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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: oboe on February 19, 2018, 02:52:30 PM

Title: Looking for info on P-39Q skin subject
Post by: oboe on February 19, 2018, 02:52:30 PM
I have an interest in Lt Filatov's aircraft of the 30 GvIAP but this is all I could find:
(https://i.imgur.com/bgh7i9c.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/liozs14.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Uh5U0qg.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for info on P-39Q skin subject
Post by: lyric1 on February 20, 2018, 12:02:46 AM
Second photo.

(https://i.imgur.com/RCEy2G2.jpg)

Third photo.

(https://i.imgur.com/XIvzoqq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/AMKEsI6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NSW4sbG.jpg)


http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/modelphoto/p39michael/p39michael.html

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsoviet-aces-1936-53.ru%2Fprofile%2Fu%2Ffilatov.htm&edit-text=

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsoviet-aces-1936-53.ru%2Fabc%2Fu%2Ffilatov_ap.htm&edit-text=

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fairaces.narod.ru%2Fall3%2Ffilatov.htm&edit-text=

http://www.modelforce.ru/aviation/articles-1/scale-72/decals-72/dekali-dlya-p-39-airacobra-ot-authentic-decals/

http://karopka.ru/community/user/12867/?p=6&MODEL=468892&PAGEN_1=5

http://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=85332



Title: Re: Looking for info on P-39Q skin subject
Post by: oboe on February 20, 2018, 11:44:06 AM
Wow amazing finds, Lyric.  Thank you!

This a/c is depicted as having been delivered with the US insignia (white star in blue circle), and the blue circle on the wing insignia (Upper left and lower right) has been left intact as a blue background to the white star with a smaller red soviet star painted inside the white star.  On the fuselage insignia, the blue circle has apparently been painted over, but I haven't seen any evidence such as paint of a different shade or age, which is a bit of a mystery.  Unless Bell delivered the a/c without a circular surround to the fuselage stars?   The Russians couldn't match the paint color of the U.S. olive-green drab, so you often see a lighter, brighter green where they have tried to paint over some detail, or have made repairs.

Definitely seeing evidence of overpainting of portions of the "93" on the nose - almost as if this plane was formerly number "88" and portions were painted over to create a "93".  However, it might also be the 9 and 3 were originally painted in a too-closed fashion, and overpainting was used to open up the 3 and 9 more for better readability at distance.

Finally I have seen this a/c with three thin white stripes, irregularly spaced on the upper left wing.  I don't know what these are but have not seen photographic evidence of them - I've only seen them in profiles and models.  But it is an interesting detail.

btw that model is one of the best-painted models I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Looking for info on P-39Q skin subject
Post by: lyric1 on February 20, 2018, 11:56:12 AM
Quote from: oboe on February 20, 2018, 11:44:06 AM


btw that model is one of the best-painted models I've ever seen.

That last link with the model you can click on each photo and zoom it up where I think you can use the decals.

http://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=85332
Title: Re: Looking for info on P-39Q skin subject
Post by: bustr on February 21, 2018, 11:15:03 AM
On the outside of the windscreen bottom is that an external armor plate or a warm air vent from the gun compartment? I never noticed before, but the P39 does not have an armored windscreen.
Title: Re: Looking for info on P-39Q skin subject
Post by: lyric1 on February 21, 2018, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: oboe on February 20, 2018, 11:44:06 AM
Wow amazing finds, Lyric.  Thank you!

This a/c is depicted as having been delivered with the US insignia (white star in blue circle), and the blue circle on the wing insignia (Upper left and lower right) has been left intact as a blue background to the white star with a smaller red soviet star painted inside the white star.  On the fuselage insignia, the blue circle has apparently been painted over, but I haven't seen any evidence such as paint of a different shade or age, which is a bit of a mystery.  Unless Bell delivered the a/c without a circular surround to the fuselage stars?   The Russians couldn't match the paint color of the U.S. olive-green drab, so you often see a lighter, brighter green where they have tried to paint over some detail, or have made repairs.



Few examples in this link.

http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php?topic=2099.0
Title: Re: Looking for info on P-39Q skin subject
Post by: oboe on February 21, 2018, 12:17:47 PM
I saved some those pictures - esp. the one with the possible looks of the overpainting of US star.

thanks!
Title: Re: Looking for info on P-39Q skin subject
Post by: lyric1 on March 10, 2018, 03:01:27 AM
Quote from: oboe on February 20, 2018, 11:44:06 AM

Finally I have seen this a/c with three thin white stripes, irregularly spaced on the upper left wing.  I don't know what these are but have not seen photographic evidence of them - I've only seen them in profiles and models.  But it is an interesting detail.



While looking for other things for you I happened across this.


(https://i.imgur.com/P8L2Mgu.jpg)