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Title: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: swareiam on December 24, 2017, 11:40:22 PM
Okay Scenario Fans!

The two finalist from the preliminary vote were;

A) Nuisance Raids 1942

and

G) Battle of Crimea/Kuban region 1943

Choice "A" had already be well defined, but the scenario team had to put in some research time on choice "G". From the research on the vast battlefield of the eastern Black Sea region, a more well defined choice "G" is listed for your final vote along with choice "A" below;

A) Nuisance Raids 1942
RAF and Luftwaffe trading blows following Battle of Britain.
Fighter combat, attack, tactical bombing.
Luftwaffe: Bf109F-4, Bf109G-2, Fw190A-5, JU88A-4
RAF: Spitfire V, Spitfire IX, Hurricane IIB, Typhoon IB, Boston III

or

G) The Battle of the Western Kuban

Soviet forces counterattack along a wide area on the Eastern Front southwest of Stalingrad in early 1943.
Air to Air combat, Dive bombing, low level attack and level bombing.
Luftwaffe: Bf109G-2, Bf109G-6, FW190A-5, JU87D-3, Bf110G-2, HE111H
VVS: Yak-7B, Yak-9T, La-5FN, P-39D, Spitfire V, IL-2, A-20G, Boston III

Please place your vote here for the February 2018 Scenario. The final tally will be taken and the event will be decided on January 1, 2018.

Thanks again for your participation.

 :salute
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Devil 505 on December 25, 2017, 01:29:51 AM
G
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Spikes on December 25, 2017, 08:05:55 AM
G please!
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Dace on December 25, 2017, 08:08:45 AM
G
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: swareiam on December 25, 2017, 09:11:50 AM
All,

A minor chance. We are going to transition the P-39D to the P-39Q on the VVS side.

Cheers...
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: APDrone on December 25, 2017, 10:11:10 AM
G

For the HE111, of course.  :)
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Chris79 on December 25, 2017, 12:02:38 PM
G!
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Bruv119 on December 25, 2017, 04:58:28 PM
A!!
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: JunkyII on December 25, 2017, 05:05:31 PM
G
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: puller on December 25, 2017, 05:20:40 PM
G
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Kanth on December 25, 2017, 05:25:10 PM
G
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: FBDragon on December 25, 2017, 05:26:41 PM
G  :salute
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: thrila on December 26, 2017, 06:40:34 AM
A
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: BFOOT1 on December 26, 2017, 01:39:31 PM
G!
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: pope14 on December 26, 2017, 02:10:16 PM
G
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: AKKuya on December 26, 2017, 03:22:07 PM
A


That way there could be no confusion.
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: wil3ur on December 26, 2017, 04:29:41 PM
I would say G except for the spitfire.  Not sure how that lines up with the soviet plane set.  Is it taking the place of a model we don't have, if so which one and why?
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Bruv119 on December 26, 2017, 04:30:12 PM
I would say G except for the spitfire.  Not sure how that lines up with the soviet plane set.  Is it taking the place of a model we don't have, if so which one and why?

Lend lease bro.  Prob not best to discuss it in this voting thread.   
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: JOACH1M on December 26, 2017, 04:36:13 PM
A
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Chris79 on December 26, 2017, 04:37:32 PM
I would say G except for the spitfire.  Not sure how that lines up with the soviet plane set.  Is it taking the place of a model we don't have, if so which one and why?



If the crutch plane gets more people to participate I'm all for it.
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Nefarious on December 26, 2017, 04:49:48 PM
I would say G except for the spitfire.  Not sure how that lines up with the soviet plane set.  Is it taking the place of a model we don't have, if so which one and why?

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/spit/
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: mthrockmor on December 26, 2017, 08:02:56 PM
A

Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: TWCAxew on December 26, 2017, 10:47:27 PM
A
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Brooke on December 27, 2017, 02:59:17 AM
A
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Rocco on December 27, 2017, 11:05:51 AM
A
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: DubiousKB on December 27, 2017, 11:43:04 AM
A
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Nefarious on December 27, 2017, 12:22:24 PM
G
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: 1ijac on December 27, 2017, 01:46:02 PM
A
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: swareiam on December 27, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
Gentlemen,

Only affirmative votes are counted. In other words, if you condition your vote based on the setup or some sort of speculation, the vote is not counted.

Please just state A or G.

Let your As be As and your Gs be Gs.

Thank you...
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: KCDitto on December 28, 2017, 11:32:04 AM
G
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener &lt;Final Vote&gt;
Post by: horble on December 28, 2017, 11:46:00 AM
G
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: jeffn on December 28, 2017, 08:54:02 PM
A
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: swareiam on December 30, 2017, 07:55:02 AM
All,

A small adjustment has been made to the "Nuisance Raids" event to better align the hardware. The Hawker Hurricane squadron has been removed from the event replaced with a Spitfire Mk V squadron. Also, a FW190 gruppe has been moved in lieu of a Bf109F gruppe.

Again, this was done to create greater balance of aircraft in the event.

Cheers...
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: oboe on December 30, 2017, 11:16:51 AM
Gosh that's 3 changes to the ticket since voting started.    I understand the P-39Q has replaced the '39D in the Kuban setup but I am a little lost with regard to what the recent changes mean for the Nuisance Raids.   

Are you saying both the Hurricane IIb and Fw190A-5 have been removed from the setup, to be replaced by additional Spit Vs and Me109Fs?
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: swareiam on December 30, 2017, 11:41:25 AM
Gosh that's 3 changes to the ticket since voting started.    I understand the P-39Q has replaced the '39D in the Kuban setup but I am a little lost with regard to what the recent changes mean for the Nuisance Raids.   

Are you saying both the Hurricane IIb and Fw190A-5 have been removed from the setup, to be replaced by additional Spit Vs and Me109Fs?

Not exactly, there are concerns that the Hurricane is too slow. It is a point that has merit as most of the Hurricanes of the time became night fighters.

Essentially, the design was adjusted to focus a little more on balance and playability with these changes. There will be enough of the right models to have really great fights for sure.

A vote for either A or G won't be disappointing.  :aok

Just make sure your votes are in by Monday midnight.
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: oboe on December 30, 2017, 12:52:19 PM
Thanks for your response, Sware.   I'm sure either way it'll be good.

 I'm just not sure I understand what "A" is any more - have you removed the Hurricanes and FW190s completely?
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: AKKuya on December 30, 2017, 01:55:53 PM
With all the changes in the aircraft order of battle, I decided to bring this for complete dominance over any WW2 aircraft.

(http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab142/AKKuya/time%20pilot_zpszq4kpjwz.jpg) (http://s858.photobucket.com/user/AKKuya/media/time%20pilot_zpszq4kpjwz.jpg.html)

You will always find me in the exact center of the fight.   :devil
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: swareiam on December 30, 2017, 02:31:46 PM
Thanks for your response, Sware.   I'm sure either way it'll be good.

 I'm just not sure I understand what "A" is any more - have you removed the Hurricanes and FW190s completely?

Negative...

Only the Hurricanes have been removed completely. Even though the Luftwaffe during the period had a major ramp up and refit to the Fw190, we decreased the number of FW190s for parity sake. Removing the FW190 is next to impossible from a historical perspective, that wouldn't happen.

The way the document stands today make it an even event. Should be fun if it is the final vote.

Cheers...
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: AKKuya on December 30, 2017, 05:29:06 PM
With all the changes in the aircraft order of battle, I decided to bring this for complete dominance over any WW2 aircraft.

(http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab142/AKKuya/time%20pilot_zpszq4kpjwz.jpg) (http://s858.photobucket.com/user/AKKuya/media/time%20pilot_zpszq4kpjwz.jpg.html)

You will always find me in the exact center of the fight.   :devil

Looks like photobucket wants money to post pics here.  Time to find another.  I posted a pic of the 1980s arcade game screen of Time Pilot.
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Arlo on December 30, 2017, 06:04:31 PM
Until they jump onto the greedy bastage bandwagon, you may want to consider:

https://imgur.com/ (https://imgur.com/)
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: oboe on December 31, 2017, 12:03:42 PM
I'm going to go with G, based on more aircraft types included and more variety in the mission profiles.
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Phast12 on December 31, 2017, 01:14:41 PM
G
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: swareiam on January 01, 2018, 08:24:58 AM
All,

Voting ends tonight at mid-night. Get your vote in today. The resulting winner will be announce early January 2nd.

The CM team will then begin the finalization of the Write-Up, communicate dates, start working on registration and other scenario activities.

We appreciate all of the inputs and votes that have been made thus far. Whichever event wins the final vote, the February 2018 Aces High Scenario will be a great time.

Best Regards,

 :salute
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: TheBug on January 01, 2018, 01:05:43 PM
G

 :cheers:
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Crash Orange on January 01, 2018, 05:55:29 PM
A
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: BFOOT1 on January 01, 2018, 11:26:05 PM
Looks like I’ll have to get my 109 ready, eastern front here I come!
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: USCH on January 14, 2018, 12:53:32 PM
Stalingrad with no tanks.... or since someone assumes that no one likes tanks we should not include them in our fun?

Maybe we should have a typhoon of wind at 20,000ft as well... you know to limit the possibility of realism.
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Brooke on January 14, 2018, 02:55:06 PM
The people who decided that they don't like tanks in scenarios is the entire player base.  We tried getting GVers into scenarios many, many times with a lot of effort each time.  The last time we tried it, three people went into tanks.  Scenario players prefer the air-combat part of the battles.

Altitudes picked in scenarios are not a mystery.

Scenarios are crafted to make the experience of flying in them like what you read about if you read accounts of the action in the battle -- to be representative of that action.  For scenarios where there was lots of high-alt action (8th AF vs. Luftwaffe, for example) there are fights that happen at 34k.  For Eastern Front (and Tunisia, Rabaul, etc.) where there was almost no action way up that high, and almost all of it was lower, we craft it that way.  If we didn't, fights would be at 30+k, which would be unrepresentative and highly unrealistic.
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Arlo on January 14, 2018, 06:30:21 PM
The people who decided that they don't like tanks in scenarios is the entire player base.  We tried getting GVers into scenarios many, many times with a lot of effort each time.  The last time we tried it, three people went into tanks.  Scenario players prefer the air-combat part of the battles.

Altitudes picked in scenarios are not a mystery.

Scenarios are crafted to make the experience of flying in them like what you read about if you read accounts of the action in the battle -- to be representative of that action.  For scenarios where there was lots of high-alt action (8th AF vs. Luftwaffe, for example) there are fights that happen at 34k.  For Eastern Front (and Tunisia, Rabaul, etc.) where there was almost no action way up that high, and almost all of it was lower, we craft it that way.  If we didn't, fights would be at 30+k, which would be unrepresentative and highly unrealistic.

I'm terrible at GV play (read worse than dog-fighting). I was a big proponent of a Battle of the Bulge scenario, however - with tanks being the star. It was the main reason I asked for the Sherman to be modeled.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,126593.msg1341098.html#msg1341098
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Devil 505 on January 14, 2018, 07:05:59 PM
I'm terrible at GV play (read worse than dog-fighting). I was a big proponent of a Battle of the Bulge scenario, however - with tanks being the star. It was the main reason I asked for the Sherman to be modeled.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,126593.msg1341098.html#msg1341098

You would think a historical scenario with GV action would be a good idea. But when there is an opportunity for GV drivers to participate one (Winter Sky, Death Ground 2012), they stay in the MA.
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Arlo on January 14, 2018, 07:39:34 PM
You would think a historical scenario with GV action would be a good idea. But when there is an opportunity for GV drivers to participate one (Winter Sky, Death Ground 2012), they stay in the MA.

I blame marketing. Who's in charge of that, nowadays?  :furious
Title: Re: 2018 Scenario Season Opener <Final Vote>
Post by: Devil 505 on January 14, 2018, 08:42:15 PM
I blame marketing. Who's in charge of that, nowadays?  :furious

If the CM team tried any harder to bring in the GV'ers for that one, it would have looked like that scene with the hooker from Full Metal Jacket:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12tce-THLUE