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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: AAIK on February 05, 2018, 10:19:38 AM
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I had severe stuttering in-game and was able to identify the culprit: Nvidia Container. Apparently it was running some code or function and took around 30% of the cpu. That on its own isnt enough to stutter the game, but it obviously was interrupting the GPU or taking precious resources.
Watch out for this program if you are running a Nvidia machine!
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That process is required by your card.
Research.
Coogan
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I wouldnt be posting unless I knew that it was ok to close it, which it is. The stuttering went away and I could play normally again. There are mutliple instances of it and none of them use actual GPU/CPU power. This might be an anomoly that is causing the stuttering that other people are getting (Dx11).
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How did you turn it off?
I've got two copies of it running...when I end Process on one, the other immediately replicates it before I can shout down the second....etc..
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I just went to the task manager, selected the program in question and right clicked on it to bring up the options menu and then select end task. Having many copies of it shouldnt be a problem, a problem occurs when it starts to use CPU/GPU power (double digits). Normally it isn't an offending process and it has only happened to me once so far (rebooting didnt help).
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Understand. Thank you
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I wouldnt be posting unless I knew that it was ok to close it, which it is. The stuttering went away and I could play normally again. There are mutliple instances of it and none of them use actual GPU/CPU power. This might be an anomoly that is causing the stuttering that other people are getting (Dx11).
When folks like you go fooling around with Processes then come on here afterwards complaining the game isn't working proper. :headscratch: :rofl
Tear it up slim-shady.
Coogan
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The Nvidia Container program is supposed to be part of GeForce Experience. The container is designed to maintain a list of games that GF Experience can manage performance for, but this is exactly why you should not be using GF Experience. I don't allow it to install, and I block the spyware associated with it.
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When folks like you go fooling around with Processes then come on here afterwards complaining the game isn't working proper. :headscratch: :rofl
Tear it up slim-shady.
Coogan
Hmmm, how to put this politely .... Coogan, would you mind explaining to me why I get stutters using Dx9? You seem to think you know, I know that I don't.
PS I don't recall ever complaining the game doesn't work correctly after ending a process. I am experimenting with processes on advise from the game producer. I'm not uninstalling them, I simply turn them off and see if we find the magic bullet.
Your turn
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Hmmm, how to put this politely .... Coogan, would you mind explaining to me why I get stutters using Dx9? You seem to think you know, I know that I don't.
PS I don't recall ever complaining the game doesn't work correctly after ending a process. I am experimenting with processes on advise from the game producer. I'm not uninstalling them, I simply turn them off and see if we find the magic bullet.
Your turn
When you brick your Rig, you can ask yourself that question.
As far as my PC, I don't believe I said anything about stutters did I?
Coogan
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Nope, you jumped into the conversation saying the process is "required" ... a simple Google would have told you otherwise.
It is an optional program.
It is also remarkably hard to kill.
I didn't say you are getting stutters....I just figured that since you seem to think you know what is going on, you'd know why I am getting stutters.
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Nope, you jumped into the conversation saying the process is "required" ... a simple Google would have told you otherwise.
It is an optional program.
It is also remarkably hard to kill.
I didn't say you are getting stutters....I just figured that since you seem to think you know what is going on, you'd know why I am getting stutters.
You figured wrong.
Edit: Remember messing with stuff you don't understand can be risky...
Coogan
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Absolutely agree with your last statement. :cheers:
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Absolutely agree with your last statement. :cheers:
:cheers:
Coogan <--Learned the hard way...
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Nope, you jumped into the conversation saying the process is "required" ... a simple Google would have told you otherwise.
It is an optional program.
It is also remarkably hard to kill.
I didn't say you are getting stutters....I just figured that since you seem to think you know what is going on, you'd know why I am getting stutters.
Heya Rodent,
Go to your programs and uninstall Geforce Experience (this will remove Nvidia Container)
I've never allowed it to ever be installed, so wasn't aware that was where Nvidia Container resides...
Challenge posted how to fix/remove it in an earlier post
Hope this helps
TC
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GeForce Experience is not required, along with the background processes it uses.
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I never would of beleived you before Skuzzy until I saw it for my very own eyes. Nvidia has some real issues with their programming. Anyone know if AMD suffers from the same problem?
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I installed the experience when I first switched to this 1060 card thinking I'd use it for shadow play. Didn't like it as much as OBS so I uninstalled it. After several driver updates the container service persists. Good to know it's meaningless so that I can nuke it at startup. I'm sure a full install would maybe kill it off too. Or not.
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I've never installed GeForce Experience, yet I have two Containers running. :noid
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They only become a problem when they start consuming CPU power. Normally they just idle there at around 0%.
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Will do, Thanks TC
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I've never installed GeForce Experience, yet I have two Containers running. :noid
Hmm.... Wonder if it might be because of a change Nvidia did with some of the last 3 or 4 Graphics Driver versions or something?
and Drano posted that it might take a complete removal of the entire graphics card driver package then running a cleaner before installing a fresh graphics card driver package and unchecking/not allowing Nvidia Geforce Experience to be installed....
just some thoughts
TC
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Hmm.... Wonder if it might be because of a change Nvidia did with some of the last 3 or 4 Graphics Driver versions or something?
and Drano posted that it might take a complete removal of the entire graphics card driver package then running a cleaner before installing a fresh graphics card driver package and unchecking/not allowing Nvidia Geforce Experience to be installed....
just some thoughts
TC
Funny thing is that the latest drivers don't work on my rig so I have to use a tad older ones. The current ones are from last July. And I've used DDU between every change.
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Bizman does the process show up as Container? or as a service that you found through digging/running down where it was coming from?
The 3 computers I currently have running using 3 different types of Nvidia GPUs aren't showing any Container processes running... All 3 PCs are running Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit.....
just checking to make sure I'm not overlooking something
TC
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On my Win7 the Task Manager for all users says twice "NVDisplay.Container.exe" in the Processes with the description "NVIDIA Container", Threads 6 and 7.
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NVidia and AMD are doing things in the drivers these days outside the scope of Windows.
AMD's ReLive drivers and application, as an example, appear to get loaded by the driver itself and not through any standard Windows startup procedure. Odd thing is, they will always start, even if you do not install ReLive.
To stop them, you have to install ReLive, then remove it, or rename the executables to stop them from being loaded.
I wonder if NVidia is doing something similar?
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NVidia and AMD are doing things in the drivers these days outside the scope of Windows.
AMD's ReLive drivers and application, as an example, appear to get loaded by the driver itself and not through any standard Windows startup procedure. Odd thing is, they will always start, even if you do not install ReLive.
To stop them, you have to install ReLive, then remove it, or rename the executables to stop them from being loaded.
Appreciate the heads up, Thank you
I need to check 2 of my PCs that have newer AMD GPUs using the new Crimson Drivers
TC
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I am not sure if this is connected but it happened to me again. The Nvidia Container was processing at around 30% and causing severe stutters for my game of Aces high. Before I closed it I noticed that it was a 32bit version of it as well that was the culprit.
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Appreciate the heads up, Thank you
I need to check 2 of my PCs that have newer AMD GPUs using the new Crimson Drivers
TC
Hi All,
The 2 .exe you're looking for to rename to stop AMD ReLive from loading up if you're not using it are found in the following:
C:\Program Files\AMD\CNext\CNext....... amdow.exe (AMD ReLive Desktop Overlay) & amddvr.exe (AMD ReLive Host Application).
To date, all runs fine w\ these 2 .exe's renamed to stop them from loading up.
To date I've never caught them actually using any CPU cycles on their own (I used to use ReLive when it 1st came out but have since switched to using Win 10's Game DVR to record videos) but as Skuzzy has stated the AMD Crimson\Adrenelin driver packs do load them on your HDD\SSD thru Radeon Settings install when installing drivers but show to not become active until ReLive is actually initiated thru Radeon Settings, ReLive.
If you choose the Express Install then all will be installed, loaded and initiated, including ReLive.
If you choose the Custom Install (the method I would recommend) then only the choices you pick will be installed, loaded and initiated. ReLive then is a second, separate part of the Custom driver install (the driver.exe's for it are installed and will load upon Windows startup) but will not initiate (start up) until you choose the "Install" option. If you choose the "Skip It" option then the ReLive drivers will stay dormant until you go into Radeon Settings, ReLive then click on "Install".
Hope this helps those of us AMD users.............
:salute
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Happened again. 32bit version of Nvidia container was the culprit again.
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I found a possible cause: The "In-game overlay".
To turn this off (for nvidia):
- Right click nvidia tray icon.
- Select "Nvidia GeForce Experience".
- Select the settings (Gear icon).
- Click on the slider next to the "In-game overlay" so it turns from green to white.
Cant really re-create the stuttering at will so just testing a probably source of problems at this point.
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Programs like this are much like support programs for your joystick.
If you don't need them, disable them from running.
ATI has programs including one to enable hotkeys and a lot of other video cards manufacturers have all sorts of crap that is not needed unless you need more than one way to adjust your video.......which you don't.
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The GeForce Experience spyware will be installed whether you uncheck it in the installation window or not. You can use Autoruns to remove it, which you should since it is stealing process time.