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Title: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: John Galt on October 17, 2017, 01:40:59 PM
These two have been coming around my house for years. (https://s1.postimg.org/38yq9it2n3/received_517404891928897.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4byfkeowij/)

Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: Lazerr on October 17, 2017, 01:50:15 PM
Had them intoduced into central wisconsin a couple years back.. and another batch last year.

I fear they are just premium wolf food in this area.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: Wiley on October 17, 2017, 01:58:47 PM
Had them intoduced into central wisconsin a couple years back.. and another batch last year.

I fear they are just premium wolf food in this area.

That's kind of their thing.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: Puma44 on October 17, 2017, 02:11:25 PM
What an impressive sight.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: oboe on October 17, 2017, 02:51:46 PM
Beautiful animals.  Beautiful pic.  Saw them a few times the first couple of years out here but haven't seen them in a while now.

Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: oakranger on October 18, 2017, 12:11:28 AM
You guys once had the subspecies Eastern elk but they have gone extinct sometime in 1800...  I believe.  Rocky Mountain elk are the sudspecies that are being used for reintroduce in the in the Great Lakes region and Eastern mts.   

I know Kansas has few free roaming elk in western Kansas.   Slowly they are expanding east.   
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: oboe on October 18, 2017, 06:25:07 AM
The one in the foreground especially looks more silver-gray than the ones I see out here, which are more brown-tan on the backs and flanks.

Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: oakranger on October 18, 2017, 07:26:31 AM
The one in the foreground especially looks more silver-gray than the ones I see out here, which are more brown-tan on the backs and flanks.


Yes, there are a slight color difference of the rocky mt elk depend on where it was from.   

I imagine no less than 100 years to 500 years, those elk will evolve with the type of ecosystem they are in.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: ghi on October 18, 2017, 09:56:13 AM
Nice shot! i didn't know they live on east coast.
I'm sharing the road with elk on Trans-Canada 1/16 Alberta, BC , i spent 4 grands on my moose bumper;  but never seen one on east coast Quebec,New Brunswick,Nova Scotia, moose , deer only .
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: Copprhed on October 18, 2017, 10:30:31 AM
Winston has found a girlfriend and has left Canada, now that his friend Pipz is gone.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: John Galt on October 18, 2017, 05:43:33 PM
You guys once had the subspecies Eastern elk but they have gone extinct sometime in 1800...  I believe.  Rocky Mountain elk are the sudspecies that are being used for reintroduce in the in the Great Lakes region and Eastern mts.   

I know Kansas has few free roaming elk in western Kansas.   Slowly they are expanding east.

They are rocky mountain Elk here, they were reintroduced in 1920.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: John Galt on October 18, 2017, 05:45:38 PM
With being rut, the wife and I have spent quite a bit of time watching them in the yard, and at our camp.
Will def post more. And can email who ever wants thegroup of photos.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: oakranger on October 18, 2017, 06:16:24 PM
They are rocky mountain Elk here, they were reintroduced in 1920.

Figure they would be. RME have the largest and biggest biogeography population.   The other sudspecies do not have the supportive population, not adaptive to the eastern U.S. climate, and may not have the immunes to viruse and diseases. 
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: Vulcan on October 20, 2017, 04:05:47 PM
I see a BBQ in their future...
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: RUSH1 on October 20, 2017, 09:07:15 PM
I see a BBQ in their future...

You read my mind.  While an animal lover, I still found that photo to be very tasty indeed.  Hopefully their numbers will once again reach a manageable, harvesting level.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: Gman on October 22, 2017, 05:52:03 AM
Up here in North/Western Canada, my friend from Vancouver owns a hunting lodge and property right on the BC/ALberta Border in the top 1/3 or so of the Provinces right near the border line.  Elk have recovered up there so well that they are issuing bonus tags, the "additional opportunities" licenses so that you can harvest more until they close that sales of the tags due to what the game spotters/counters decide so far as their numbers.

So, they can recover, it just takes careful work by the right people and groups.  That manageable harvesting level is possible Rush1, it happened up here.  For hunters from our friends in the USA, these elk tags are available for right around $200 USD.  For residents here they are $30 USD.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: Ramesis on October 22, 2017, 02:53:58 PM
Had them intoduced into central wisconsin a couple years back.. and another batch last year.

I fear they are just premium wolf food in this area.

Every living thing must eat  :D
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: oakranger on October 22, 2017, 04:10:51 PM
Had them intoduced into central wisconsin a couple years back.. and another batch last year.

I fear they are just premium wolf food in this area.

For Elk,  not their primary diet but wolves are great predators that keep other animals in check. 
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: Vulcan on October 22, 2017, 04:17:39 PM
you can hunt wapiti for free here, all year around. Though most of them have crossbred with red deer.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: oakranger on October 22, 2017, 04:47:35 PM
you can hunt wapiti for free here, all year around. Though most of them have crossbred with red deer.

Where is here....assuming you are European because you mentioned Red Deer.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: Vulcan on October 22, 2017, 06:55:17 PM
Where is here....assuming you are European because you mentioned Red Deer.

NZ, we have red/sika/fallow/sambar/rusa/white-tail deer and wapiti. As well as chamois and himalayan tahr.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: ghi on October 22, 2017, 07:37:28 PM

 I remember watching this NG documentary about ticks killing moose in Alberta and lately lyme disease warnings in news here in Ontario; they survive the winters with warmer weather over past decades.  I noticed on Weather Network and few more photo sites i'm surfing , all kind of wildlife full of ticks, including deer squirrel, hare,...  i understand  East Cost deer and moose population is even worse affected, i don't know how safe is to consume the meat.
https://youtu.be/Rsd2i-qFHK4
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: oakranger on October 22, 2017, 08:20:36 PM
I remember watching this NG documentary about ticks killing moose in Alberta and lately lyme disease warnings in news here in Ontario; they survive the winters with warmer weather over past decades.  I noticed on Weather Network and few more photo sites i'm surfing , all kind of wildlife full of ticks, including deer squirrel, hare,...  i understand  East Cost deer and moose population is even worse affected, i don't know how safe is to consume the meat.
https://youtu.be/Rsd2i-qFHK4

If you worried about the meat, call your local wildlife agency about it.  They are usually good at making public announcement about affected game meat. 
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: DaddyAce on October 22, 2017, 09:28:37 PM
NZ, we have red/sika/fallow/sambar/rusa/white-tail deer and wapiti. As well as chamois and himalayan tahr.

...interesting Vulcan, saw some red-deer looking critters on the Island of Rinca, out in your general neighborhood (Komodo Park), apparently one of the items on Komodo Dragon menu.  I thought they looked like an elk cousin.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: DaddyAce on October 22, 2017, 09:38:41 PM
I remember watching this NG documentary about ticks killing moose in Alberta and lately lyme disease warnings in news here in Ontario; they survive the winters with warmer weather over past decades.  I noticed on Weather Network and few more photo sites i'm surfing , all kind of wildlife full of ticks, including deer squirrel, hare,...  i understand  East Cost deer and moose population is even worse affected, i don't know how safe is to consume the meat.
https://youtu.be/Rsd2i-qFHK4

I've seen parasites, especially lice, on deer etc.  As far as I know there's no concern for direct disease transmission from the game meat associated with those parasites. The one I find scary is prion-caused disease, the one near here in the West is chronic wasting disease.  So far we're apparently clear of it where we hunt in Montana.  I raised my sons on deer, elk, antelope & bighorn sheep.

We're early into general deer and elk season here now;  am getting up early tomorrow to hunt elk near home with my 29 year old son.  Between us we can take 3 elk here, although if we get one we'll be content, as that will provide plenty of meat for us and to share.
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: oakranger on October 22, 2017, 10:27:10 PM
You be amazed the number of diseases wildlife carry.  Hep. E I know you can get sick if the game meat has it.  Same for CD
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: JOACH1M on October 23, 2017, 10:08:38 AM
Had them intoduced into central wisconsin a couple years back.. and another batch last year.

I fear they are just premium wolf food in this area.
Pretty much what happens to anything in the UP too
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: ghi on October 23, 2017, 12:08:17 PM
Pretty much what happens to anything in the UP too
Cool video i enjoyed watching, recorded in Michigan last month, coho salmon spawning migration ;
https://youtu.be/DBbUN21TQnE
Title: Re: Elk In my yard. Location Elk County Pennsylvania
Post by: Vulcan on October 23, 2017, 06:38:52 PM
...interesting Vulcan, saw some red-deer looking critters on the Island of Rinca, out in your general neighborhood (Komodo Park), apparently one of the items on Komodo Dragon menu.  I thought they looked like an elk cousin.

Either Rusa or Sambar. If they look massive like a tank then Sambar, not very good eating unfortunately