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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Aub on October 27, 2001, 02:56:00 PM
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Hey yall!
Alright, so, any ideas for scenarios to crank up? Or, am I not privledged enough to ask this since I'm not a "member of the community" yet?
Arlo, I'm already putting down your vote...
Aub
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Post any ideas you might have to the Special Events forum ( http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=7 (http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=7) ). banana and Daddog are always looking for new ideas.
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Also check the "events" page on the HTC website for what's happening now.
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So...players don't design and run scenarios here on their own?
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We have a Scenario Team that is made up of players. Check the Events site: http://events.hitechcreations.com/ (http://events.hitechcreations.com/)
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We have a Scenario Team that is made up of players.
Yeah, but I was asking this because Iwanted to design a scenario. Me giving an idea and see someone else not use it or see it fail, jsut doesnt give me much enjoyment ;)
In case you was wondering my credentials, I designed Operation Pedestal which played on AW last month.
Aub
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Your best bet then is to get in touch with banana or Daddog. banana is the Lead CM and in charge of Scenarios. Daddog is in charge of the Weekly Events.
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The CM waiting list is a mile long and apparently there are a limited (exact quantity unknown) number of slots. I think we're better off working up stuff and submitting it .... and resubmitting it. And hoping it gets run the way we envisioned it, Cousin Aub.
Hell, the scenario I want to see doesn't even have the planeset or terrain available yet. What are the odds of drumming up support amongst this crowd without having something to sample and whet their appetites?
Catch 22. Whoa! ;)
Originally posted by Exile:
Your best bet then is to get in touch with banana or Daddog. banana is the Lead CM and in charge of Scenarios. Daddog is in charge of the Weekly Events.
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Arlo-
Calm down. If you give the Scenario team half a chance you will find they will accept almost any ideas. I haven't been around for a while, but there were different levels of scenarios, ranging from mini, one-day affairs to the full blown, several week, must-sign-up affairs.
See that flashing banner at the top of the BBS? check out the link. Also, hit the scenario forums and start posting the ideas. Don't take a defensive posture for no good reason.
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Not being defensive at all. Just realistic. The scenario I've been working on for years requires at least 6 planes modeled (preferably 12) that your average sim pilot doesn't get a woody over. The chances of them ever being considered are nil unless some interest can be seen.
That's where I was for years over there. That's where I am over here. :)
So .... I work up maps, plans, tactics, strategy. I research and study, collect as much data as I can.
And I share it with as many as will listen.
:D
Originally posted by Kieran:
Arlo-
Calm down. If you give the Scenario team half a chance you will find they will accept almost any ideas. I haven't been around for a while, but there were different levels of scenarios, ranging from mini, one-day affairs to the full blown, several week, must-sign-up affairs.
See that flashing banner at the top of the BBS? check out the link. Also, hit the scenario forums and start posting the ideas. Don't take a defensive posture for no good reason.
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You have two different lobbies going then- the lobby to the community for your concept, then in turn the lobby to HTC to build the planes you need.
The only thing I noticed was Aub's defensive stance that said "can I post this since I am not an official member of the community?" Dripping with sarcasm as it was, I thought perhaps someone had told him something to make him beleive the scenario team was uncooperative, something they most certainly aren't. I mistakenly addressed the response to you, and I apologize.
Dangit, did it again.
[ 10-27-2001: Message edited by: Kieran ]
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No need to apologize, my friend. You obviously get where I'm coming from. < S >
:)
Originally posted by Kieran:
You have two different lobbies going then- the lobby to the community for your concept, then in turn the lobby to HTC to build the planes you need.
The only thing I noticed was Aub's defensive stance that said "can I post this since I am not an official member of the community?" Dripping with sarcasm as it was, I thought perhaps someone had told him something to make him beleive the scenario team was uncooperative, something they most certainly aren't. I mistakenly addressed the response to you, and I apologize.
Dangit, did it again.
[ 10-27-2001: Message edited by: Kieran ]
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The only thing I noticed was Aub's defensive stance that said "can I post this since I am not an official member of the community?" Dripping with sarcasm as it was, I thought perhaps someone had told him something to make him beleive the scenario team was uncooperative, something they most certainly aren't.
That stim's (sp) from one of Rotor's threads where someone told him he wasn't qualified to complain/give ideas/etc.. as he wasn't a "member of the community" as he had only been playing a few days.
Aub
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Your best bet then is to get in touch with banana or Daddog. banana is the Lead CM and in charge of Scenarios. Daddog is in charge of the Weekly Events.
Exile, if I was ready for the Events Team, I see no easy way to contact them.
May I suggest a form on your website to list future events? This form should include User Name, Email, Idea, When, etc. etc. If you have any questions you should contact Vanessa "Dawn" Edwards. She was the former head of the Events Team over at AW before EA let her go.
She ran the department very well, and, she would be 99% likely to help you in any way :)
Aub
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I'm sure you will enjoy your time in AH but we are used to each other and if some new guy walks in and starts banging his mouth... well you know.
It's up to you what kind of reputation will you have in AH.
btw If your sig says "UBB Suck" my guess is you are talking about this UBB and in that case it's not a good start imho. At least I like this UBB :)
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I understood Roto's stab at humor from the get-go. I mean, how could anyone not laugh at anyone saying "I am gud at flight simz"? Joke is as old as the hills... or is it my obtuse sense of humor? Roto may or may not have meant to stir things up (I thought he was funny), but you shouldn't let that reflect on your opinion of the community as a whole.
I don't personally think that a point of view is validated by the number of posts one makes. Pop those ideas out there and discuss them. If your ideas are sound, they will fly.
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Originally posted by Aub:
Exile, if I was ready for the Events Team, I see no easy way to contact them.
Aub
Geez...how hard is it? He gave you both of their names. Send them a private message for Pete's sake or look them up online sometime.
I am all for getting new players into the game and all but you and your little buddy Arlo havent exactly gone about things the right way, imo. You come in taking pot-shots at the game calling it Aces Hoes and stuff like that and now you are looking for a favorable reaction from the crowd here? Sure you laugh it off and say that its all in good humor, but seriously, what would your reaction have been if we had done the same while you were over there in AW?
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Just a word of reason here, Sling. There was a thing way back in the old days of AW- and its name was "HATE".
Was it Doc that had a "Hate" website up? I can't recall now. I do know that it was a common joke amongst the AW pilots to visciously insult one another- all in good fun. Think of it this way- it's their way of saying "'Tard" (as is done here).
I don't think these guys mean anything at all by their comments- in fact, I think Roto's first post was merely his way of saying "Hello" to old friends he knew were here. That people misunderstood and laid into him just made it all the better for him. Think of this as the equivalent of chute-shooting in the game. It is done to get a rise, but isn't really mean spirited.
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Correction(s), slingblade ol' pal.
1: I've never used the term "aces hoes" in my entire life.
2: I've never taken potshots at this game, ever.
3: Watchin' guys like you come up with those assumptions IS entertaining.
and "slingblade" says ... (http://www.wavsurfer.com/map/wavs/sling/uhhhuh.wav)
Originally posted by sling322:
... all but you and your little buddy Arlo havent exactly gone about things the right way, imo. You come in taking pot-shots at the game calling it Aces Hoes and stuff like that and now you are looking for a favorable reaction from the crowd here? Sure you laugh it off and say that its all in good humor, but seriously, what would your reaction have been if we had done the same while you were over there in AW?
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Always open to new ideas... whatcha got in mind?
Keep in mind that we *can* get new terrains whipped up, but getting planes built is a quite a bit more problematic, obviously. The CMs make a list of planes they want, some get in, some don't. It's better that you design anything with the planes we've already got and keep yer fingers crossed for those planes making the cut in the next version. If it's any comfort... HTC has seemed to be going back in time now with thier new planes...
Not sure how you folks got things done over there... but don't be arses. HTC are a few people that are makin' a pretty cool sim. The CM team are players that are trying to make stuff for people to fly in. There's no official liason or spokesperson or community manager or anything like that... that you would need to do battle with. K? Whatcha got in mind exactly?
[ 10-27-2001: Message edited by: Nash ]
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Geez ... now I gotta edit too.
The new idea is the Spanish Civil War. Uberbipes and first generation metal monoplanes with retracting gear. Bombers that could outrun most of the fighters. A dogfighter's paradise. :)
Tilting at windmills never stopped those who came before me. Some of them even got a thing or two accomplished. But not by themselves. Get 10 people interested and you have a good thinktank. Get 100 interested and you've got possibilities. I'll settle for a thinktank now and possibilites later.
:D
Originally posted by Nash:
Always open to new ideas... whatcha got in mind?
Keep in mind that we *can* get new terrains whipped up, but getting planes built is a quite a bit more problematic, obviously. The CMs make a list of planes they want, some get in, some don't. It's better that you design anything with the planes we've already got and keep yer fingers crossed for those planes making the cut in the next version. If it's any comfort... HTC has seemed to be going back in time now with thier new planes..
[ 10-27-2001: Message edited by: Nash ]
[ 10-28-2001: Message edited by: Arlo ]
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Hehe you saw that post before I got a chance (which took 2 secs) to reread what I wrote and decide to edit it.
Sorry about that. Was my initial reaction. Not a good one... yah... but what the hell. You two struck me as coming on a lil strong. Thas ok... But seriously... whatcha have in mind?
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To paraphrase then
A couple of special event gurus from air warrior show up here being twits on week one of their accounts that they only started cause their game got toasted. They imply by their posts and flames that events are all wrong here and that they are being refrained from using their god given talents by the narrow minded existing comunity.
The planes they need are missing.
The event que is full but flawed.
They probably havent participated in a single event here but they are going to fix it all if we give them the cr42 like they deserve.
What was it happend to their other game?
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Paraphrasing isn't your strong suit. :D
Originally posted by Pongo:
To paraphrase then
A couple of special event gurus from air warrior show up here being twits on week one of their accounts that they only started cause their game got toasted. They imply by their posts and flames that events are all wrong here and that they are being refrained from using their god given talents by the narrow minded existing comunity.
The planes they need are missing.
The event que is full but flawed.
They probably havent participated in a single event here but they are going to fix it all if we give them the cr42 like they deserve.
What was it happend to their other game?
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:D No prob ... I edited too. Answer above.
Originally posted by Nash:
Hehe you saw that post before I got a chance (which took 2 secs) to reread what I wrote and decide to edit it.
Sorry about that. Was my initial reaction. Not a good one... yah... but what the hell. You two struck me as coming on a lil strong. Thas ok... But seriously... whatcha have in mind?
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Originally posted by Pongo:
To paraphrase then
A couple of special event gurus from air warrior show up here being twits on week one of their accounts that they only started cause their game got toasted. They imply by their posts and flames that events are all wrong here and that they are being refrained from using their god given talents by the narrow minded existing comunity.
The planes they need are missing.
The event que is full but flawed.
They probably havent participated in a single event here but they are going to fix it all if we give them the cr42 like they deserve.
What was it happend to their other game?
Christ some of you people are so diddlying defensive as to be unreal and you have been as long as I have been checking (and playing when I have the funds)no matter wether someone came from Warbirds, Air Warrior or Bunny Luv for that matter.
Lighten up for cods sake, 15 years of experience with scenarios is nothing to snort at, especially in combination with the kick bellybutton design team HTC has.
None of the concerns about the way events are planned and run is new, nor are any of the jibes meant to be insulting or"dripping in sarcasm".
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Originally posted by Kieran:
I don't think these guys mean anything at all by their comments- in fact, I think Roto's first post was merely his way of saying "Hello" to old friends he knew were here. That people misunderstood and laid into him just made it all the better for him. Think of this as the equivalent of chute-shooting in the game. It is done to get a rise, but isn't really mean spirited.
<sniffles>
That was beautiful man. I think, I think I love you.
In a manly way ofcourse.
<smooch>
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First off you folks need to not get your panties in a wad so easy. You need to read between the lines and notice adult humor when you see it. These folks have known each other for more then 10 years, in the same sim. And they happen to treat each other like family.
Second these folks you call newbies and prolly never flew an event *here*, prolly designed more then you have flown. I would suggest you are prolly defensive because they may actually know more about it then you.
Third, if it's so damn easy to get a hold of the events team then point the poor guy to the button thats says "contact events team".
>What was it happend to their other game?
Wow that was our fault right? And your last sim is where and lasted how long>?? That's prolly your fault. <G> j\k
Litghten up francis,.. sheeesh Who's getting worked up>?
Animal (AW Flying Tigers)
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Look some of you new AW guys.
Don't come in here yellin' and screamin' and demanding to be taken seriously. You have to earn that, and complaining about AH or its community isn't a good way of doing it.
I mean, you've even made me a bit annoyed. Just chill, stop treating this place like its your own (it ain't) and behave like adults.
New community - so that means you don't have the same status or position as in the old one. Don't whine about that - work on it instead. And, don't work on it by whining about it :).
Just chill.
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And don't make StSanta mad or you will get nothing for christmas :)))
Welcome all AW pilots,i was shocked to hear that AW went down,it gives me cold sweats thinking how i would feel if HTC were all swept up by a cyclone and there was no more Aces High,look forward to seeing ya all in the skies :)
Steely,DHBG
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Originally posted by StSanta:
Look some of you new AW guys.
Don't come in here yellin' and screamin' and demanding to be taken seriously. You have to earn that, and complaining about AH or its community isn't a good way of doing it.
I mean, you've even made me a bit annoyed. Just chill, stop treating this place like its your own (it ain't) and behave like adults.
New community - so that means you don't have the same status or position as in the old one. Don't whine about that - work on it instead. And, don't work on it by whining about it :).
Just chill.
For 14.95 a month, it's just as much thiers as it is your's, status is pretty much the same too :)
Tumor
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nah it aint.
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Is so! :cool:
Hehe, it'll all work out and AH will be better for it.
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Is not!
erhm.. whatever it is... Kieren, it's been awhile since we did battle... can't remeber what the reasons were before but who cares... that fact is... is that I am right and you are so clearly wrong.
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The reason? Simple; you refused to acknowledge my obvious and extensive intellectual superiority. It's cool though, I'm used to it by now. ;)
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I am all for getting new players into the game and all but you and your little buddy Arlo havent exactly gone about things the right way, imo. You come in taking pot-shots at the game calling it Aces Hoes and stuff like that and now you are looking for a favorable reaction from the crowd here? Sure you laugh it off and say that its all in good humor, but seriously, what would your reaction have been if we had done the same while you were over there in AW?
I called it Aces Hoes? Hmm, didn't know that..
My reaction woulda been like it is now, hehe. And, I woulda called you a troll...
Aub
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See how it is, New folks come in and everyone is shook up. Thats Healthy :D
I came from AW, though it was like 6 months ago. Iv got to defend these guys some.
Perhaps they have ruffled some feathers, but they are not exactly unknown. Some of the New arrivals this week are guys that were loyal until the bitter end. These are the Salwart, hardworking player and exstaff. Many of them have had over 10years of flying and working with AW.
I think as you get to know them, I think there passion for FlightSims, Aviation History, and Aircraft will rival the best anywhere.
These arent the dweebs that some are painting them as. This group isnt the type to jump from place to place. They will be putting down roots. Many of these Men and Women will contribute alot this game.
Here is the thing, Aces High, HiTech Creation and the AH community will all end-up benifeting from their join the community here.
Just my humble opinion
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Originally posted by StSanta:
New community - so that means you don't have the same status or position as in the old one. Don't whine about that - work on it instead.
Just chill.
Yup. Chill guys. Don't anybody jump to conclusions about the new guys in town or the community already here. I'm a relative newcomer to online flight sims but I've been in AH a little while so when new names come onto the board and start trying to change things before they have given them a chance even I get protective of little ol' HTC.
AW Guys, consider this: You DO have talents and experience to offer AH as a whole. What you do NOT have is the respect of most of the players.
Why? Because they do not know you.
Solution: Take the time to let people get to know you in here before complaining that you aren't understood or appreciated. Don't try to make things happen your way on day one.
As Santa said: chill :cool:
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My sincere apologies Aub...I confused you with some other chap by the name of Rotorian. Sorry...its just hard to tell you guys apart...you all sound alike. ;)
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Hehe ... that's some perception problem, there. Hell ... I don't even use the "UBB sucks purple monkey balls" tagline. (Even though it does.) ;)
Originally posted by sling322:
Sorry...its just hard to tell you guys apart...you all sound alike. ;)
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Please Please Please, let them revive AW :rolleyes:
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:D (http://www.dailywav.com/1099/disgruntled.wav)
Originally posted by Apar1:
Please Please Please, let them revive AW :rolleyes:
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Just out of curiosity, is it a AW custom to quote every single post before (or after) replying to it?
I mean I understand you do it when there's allot of posts in between your reply and the one you want to reply to or when you want to reply to a certain phrase, but many times it's really not necessary (IMHO)
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Is this a pet peeve of yours? :)
Originally posted by Apar1:
Just out of curiosity, is it a AW custom to quote every single post before (or after) replying to it?
I mean I understand you do it when there's allot of posts in between your reply and the one you want to reply to or when you want to reply to a certain phrase, but many times it's really not necessary (IMHO)
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If ya don't like it, just file it under the tab "Humor" (seems like the AW way)
:D
Ohhh bummer I forgot to quote you, hmmmmm (will he know who I'm talking to???)
[ 10-29-2001: Message edited by: Apar1 ]