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Title: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: RODBUSTR on December 05, 2017, 04:08:40 PM
   Playing with the 37mm on the airbases.   found out they are  impotent against low flying deakakkers when the opforce figured out to line up with the trees around the gun emplacement. the planes can easily shoot You and You don't have a chance because the trees block  Your shot.   Why the love affair with trees anyway. also no base would have a tree where there is a chance of a plane hitting it while taxiing, taking off or landing  or blocking defensive weapons...   I have brought This up before and someone posted picks of an airfield in a forest. probably a Luftlaffe one or . That field was not an airbase and most likely stuck in the timber to hide It from Allied air attacks. Or a NATO Harrier Field and That would  most likely have air to air missiles for defense not guns.  Nothing like the "airbases" modeled here.    sidenote another reason trees weren't around WW2 bases was because the cut them up for firewood.
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: 100Coogn on December 05, 2017, 04:14:08 PM
   Playing with the 37mm on the airbases.   found out they are  impotent against low flying deakakkers when the opforce figured out to line up with the trees around the gun emplacement. the planes can easily shoot You and You don't have a chance because the trees block  Your shot.   Why the love affair with trees anyway. also no base would have a tree where there is a chance of a plane hitting it while taxiing, taking off or landing  or blocking defensive weapons...   I have brought This up before and someone posted picks of an airfield in a forest. probably a Luftlaffe one or . That field was not an airbase and most likely stuck in the timber to hide It from Allied air attacks. Or a NATO Harrier Field and That would  most likely have air to air missiles for defense not guns.  Nothing like the "airbases" modeled here.    sidenote another reason trees weren't around WW2 bases was because the cut them up for firewood.

I can agree with this.  There are too many trees in this game.
Add to that, if you have shadows enables there goes your frame-rate...  Each tree needs one...

Coogan
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: Copprhed on December 05, 2017, 04:15:50 PM
This reminds me of Solieri saying to Mozart...."It's got too many notes..." :bolt:
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: 100Coogn on December 05, 2017, 04:19:26 PM
This reminds me of Solieri saying to Mozart...."It's got too many notes..." :bolt:

You think all these trees are artwork.   :rofl

Coogan
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: 1stpar3 on December 05, 2017, 04:23:12 PM
The trees have little effect, at least when I use them. Seriously! Even with 88s AA rounds. Aim at nearest tree top and fire. YES the explosion goes off on impact BUT lean around and watch the round continue flying to set range and STILL GOES POOF. Same with wirb,37mm and tank rounds. The bigger tree trunks however will stop rounds but brush and leaves not so much. BEFORE you call BS...try it for yourself :uhoh Its just my observations. It looks like it explodes, but round carries on.
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: Zoney on December 05, 2017, 05:12:19 PM
The number of trees isn't affecting my ability to fight airplanes in another airplane. 

Oh wait Rodbuster, you want to sit on the ground and shoot at airplnes..................... ........................ppppf ffffffffffffffftttttttttt
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: puller on December 05, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
The number of trees isn't affecting my ability to fight airplanes in another airplane. 

Oh wait Rodbuster, you want to sit on the ground and shoot at airplnes..................... ........................ppppf ffffffffffffffftttttttttt

 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: EagleDNY on December 05, 2017, 08:27:57 PM
My beef is having tree leaves stop an 88mm shell flying at a tank that is shelling the base.  Give me a break.  If you can't model the trees being destroyed by the 88mm round so that the next one blasts him sky high, at least have the decency to make shells pass right through trees and brush. 
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: hgtonyvi on December 06, 2017, 01:07:54 AM
Hey rodbuster, you forgot to type that in CAPS LOCK..... :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: Dundee on December 06, 2017, 02:29:31 PM
   Playing with the 37mm on the airbases.   found out they are  impotent against low flying deakakkers when the opforce figured out to line up with the trees around the gun emplacement. the planes can easily shoot You and You don't have a chance because the trees block  Your shot.   Why the love affair with trees anyway. also no base would have a tree where there is a chance of a plane hitting it while taxiing, taking off or landing  or blocking defensive weapons...   I have brought This up before and someone posted picks of an airfield in a forest. probably a Luftlaffe one or . That field was not an airbase and most likely stuck in the timber to hide It from Allied air attacks. Or a NATO Harrier Field and That would  most likely have air to air missiles for defense not guns.  Nothing like the "airbases" modeled here.    sidenote another reason trees weren't around WW2 bases was because the cut them up for firewood.

I bet it was some fur-baller years ago who complained how unfair it was for a defensive 37mm AA to have an unfair advantage with a clear field of fire.......
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: JunkyII on December 06, 2017, 06:41:44 PM
Dundee is just stupid...just flat out stupid.
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: RODBUSTR on December 06, 2017, 08:32:04 PM
  Zoney. Trolling on Me for engaging in ground to air play is both laughable and sad...     From the looks of Your stats. I'm playing air to air more than You anyway. 
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: RODBUSTR on December 06, 2017, 08:35:29 PM
    I didn't forget to use caps.   Kind trollish too.
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: palef on December 06, 2017, 08:38:16 PM
This reminds me of Solieri saying to Mozart...."It's got too many notes..." :bolt:

"Salieri". You're confusing him with that guy from "The Sopranos".
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: BBQsam on December 07, 2017, 01:45:37 AM
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Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: BBQsam on December 07, 2017, 02:00:01 AM
This reminds me of Solieri saying to Mozart...."It's got too many notes..." :bolt:

Copprhed  what are you saying???



This is RODBUSTR..........?.........
(https://vjmorton.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/amadeussalieri.jpg)



..............and this is Hitech?
(https://dejareviewer.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/wolfgang-amadeus-mozart-is-a-shameless-womanizer-but-he-produces-majestic-music.jpg)

 


:rofl



"RODBUSTR", "Hitech",  and the -  "battle of the trees",,,,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ciFTP_KRy4
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: RODBUSTR on December 07, 2017, 12:42:57 PM
    More trolls. You confuse conversation  actually correspondence. with some kind of battle,  I'm discussing increasing a level of more realistic sim or game play.  anf You are just  bashing  a player for an input that may make It a more enjoyable place to waste Their time and maybe increase Hitech's bottom line.
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: Zoney on December 07, 2017, 12:57:33 PM
RodBuster my friend, it's a joke, and kind of a funny one too.  Ease up a bit and you will probably have a better conversation with your fellow players.

My earlier dig was meant in fun too, I wasn't disparaging you personally or at least that wasn't my intent, I apologize.  I didn't want you to be mad about it.
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: Mister Fork on December 07, 2017, 01:09:35 PM
Guys, stop trolling rod. Jebus. Give him a break.

He makes a good point.  AAA (any AAA from 88's to 37's) should not have their rounds stopped by trees or leaves.  Period. It's kinda gameplay ruining.  And I agree it on both not just sides for tanks AND AAA settings.  It's frustrating to have a HE 88 round be stopped by a bush. It's like "COME ON!"

Conversely, a Stuka, or any anti-tank aircraft shouldn't have it's gazooka cannons stopped by silly tree leaves or a branch.

But - shouldn't this be in the Wishlist?

And guys, seriously. stop trolling this. It's a legit post.
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: hitech on December 07, 2017, 01:22:01 PM
Guys, stop trolling rod. Jebus. Give him a break.

He makes a good point.  AAA (any AAA from 88's to 37's) should not have their rounds stopped by trees or leaves.  Period. It's kinda gameplay ruining.  And I agree it on both not just sides for tanks AND AAA settings.  It's frustrating to have a HE 88 round be stopped by a bush. It's like "COME ON!"

Conversely, a Stuka, or any anti-tank aircraft shouldn't have it's gazooka cannons stopped by silly tree leaves or a branch.

But - shouldn't this be in the Wishlist?

And guys, seriously. stop trolling this. It's a legit post.

Leaves do not stop weapons. If you see leaves but no flash, the weapon continued on threw the trees.

HiTech
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: Copprhed on December 07, 2017, 01:33:20 PM
Come on folks, can't ya'll at least come up with a chuckle? it was funny! I have been working on shooting through the trees while in a GV and actually, you CAN figure out what will or won't stop a shot. Rather than just say something is wrong, try to work around it, or maybe find out that it's not the problem you thought. I don't find the trees to be an issue, except that if there is even one in an empty field, I WILL run into it!   :banana: :x
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: fuzeman on December 07, 2017, 10:42:20 PM
Leaves do not stop weapons. If you see leaves but no flash, the weapon continued on threw the trees.

HiTech

Annoy the owner time..... wouldn't the round, ammo, or projectile [  :D  ] continue through the tree opposed to the weapon itself?

[ This thought now enters HiTech's coconut..... I wish fuzeman would leaf me alone!!! ]

 :bolt:
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: hitech on December 08, 2017, 08:39:35 AM
Annoy the owner time..... wouldn't the round, ammo, or projectile [  :D  ] continue through the tree opposed to the weapon itself?

[ This thought now enters HiTech's coconut..... I wish fuzeman would leaf me alone!!! ]

 :bolt:

Thats because I'm not just talking about rounds, also bombs and rockets.

HiTech
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: John Galt on December 11, 2017, 06:35:49 PM
My main issue with the trees stems from them being magnetic, or having 20' diameter trunk. There has been several times I have hit trees, only to become hopelessly stuck to it. The only thing that seems to get you untangled is supps.
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: RODBUSTR on December 11, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
  My main issue with the trees is field of vision.  A plane can line up on Your gun position and You can't see them, but They can surely see You...  I did have an incident  with a warble. shooting at a plane close to trees, as I traversed I shot a tree and It killed me.  It would be nice to change death by tree bark in gvs.  Also Zoney, Virtually all jokes or so called jokes come at the expense of  someone.  To execute one properly,  It takes taste, tact and timing... apparently You lack  those attributes.    :)    see the smiley face... that means i'm just joking...
Title: Re: common sense... a clear field of fire for defensive weapons.
Post by: RELIC on December 11, 2017, 09:12:21 PM
This reminds me of Solieri saying to Mozart...."It's got too many notes..." :bolt:
:aok