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Title: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: BaronVonDeath on November 01, 2017, 08:39:52 AM
I think it's time to make the F4uC free no perk.

My reasons, there are many better planes that are free. Granted the guns are good but not perk good. The NIKI and TYH, have good 20mm's also. The F4C is slow, D9, La7, 47M Fast with good guns, they are free. I'm glad to see the Spit 14 free, that was another plane I didn't think warranted perks.

Well, what's the consensus?
Title: Re: F4uC
Post by: Max on November 01, 2017, 08:44:44 AM
Your point is well taken but it really doesn't matter what the consensus is; it's Hitech's call. Make a reasonable argument with him and perhaps he'll unperk it. Bribe's have been known to work, too.  :devil
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: BaronVonDeath on November 01, 2017, 08:46:36 AM
LOL, I know it's his choice, just hoping enough members like the idea and he see's the response. :) 
Title: Re: F4uC
Post by: Volron on November 01, 2017, 08:49:38 AM
You are forgetting something: The 1C has a the ability to carry rockets and bombs, enough for a hanger at least.  The D9, La7 and 47M cannot carry a thing compared to the 1C.
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Vraciu on November 01, 2017, 08:50:05 AM
I'm for it.   C Hogs are easy prey.   I like my kills like I like my women--easy.    :rofl

:cheers:
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: pangea on November 01, 2017, 08:50:17 AM
No thanks.  It was unperked in the past and they were everywhere.  As it is now it doesn't cost much if you want to fly it, but the perk does keep the numbers down to a reasonable level.
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Spikes on November 01, 2017, 08:57:43 AM
It would be the only plane ever flown off a CV.
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Vraciu on November 01, 2017, 09:03:13 AM
It would be the only plane ever flown off a CV.

Not by me.  I'd take an FM-2.

But shooting down C Hogs off the boat?   Glorious!
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Delirium on November 01, 2017, 09:04:51 AM
I remember the days of seeing C-Hawgs dominating the environment. I doubt the perk cost would be removed in light of that, but good luck with this request!
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: zack1234 on November 01, 2017, 09:14:53 AM
Is this about perks?
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: atlau on November 01, 2017, 09:21:56 AM
C hogs have a very k/d. Probably a bad idea.
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Wiley on November 01, 2017, 09:33:36 AM
If memory serves, wasn't the C hog the reason the perk system was created?  When it was introduced the skies turned blue?

Wiley.
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: waystin2 on November 01, 2017, 09:34:45 AM
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Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: wil3ur on November 01, 2017, 09:51:21 AM
14 perks is too much?

I don't think the plane is going to help you in this instance.  You might want to learn to fly, then perks won't be an issue.   :old:
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: hitech on November 01, 2017, 10:19:29 AM
The C hog was originally not perked. It my memory is correct , it was dominating to the extent of 35% of all sorties were the C Hog.

So no, it's not going to happen.

HiTech
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: JOACH1M on November 01, 2017, 10:22:59 AM
The C hog was originally not perked. It my memory is correct , it was dominating to the extent of 35% of all sorties were the C Hog.

So no, it's not going to happen.

HiTech
Thank you
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: bustr on November 01, 2017, 11:00:53 AM
The perk on this thing is so light, you could fly a perk farmer for a few days and harass the arena with one for a few more days. Wonder why he didn't ask for the 4Hog which would be an all around better ride for Melee arena combat. I keep running into HO experts all the time these days when one dives at me. :O
Title: Re: F4uC
Post by: Traveler on November 01, 2017, 11:20:51 AM
You are forgetting something: The 1C has a the ability to carry rockets and bombs, enough for a hanger at least.  The D9, La7 and 47M cannot carry a thing compared to the 1C.
Just an fyi, the P47M is not available in AHIII.  I think it was available in AHII.   The N version is available and carries much more ord than the C Hog.
Title: Re: F4uC
Post by: Wiley on November 01, 2017, 11:25:59 AM
Just an fyi, the P47M is not available in AHIII.

 :headscratch: Unless this is some backhanded "It's not technically a P47M" thing, the M is most certainly available in AHIII.

Wiley.
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Becinhu on November 01, 2017, 11:32:19 AM
Just an fyi, the P47M is not available in AHIII.  I think it was available in AHII.   The N version is available and carries much more ord than the C Hog.

Ummm the 47m is more prevalent than spits in AHIII. If it’s a 47, about a 90% chance it’s a M. Now as for a c-hog, it’s a D with 20s. And it’s perked because of those 20s. Now as for a dog fighter both the 1A and the 4 far outclass it. The 20s make it a better assassin because you only needs one or two pings to remove a wing. Keep it perked....and I fly hogs most of the time.


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Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Lusche on November 01, 2017, 11:35:40 AM
A very quick way to check for air to air 'dominance' in the arena is to look at Kills-Deaths.

This is the Air to Air K-D chart for tour 14, shortly before the perk system was fully installed:

(https://i.imgur.com/VZLA25z.png)
(Yes, it's actually been a 'G-10' taking up the Bf 109-K4 slot back then)
Title: Re: F4uC
Post by: Devil 505 on November 01, 2017, 11:51:53 AM
Just an fyi, the P47M is not available in AHIII.  I think it was available in AHII.   The N version is available and carries much more ord than the C Hog.

Looks like somebody has the "Attack" tab selected in the hangar.
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: BaronVonDeath on November 01, 2017, 11:55:28 AM
Oh well worth a try lolol Thanks for the replies :)
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Randy1 on November 01, 2017, 12:11:29 PM
The C hog is dirt cheap anyway.  For just a few more perks you get the tempest which is a much better ride.
Title: Re: F4uC
Post by: Traveler on November 01, 2017, 12:47:00 PM
Looks like somebody has the "Attack" tab selected in the hangar.
Here you go:
https://www.mediafire.com/view/p365p6057bjp5vc/aceshigh11%202017-11-01%2013-22-31-58.bmp (https://www.mediafire.com/view/p365p6057bjp5vc/aceshigh11%202017-11-01%2013-22-31-58.bmp)

Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Wiley on November 01, 2017, 12:51:31 PM
Yep.  At the top you've got the "Attack" tab selected.

Wiley.
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Mister Fork on November 01, 2017, 12:56:27 PM
Yep.  At the top you've got the "Attack" tab selected.

Wiley.
Oh yaaaa.  Yaah needs to select the Fighter tab eh? Den yer all good for the P47M.  She's a beaut.
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Krusty on November 01, 2017, 12:58:01 PM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z6JjV2ZWK1A/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: F4uC
Post by: Lusche on November 01, 2017, 01:02:33 PM
Just an fyi, the P47M is not available in AHIII.

You never wondered about the 47M's shooting you down? :noid
Title: Re: F4uC
Post by: 100Coogn on November 01, 2017, 01:10:00 PM
Looks like somebody has the "Attack" tab selected in the hangar.

(https://i.imgur.com/SvvJ4Zu.jpg)

Coogan
Title: Re: F4uC
Post by: Traveler on November 01, 2017, 02:20:25 PM
You never wondered about the 47M's shooting you down? :noid

I don't see it on my clipboard, I have it scored as Fighter and it only lists the 47N.  Can't pick what I can't see.
Title: Re: F4uC
Post by: Krusty on November 01, 2017, 02:23:26 PM
I don't see it on my clipboard, I have it scored as Fighter and it only lists the 47N.  Can't pick what I can't see.


You're not getting it. Not the button on how you want to score it. Look at the TOP above the names of the planes there are header tabs that pre-sort and filter out options. Fighter, bomber, ATTACK. The P-47M only shows up under the pure fighter tab, regardless of how you hit the button to score it. You need to hit the little "all" tab to show all the planes, tanks, boats, etc.

P.S. There are nearly 100 planes in this game. EVERYTHING you see here:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/21-flight-sim/world-war-two-planes/49-planes-of-aces-high

Is in the game, for anybody to use. If you don't see it, change your filter at the top of the plane list in the hangar.
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Wiley on November 01, 2017, 02:24:24 PM
Onc
I don't see it on my clipboard, I have it scored as Fighter and it only lists the 47N.  Can't pick what I can't see.

Once again, if you look at the top of the screen, there is an "All" tab, then one called "Fighter".  After that comes the one you have selected in that picture labeled "Attack".  If you click either the "All" tab or the "Fighter" tab, the P47M will appear.

Wiley.
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Traveler on November 01, 2017, 02:30:41 PM
Onc
Once again, if you look at the top of the screen, there is an "All" tab, then one called "Fighter".  After that comes the one you have selected in that picture labeled "Attack".  If you click either the "All" tab or the "Fighter" tab, the P47M will appear.

Wiley.

Right, Attack, the category that Volron was talking about, how the 1C can carry more rockets and bombs than the 47M, which is not an attack aircraft, he's comparing apples and oranges.
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Krusty on November 01, 2017, 02:33:51 PM
Right, Attack, the category that Volron was talking about, how the 1C can carry more rockets and bombs than the 47M, which is not an attack aircraft, he's comparing apples and oranges.

Okay, then you said the 47M wasn't even in the game. I think that spawned all the confusion. Volron meant the 47N. Everybody else was questioning your sanity for a second.
Title: Re: FREE up the F4uC
Post by: Lusche on November 01, 2017, 02:34:29 PM
Right, Attack, the category that Volron was talking about, how the 1C can carry more rockets and bombs than the 47M, which is not an attack aircraft, he's comparing apples and oranges.


You claimed the 47M was available in AHII but not AHIII.
That's just wrong. They were /are available in both versions in the very same way.