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Title: Slightly weird question/poll
Post by: pembquist on December 30, 2017, 02:11:21 PM
Ok I have a question for anyone reading this. If you close your eyes and imagine an object, lets say a coffee cup, can you see the object and further if you can see the object is it like looking at the object with your eyes open in terms of persistence or permanence of the object or does it appear and disappear?

When I do this it kind of flashes in and out of view with other stuff replacing it, it is like I conjure up the object and it appears but only lasts a second.

I ask because I think I used to be able to just see things continuously, and I think I used to be able to make a machine in my head and watch the parts interact. (I say think because memory is treacherous.) I distinctly remember realizing I had lost the ability to visualize moving parts well about 15 years ago when looking at a suspension. Now I suspect I have lost another ability and I am curious what is normal for other people.
Title: Re: Slightly weird question/poll
Post by: 100Coogn on December 30, 2017, 02:17:42 PM
Just tried your example using my favorite coffee cup.
I can only see it for a very short time, then other things pop in there that I'm not thinking about. (at least I thought I wasn't)

Interesting question.

Coogan
Title: Re: Slightly weird question/poll
Post by: Arlo on December 30, 2017, 02:32:25 PM
I must be really in trouble. All my coffee cups look like porn goddesses that giggle and expose all.
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Post by: Volron on December 30, 2017, 03:35:01 PM
 :rofl
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Post by: bustr on December 31, 2017, 02:29:01 PM
I see a coffee cup, then I can change it into wire frame or morph it into another design, repaint it or let everything else random run like happens with normal minds. Don't worry about the flow of dissociated thoughts. Taking some time and allowing that with your eyes close is healthy. If something stays persistent and you obsess over it and stressing yourself. Take a vacation, talk to a friend, go fishing or if bad enough see a doctor. You are stuck with the brain between your ears.....
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Post by: icepac on December 31, 2017, 02:54:36 PM
Everything gets replaced with boobies almost immediately.
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Post by: zack1234 on December 31, 2017, 05:21:29 PM
Everything gets replaced with boobies almost immediately.

This :aok
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Post by: icepac on January 01, 2018, 12:41:11 AM
It's also the reason I no longer "meditate/pray" with the traditional eyes closed process.

The second I close my eyes, I get a parade of every downblouse I have experienced in my life as if were happening at that moment.

Title: Re: Slightly weird question/poll
Post by: pembquist on January 01, 2018, 04:27:54 AM
Ok, clearly I have to update my question, when you see this lovely curvaceous  etc. aureole phantasgorum huminahuminina does it persist or is it temporary quickly replaced by semi pornographic imagery that your id craves? Seriously can you just answer the question like Coogn and Bustr (thank you gentlemen) did?
Title: Re: Slightly weird question/poll
Post by: OldNitro on January 01, 2018, 07:18:10 AM
If I am getting you right?

Are you talking about visualization "in the minds eye"?
Yes, I have always been adept at that..

I don't have to close my eyes, I can do it in the midst
of other activities, eyes open.. But eyes closed makes
the images clearer and more detailed..

My wife, gets angry when I, "zone out" thinking of
other things, than we are conversing about.. ;)

Some call it day dreaming, preoccupied, or being distracted..
Title: Re: Slightly weird question/poll
Post by: FLS on January 01, 2018, 08:50:35 AM
Ok, clearly I have to update my question, when you see this lovely curvaceous  etc. aureole phantasgorum huminahuminina does it persist or is it temporary quickly replaced by semi pornographic imagery that your id craves? Seriously can you just answer the question like Coogn and Bustr (thank you gentlemen) did?

As you get older your abilities decline. Playing video games can help.  :aok
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Post by: Hajo on January 01, 2018, 09:51:54 AM
I did this back in the 60s'............................. .I think?
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Post by: mikeWe9a on January 01, 2018, 10:25:23 AM
I must be really in trouble. All my coffee cups look like porn goddesses that giggle and expose all.
Close your other browser window...
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Post by: Arlo on January 01, 2018, 12:47:46 PM
Close your other browser window...
Windows.
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Post by: bustr on January 05, 2018, 06:55:34 PM
If you are in your 50's or older and having this issue, try the following then sit and see how your visualization is working. Seems it's not unusual as you get older and at least in Japan this exercise has some benefits.

Put both palms together in front of your face pushed together like praying. Start with either hand and slowly reach outside and around the opposite hand and touch your ear on that side. Then return your hands to the starting position. Now do it with the other hand. Repeat this slowly 10 times. If you don't mess up the motion for 10 times, or you have a brain freeze trying to keep the motion correct, increase your speed until you mess up the motion of reaching outside and around the opposite hand to touch your ear on that side. Do the exercise for awhile at a speed you can control, then sit and do your visualization.

This helps you reconnect with using the opposite side of your brain and sharpens the memory and creativity a bit. In Japan they found with people as they get older, if they are doing the same job for years, they have memory problems for other things.

Title: Re: Slightly weird question/poll
Post by: Vraciu on January 05, 2018, 07:08:57 PM
This :aok

Yup.
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Post by: Shuffler on January 10, 2018, 04:43:11 PM
I'm not one to give my vision as I have NEVER been considered normal.

The last person that attempted to look inside my head was a doctor about 35 year a go. They say he has still not recovered to this day.