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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: eskimo2 on October 27, 2001, 05:17:00 PM
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Poor Lazs One,
He has no fun,
Bombers always ruin his day.
Poor Lazs One,
Fun, he has none,
Now jets spoil the fray.
Poor Lazs One,
Has so little fun,
I wonder what makes him stay?
Poor Lazs One,
Ideas, he has one,
That all should play his way!
eskimo
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What beuatiful poetry. It makes me want to give Animal a hug.......
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beer?
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Moose, I'll take one. I need it after that bit of prose...... :p
Mav
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Originally posted by moose:
beer?
Could I see your ID, son?
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Pic just for Lasz. I bet he is happy to see two planes he hate in this condition :)
(Don't tell him I landed that Me-262)
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/262_b17.jpg)
Oh and tell him he can dog-fight in Me-262 too if he wants...
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/262_niki.jpg)
(That Nik.. uhh...N1K2-J ate few 30mm just before, it made a nice fireball half second later :) )
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seeing wusses in 262's fighting no talent milkrunners in fluffs affects me the same way the old war between iraq and iran did.
lazs
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Makes you want to blast through and cap 'em both, huh?
Hurri powah!
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seeing wusses in 262's fighting no talent milkrunners in fluffs affects me the same way the old war between iraq and iran did.
So that war effected you allot eh! At least I would think so by reading all your posts on 'uber perk rides' and the oooohhh soooo unfair 'uber buffs' :D
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apar... are you unable to read and comprehend. When have i ever commented on 262'd fighting fluffs before? What have I ever said about fluffs or 262's that was not accurate?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs1:
What have I ever said about fluffs or 262's that was not accurate?
lazs
Originally posted by lazs1:
no talent milkrunners in fluffs
Ill have to disagree here Lazs, ive seen some awesome buff pilots.
[ 10-29-2001: Message edited by: Am0n ]
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Lasz just an example:
seeing wusses in 262's fighting no talent milkrunners in fluffs.....
Are you not stating that people that fly 262 are wussies? And that in general people that fly buffs are no talent milkrunners?
What do U base that on? By the fact that you get shot down by them?
If I read you wrong pls explain that post.
[ 10-29-2001: Message edited by: Apar1 ]
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What do U base that on? By the fact that you get shot down by them?
Not that lazs needs any help, but I wonder Apar1, do you think out your arguments or do you just let it roll off your tongue?
Current Tour.
lazs has 6 kills and has been killed 1 time against the Me 262
lazs has 7 kills and has been killed 0 times against the B-17G
lazs has 3 kills and has been killed 1 time against the B-26B
lazs has 0 kills and has been killed 0 times against the Lancaster III
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Apache
But what about the imfamous TBMs HUH?????
surely they bested him!
:D
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Buffs = Gameplay concessions
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SO why accusing people (insulting them IMO) of being no talent milkrunners or wussies that fly 262's or insulting ppl that choose to fly LW planes, what's the point?
From his score stats he has obvisiously not much to fear from them so why?
[ 10-29-2001: Message edited by: Apar1 ]
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Originally posted by Apar1:
or insulting ppl that choose to fly LW planes, what's the point?
How does that always get included in a reply from a "LW" pilot?
No one has to even say anything about the LW, and yet it comes up...
Interesting..
-SW
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apar... people who fly 262's in the arena ARE wussies and fluff drivers ARE no talent milkrunners and....
Insulting those who fly for the girly grey is... a public service.
lazs
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SWulfe, I was refering to this one:
Oh nooo... the LW guys don't understand me! That's like saying I have nothing in common with pedohiles.
[ 10-29-2001: Message edited by: Apar1 ]
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I think allot of ppl flying buffs will disagree with you on the "public service part" lazs.
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apar... I feel no obligation to spare the feelings of pedophiles.
lazs
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Hello spazs, I'm interested to hear your explanation of the connection between buff flying and pedophilia.
[ 10-29-2001: Message edited by: Erlkonig ]
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Originally posted by Apar1:
SO why accusing people (insulting them IMO) of being no talent milkrunners or wussies that fly 262's or insulting ppl that choose to fly LW planes, what's the point?
From his score stats he has obvisiously not much to fear from them so why?
Why? Because some people actually dare to enjoy playing the game in a way different to that which lazs wants them to. :eek:
Shame on them! He is just trying to get people to play Lazs High (tm).
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Gameplay concessions?
* As stated earlier by Hitech .50 cal guns of buffs are identical to the .50 cals on fighters.
* Buffs are easy to kill unless your lazy or extremely untalented.
* Buffs are essential to the strat element in the game, especially now with the changes in field captures.
* if buffs were removed, Lazs fun would still be spoilt by "milkrunning no talent jabo's"
* if buffs were removed, then Lazs would want P38's, F4U's, Tiffies and other ground attack fighters removed.
* Eventually only Laz's would be flying around in AH in a 202 with terrain removed just in case that milk running no talent terrain crashed into him.
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apar... I feel no obligation to spare the feelings of pedophiles.
Very clever not to call me or somebody else a pedophile directly Lazs, I wouldn't take it any further than that, ;)
[ 10-29-2001: Message edited by: Apar1 ]
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"Hello spazs, I'm interested to hear your explanation of the connection between buff flying and pedophilia"
Oh, I get it.... lazs... spazs.. Damn... that LW sense of humor never fails to tickle. I guess that's why so many of the really good comedians are german.
eric... please pay attention. I made no connection between fluffers and pedophiles.
zygote... wrong. but... I do believe that the world would be a happier place if everyone would just wake up with one simple thought every morning.. "what can I do to make lazs's day better today?"
lazs
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IMO Lazs is a whiny bit_h but if you think him as a village-idiot it makes it easier to understand him (just my opinion of course) :)
Anyway I usually just skip his posts.
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Problem with that Staga is, squeaky wheel theory, Laz whined and whined for "Furball Main arena only" and do away with strat monkeys because we destroyed his ability to fight where he wants, so HTC gives us the Combat arena, he poo poo'd it and said it was not for him, he wanted to be where the action was. Just search AGW posts for consistent Laz. (Thinks broken record)
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rip... you are deliberately missrepresenting my views. If you can't refute them thaen at least be honest. Perhaps tho, to be fair,.... you are not so much dishonest and slow witted as you are simply... lazy and approval starved.
staga.. you are welcome to ignore my posts butr if you do... you have no basis to comment on them eh? When you do it makes you look like you are talking out your ass.
lazs
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Get a clue Laz, too bad BK's are misrepresented by a baffoon like yourself. Thankfully, most of us know you.
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I still think it's funny so many people get so worked up over a silly message board on the internet.
if none of you care about what lazs thinks, why does he dominate you?
there should be an AA meeting for that 'post reply button'
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He doesn't dominate me. He whines, HTC listens, they give him what he wants, then he says he doesn't want it. End of story.
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Rip get a clue. Stop trying to tell the world what the BKs or anybody else thinks. No doubt you can tell us what you think but after that drivel about HTC being slaves to Lazs' will I am beginning to doubt that you even know what is going on in your own head.
Hooligan
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My gawd ... I've driven him ovewr the edge! Maybe I went too far? naaaa..
lazs
Public Relations officer for the Bk's and goodwill ambassador.
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30,000+ ft pinpoint accurate bombing = gameplay concession. (bombs have no dispersion whatsoever, so pinpoint really applies to all altitudes)
being able to zig-zag while in bombsight to take out multiple ack, fuel, ammo, barracks, and radar in one pass = gameplay concession (tho very much related to the above one.)
Oh, hitting a CV with a single level buff flying high??? Come on, that's about as gamey as carbombing, IMO.
"* Buffs are essential to the strat element in the game, especially now with the changes in field captures." - true. the above concessions are due to this fact.
I have no problem with buff gun strength or the ease or lack thereof in killing a buff. Take the time to get higher than a single buff and it's dead meat. of course you can't do that very well if the buff is at 35,000ft (while the buff can nail hangars with perfect accuracy from up there)
I don't give a single hair on a rat's butt if Lazs "fun" is ruined by a bomb, regardless where it came from. It just so happens that when buffs are talked about, Lazs is gonna be there pooh-poohing them.
My position is that bombing in buffs is gamey and lame, IMO. It DOES have a purpose though, so I don't want to see buffs go like Lazs does. I'd love to see recreations of the actual sights used in each buff we have (not just the generic one that all buffs use) and then have the bombs fall at least somewhat realistically (our MG and cannon rounds have dispersion, why can't bombs?) But Nifty, then the solo buff wouldn't be able to do anything. You know what, yer right. It'd give those dedicated bomber squadrons (like the DHBG and BeachS' 483rd) a REAL reason to get up some big ol' buff formations to hit some strat targets. Precision bombing was done by fighters in attack roles, not a single high level bomber.
In conclusion... buffs = gameplay concessions.
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Guess I typed that wrong, he and others asked for a furball type arena, he was most vocal, and once we got one, he snuffed it. end of story.
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Rip, where on earth are you getting the idea that Lazs wanted the Combat Theater? Lazs HATES Axis vs Allied with about the same passion he hates perk points and buffs. He's made that point abundantly clear.
People may not agree with Lazs on things, but he never wavers on his opinions and usually makes them perfectly clear.
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Dueling terrain, where you have nothing but furballs. Sorry for the confusion. Thats my opinion and I'm sticking to it! :D
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Rip:
Here is another clue. If you are not paying attention to what somebody else says then don't comment on it. Simply writing: "I don't care much for a lazs and am jealous of his rugged good looks." will probably suffice.
Hooligan
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LOL hooli! <S>
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nifty... not to nit pick but I have asked for dispertion for bombs. I have allso felt that a fluff killing the CV is very gamey.. Basically my position is... If they can't get rid of the gamey issues for fluffs then simply get rid of em.
rip...I didn't ask for any seperate arena... My position is and allways has been that seperate arenas don't work. That may change if someone comes up with a totally new plan for one but, so far...
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs1:
nifty... not to nit pick but I have asked for dispertion for bombs. I have allso felt that a fluff killing the CV is very gamey.. Basically my position is... If they can't get rid of the gamey issues for fluffs then simply get rid of em.
:cool: I'm hearing you correctly now. Thx for the clarification!
Rip, you're now off the hook! :D
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Buffs in AH are a joke of gameplay concessions one behind the another (some -most- pro buffs, some -the less- anti buffs).
But Lazs is starting to make me feel good with the current buffs. If he's pissed because they are as they are...PLEASE HTC KEEP THEM THIS WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:)
I repeat a question I already did...lazs...if AH sucks as bad as it does with the idiotic perk system, idiotic "fluffs", idiotic dweebs, idiotic gameplay, idiotic strategy, etc etc etc...
then why don't you quit playing it?. Do yourself (and the rest) a favor if you think AH sucks as bad.
Hell I know I sometimes have got tiring, mostly in my first stages in AH, but you are simply out of the known limits of tiresome.
And I wont comment on your reference to pedophilia, other than say that such comparisons SHOULDNT be left unanswered by the moderators.
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Lazs when was last time you made positive post about AH?
Somehow all I can remember about you is squeaking about this and that.
Actually I quit reading your posts 'cause I already knew what is inside but maybe you could post a link to topic containing something positive and that way correct my opinion about you :)
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Originally posted by Staga:
Lazs when was last time you made positive post about AH?
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I know, I know! (Raises hand)...precisely at the time he quit WB's moved over to AH...then it ceased immediatly. :D
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LOL @ Ripsnort
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A 10 vs 1 gangbang and you guys still can't finish him off. Maybe you'd have better luck in the MA? :)
P.S. Eskimo, you got a thing for lazs? Seem to pay a lot of attention to him, and now you're writing poems to him. :)
bowser
[ 10-30-2001: Message edited by: bowser ]
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<sniff>
Ahhh, the roadkill is so thick in here it smells like I've got my head up a cows ass.
Carry on... with whatever the hell is going on here.
-SW
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"The guns work and the damage model is fair. The corsair is not the worlds worst aircraft like in WB. better, by far, view system. No boring allied vs axis crap unless you want to go to the ever popular CT arena.
lazs "
This is a quote from 10-25-01. (last week for LW guys) Staga and rip... this is too easy. You guys should at least think a little before ya post.
lazs
[ 10-30-2001: Message edited by: lazs1 ]
[ 10-30-2001: Message edited by: lazs1 ]
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Congratulations Lazs; You actually made something I thought was impossible :)
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How difficult would it be for HT to do bomb dispersion? (Also cratering of paved surfaces i.e.- the runways, blast radius, etc...) Got no problem with the first if they do the others. I don't think many people who fly the bombers would complain.
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Majic:
LOL. If HTC implemented realistic bomb accuracy for fluffs they would be totally useless in the MA. The MA currently doesn't have any targets even close to big enough for them to hit consistently. I suspect that the city complexes next to airfields that came with 1.08 are possibly a move in the direction of giving the fluffs realistic accuracy and big enough targets so that they would have something to bomb, but as it stands there is no use in the MA for realistic heavy bombers. Anybody who thinks that the bomber pilots wouldn't complain when good accuracy for them meant hitting somewhere within 800 yards of an enemy airfield is seriously mistaken IMO.
Personally I am all for historically-acurate bombing accuracy and I hope that HTC comes up with some appropriate huge targets for the bombers so that they stop being just fluff.
Hooligan
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staga.. "congradulations"??? For what? Proving that you and rip are talking out of your bellybutton when you claim to know what I say? sheesh... It's childs play.
Yep... make bombers the slightest bit realistic and they will have no use in AH right now. That has been my contention all allong... "but we neeeeed fluffs!" Oh? maybe but.. do we need cv's? the lack of realism of one feature has ruined another. I would rather have useful cv's than useful, gamey fluffs.
hooli is right... there are no real fluff fans just attention starved milkrunners. take away the laser bomb accuracy and they would all leave anyway.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs1:
Yep... make bombers the slightest bit realistic and they will have no use in AH right now. That has been my contention all allong... "but we neeeeed fluffs!" Oh? maybe but.. do we need cv's? the lack of realism of one feature has ruined another. I would rather have useful cv's than useful, gamey fluffs.
hooli is right... there are no real fluff fans just attention starved milkrunners. take away the laser bomb accuracy and they would all leave anyway.
lazs
I rest my case... :D
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Eh... ;)
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Ah hell if hooly, apache, and lazs are posting so will I.
Hooligan you should really implement your strategy proposal that we discussed when I was out west.
BTW, when are you and the old one coming back to NYC, and also why is it everytime I am on AH you guys are never there...Bastards ;)
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"I got a secret I won't tell! I got a secret I won't tell!" Not just yet, anyway :D
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I know the secret...
I know the secret...
I know the secret!
eskimo
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"...I rest my case... ".
I hope you're not trying to make a living as a lawyer.
bowser
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Here's my view on the lazer accuracy. IRL b-17s flew in massive formations of 50 to sometimes over 1000. THis was to make sure that they hit target because the bombs weren't lazer guided. If you look at the statistics you will notice that most B-17s flew around 25k. I'll agree that the stratobuffs (30k+ buffs) are stupid because of the performance they have there and the unrealism because the buffs were open and it was too cold over 30k (it's like -40 degrees centigrade at 30k sometimes even colder).
But the problem is if you make the bombs not lazer guided then buffs will be useless because you will never be able to get 100 buffs to fly in formation in the MA. never.
Buffs are fine leave them the way they are now. And no i'm not a buff pilot so don't even try to insult me, i'm just saying that buffs are fine in the MA and you are an idiot if you can't kill one successfully (i find them too easy to kill)
And please people, we can talk to each other in more intellegent ways we don't need to call people "Pedophiles" "no talent milk runners" "wussies"..... The level of immaturity of some of the people on the BBS is just amazing at time.
And we're really beating a dead horse on this buff issue. Can we please stop wasting bandwidth on buff whines??
<S!> Soviet
P.S. if anyone took offence to anything i posted sorry i just had to state my opinion.
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Lazs got a bit discontent with my squad when we jaboed a field from which the enemy were launching to take part in a big furball. A furball lazs was very much enjoying. We heard some comments for that.
Basically, we spoiled his fun. Now he'd have to find and probably wait for another furball to develop, and in the meantime fight 2v2's, 4v 6's and whatnot. No 1.5 hour furball.
The thing is: we jaboed the field because we thought *that* was fun. People fly buffs or ME262's or whatever because that's how they get value for their money.
I accept that there aren't historical fights, that there's a lot of dweebery going on etc. basically others get their fun in a slightly different fashion than I do.
Some day, I hope lazs will accept it too.
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Eskimo! Gawd the pressure is killing me! <passes out>
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Rojo! If only they knew! <brain explodes>
eskimo
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Fighter pilots makes movies,
Bomber pilots make history!
(And keep your smartass comments about me being in a fighter squad to yourselves :p)
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And besides that, as an AH newbie, he doesn't really have the right to squeak yet. :)
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soviet... they have a very lopsided affect on gameplay for the skill required to fly em. That is wrong. They destroy the usefulness of the cv fleet in a most unrealistic manner. that is wrong.
I have never called anyone a pedophile on this board so... you are either talking out your bellybutton or listening to people who do and parroting them. either way... it makes you look like an idiot.
lazs
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stsanta... don't recall that time. I rarely (once every couple hours)talk on channel one or on private. What exactly did I say? Was it clever and scathing?
lazs
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Well my IQ just dropped dramatically reading this post.
I thought mostly adults played this game. :rolleyes:
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<Regaining conciousness> If they only new, Eskimo! I just hope my editor hurries. The tip of my tongue is all tore up from bitting it. I just Can't STAND IT! <passes out again>
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It is entirely to easy to take down a CV flying a buff.
Stop trying to argue everything the man says and listen every now and then, you dont have to agree with every flame that Lazs post or every point of every post, but hes got a valid point here.
Maybe theres other alternatives beside cornholing the buffs, if you take away there accuracy then you need massive numbers (as already noted in the thread). This will never happen so maybe we should increase the strenght of the CVs to be able to with stand some hits?
I wont wage the bombers worth on there skill as a pilot(s). My good RL friend is a bomber pilot in AH and flies nothing else, hes a better bomber pilot than anyone i know and he doesnt whine about the "no bombing skilled" fighters. Which is nice..
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Originally posted by lazs1:
I have never called anyone a pedophile on this board so... you are either talking out your bellybutton or listening to people who do and parroting them. either way... it makes you look like an idiot.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs1:
apar... I feel no obligation to spare the feelings of pedophiles.
lazs
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You were talking about who, lazs?.
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RAM:
Since you are so clueless I will enlighten you. Lazs' statement meant that he didn't care if pedophiles might feel insulted by being compared to LW players.
Hooligan
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Hooligan, read the four posts on a row up and down laz1's post I quoted.
I dunno for you, but my interpretation of those posts is very very clear.
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RAM:
Apar has edited some of the content out of one of his posts and you are still as clueless as ever...
You could just ask Lazs if thinks pedophiles would be insulted to be compared to you, and if was his intent to convey that information. Then you could cease your speculation and misinterpretation (and how refreshing that would be!).
Hooligan
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I still can't figure out why ram is so worried about whether or not I am insulting pedophiles.
lazs
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hehe.
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Poor Lazs One,
He has no fun,
Bombers always ruin his day.
Poor Lazs One,
Fun, he has none,
Now jets spoil the fray.
Poor Lazs One,
Has so little fun,
I wonder what makes him stay?
Poor Lazs One,
Ideas, he has one,
That all should play his way!
eskimo
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geeze eskimo... you weren't embarassed enough posting that the first time?
lazs
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Get a room you two.
bowser
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Originally posted by Am0n:
It is entirely to easy to take down a CV flying a buff.
Stop trying to argue everything the man says and listen every now and then, you dont have to agree with every flame that Lazs post or every point of every post, but hes got a valid point here.
It is also way too easily kill a cv with a P38, P47 or other heavy fighter. Why should buffs be singled out here?
Lazs gets flak for carrying on a personal vendetta to rid AH of the things he doesn't think should be there. He gets flamed for insulting people who are merely trying to enjoy the game in their own way. If he starts trying to see things from another point of view, I might start to take more notice of the things he has to say.
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Unlike level bombing attacks, Dive-bombing attacks actually did kill CVs. Because players are willing to die to get the target it may be "too easy" to kill a CV with a jabo, but that is not because of unrealistic bomb accuracy.
Unlike in AH, buffs couldn't hit moving ships in real life except due to extreme good luck.
Hooligan
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hooli... facts and realism? Now you've really done it... bringing facts into the thing.
bluemako.. don't worry about it. if you have no facts... heck, you can make up a poem or something. artistic licence.
lazs
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With all the attention Lazsie has been getting lately, I figured it was time to bump a classic. We all know how much he loves seeing his name on the screen.
eskimo
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lol
and like others have stated before...
a decent pilot but a crappy persona. Hard to give a guy with a lil' tude like that any credit.
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Pedophiles ?
At least get your Geo right Lazsie...
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geeze eskimo my little blubber eating buddy.... didn't you feel that you looked foolish enough the first go round?
saintaw... what is a geo?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs1
apar... are you unable to read and comprehend. When have i ever commented on 262'd fighting fluffs before? What have I ever said about fluffs or 262's that was not accurate?
lazs
add this to that statement........
who gives a toejam what I(thats you laz1) say?
:)
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my guess is the guy who I was talking to hazed. You of course have the option of ignoring him and my reply to him both if you wish or....
yu could continue to play the mole in the "whack-o-mole" portion of the BBS.
lazs
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LOL very nice eskimo