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Title: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 14, 2017, 03:16:56 PM
*Skuzzy* if this post violates any TOS please delete this

I am an almost 70 yr old combat infantryman. I have seen my share of death having participated on the ground with a rifle platoon during both phases of the TET offensive in 1968. Nothing but nothing prepared me for 4 o:clock this morning.

My 20 yr old pregnant grandaughter carrying my great-grandson for 23 weeks went abruptly and unexpectantly into pre-term labor. The Doctors could not halt it and my great-grandson was born almost 4 months early. Not enough mature body systems to keep him alive and my grandaughter was told no real chance for survival at less than 20%, and if by a miracle he did survive a pretty well 100% chance he would never leave the hospital.

The pain as a grandfather watching my grandaughter holding this tiny less than a pound and a half infant to her until he drew his last breath in just under an hour is indescribable. She was much stronger than I as I have been reduced to a molten wreck just 11 days before Christmas.

I opened a gofund me for her as she lost her job early in the pregnancy (because of the pregnancy) and her fiance holds a low paying service job.  If anyone wishes to help so she can pay funeral costs that would be great. Otherwise a prayer for heavens newest angel that arrived at their gate early this morning will be greatly appreciated.

Great Grandson Fundme page (https://www.gofundme.com/great-grandsons-burial)
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: Karnak on December 14, 2017, 03:54:00 PM
I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your great grandson.  You and your family are in my thoughts.

Financial stress should not be something your granddaughter has to think of at a time like this.  Employment termination due to pregnancy is illegal.  If she can prove that is why she lost her job she has a very strong case against her former employer.
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 14, 2017, 03:58:51 PM
I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your great grandson.  You and your family are in my thoughts.

Financial stress should not be something your granddaughter has to think of at a time like this.  Employment termination due to pregnancy is illegal.  If she can prove that is why she lost her job she has a very strong case against her former employer.

Thank You Karnak.

Her employer tried to block her unemployment claim and messed up during the appeal hearing verifying to the judge they told my granddaughter she was welcome to re-apply for her position after the baby was born. Judge denied their appeal and I am working her to file an EEOC claim.
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: nrshida on December 14, 2017, 04:59:01 PM
I am very sorry for your family's loss brother. We also had our son born prematurely at 28 weeks and were fortunate he survived. Four of his neighbours also did not. The cruelty or indifference of nature is at its most confronting in the NICU units with those tiny innocent creatures. I will pray in my own way for that little soul.

Sterkte.

 :salute

Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 14, 2017, 05:08:09 PM
I am very sorry for your family's loss brother. We also had our son born prematurely at 28 weeks and were fortunate he survived. Four of his neighbours also did not. The cruelty or indifference of nature is at its most confronting in the NICU units with those tiny innocent creatures. I will pray in my own way for that little soul.

Sterkte.

 :salute

Thank you so much for the kind words. It is hard to see ones so tiny in such difficulty. Thank you for your prayers. :salute
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: DubiousKB on December 15, 2017, 08:55:52 AM
Sorry for your loss sir. I was comforted seeing that the funeral home will cover most of the cost for an infant service... Hope you reach your goal to make this time a little easier for you and yours.

 :salute and be strong.
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 15, 2017, 09:24:49 AM
Sorry for your loss sir. I was comforted seeing that the funeral home will cover most of the cost for an infant service... Hope you reach your goal to make this time a little easier for you and yours.

 :salute and be strong.
Thank you Sir.
In making the arrangements for my granddaughter I as well was so relieved and surprised at their generosity. Since we took her to a hospital just over the state line they even are travelling to pick up the little guy to bring him to the local facility for her so when she gets home from the hospital she won't have to travel again.
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: BFOOT1 on December 15, 2017, 09:45:43 AM
I was born premature as well, and considered much of a miracle. I am sorry for your loss Red, I wish there was more I could do and say to help comfort both of you during this time.
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 15, 2017, 10:14:53 AM
I was born premature as well, and considered much of a miracle. I am sorry for your loss Red, I wish there was more I could do and say to help comfort both of you during this time.
Thank you. I always assumed when you hit great grandparent stage you expect to be immune to the closeness and direct pain of something like this. But, since my wife and I pretty well raised this granddaughter since she was 4 months old, this loss of her baby hit especially hard. Thank you for your kind words.
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: Copprhed on December 15, 2017, 01:36:53 PM
No amount of physical or time distance can shield you from the pain of a loss of a loved one, especially in a situation such as yours. You have my heartfelt condolences, redcatcher, and your granddaughter also. You will all be in my prayers this Christmas season.
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 15, 2017, 02:45:52 PM
No amount of physical or time distance can shield you from the pain of a loss of a loved one, especially in a situation such as yours. You have my heartfelt condolences, redcatcher, and your granddaughter also. You will all be in my prayers this Christmas season.
Thank You Copprhed, that's very true. The loss would feel the same anywhere, anytime. I think being there to witness the anguish of the grandaughter we raised as she held the baby against her wishing beyond hope for the impossible for her baby was one of the hardest things i've  seen and i've seen a bit in my years. Thank you for the condolences and prayers.  :salute
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: TheBug on December 15, 2017, 07:27:26 PM
Very sorry Red for your family's loss and pain.  I hope you are still able to find joy this holiday season for the blessings you still have.   :salute
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 15, 2017, 09:35:32 PM
Very sorry Red for your family's loss and pain.  I hope you are still able to find joy this holiday season for the blessings you still have.   :salute
Thank You Bug, we will always make room for positives. With 3 daughters, 10 grandchildren and 1 great grandchild my wife and I can still find plenty of room for the holidays for them within the pain. We just tell the younger ones that heaven needed another Angel for Christmas and find a little peace with that thought.   :salute
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: JimmyD3 on December 16, 2017, 01:09:02 PM
So sorry to hear of your loss. We will keep you and your family in prayer sir. :salute

 :pray
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 16, 2017, 01:25:56 PM
So sorry to hear of your loss. We will keep you and your family in prayer sir. :salute

 :pray

Thank you Jimmy, prayers are so needed and welcome believe me.   :salute
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: caldera on December 16, 2017, 01:38:19 PM
Heartbreaking story, Red.  I'm so very sorry for you and your family.
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 16, 2017, 02:23:03 PM
Heartbreaking story, Red.  I'm so very sorry for you and your family.
Thank you, hard time for sure. We have the granddaughter home from the hospital and hope to have all arrangments finished soon so the healing/closure can begin.  Thanks for the thoughts sir. :salute
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: Arlo on December 16, 2017, 06:48:00 PM
I wish there was more Kelly and I could do but commiserate and pray, RC.
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 16, 2017, 06:53:28 PM
I wish there was more Kelly and I could do but commiserate and pray, RC.
Prayers for the innocents especially infants go a long way towards healing the pain Arlo. I will forward yours and Kelly's to Dorothy.   Thank You   :salute
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 18, 2017, 01:45:09 PM
*Skuzzy*

You can lock or delete this thread if you wish as we finished all arrangements for my great-grandson  :pray this morning and disposition of his remains will be completed by tomorrow.

Thank you to all the AH community for their prayers, donations and condolences, and to the over 300 views of the thread that contributed untold prayers for the little guy.

You folks are all great ..   :salute
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: flippz on December 18, 2017, 04:29:56 PM
sorry to hear this red, Christmas or not I cant imagine going through that.  I wish the best for your family and her.

 :salute
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 18, 2017, 04:37:57 PM
Thank You Flippz.    :salute 

Unexpected events like this are never easy to understand, the young parents have it the worst and we are keeping close to them during this time.

On Edit:  On behalf of my Grandaughter and Great Grandson sir,  Thank You !
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: morfiend on December 18, 2017, 05:09:31 PM
 :pray




         :salute
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: FLS on December 18, 2017, 05:43:02 PM
My condolences for your loss.
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 18, 2017, 06:04:03 PM
:pray




         :salute
Thank You so much Morfiend   :salute
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: redcatcherb412 on December 18, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
My condolences for your loss.
Thank You  FLS   :salute

AH crew is awesome.
Title: Re: Definition of pain
Post by: Skuzzy on December 19, 2017, 08:55:39 AM
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