prefer the CH over the Warthog, Cougar, and Saitek sticks for AH still too.
Title: Re: New joystick
Post by: zack1234 on October 23, 2017, 03:56:10 PM
My £20 joystick is unusually good :old: