General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ghi on March 11, 2018, 01:48:09 PM
Title: Will the free-falling 8.5 ton Chinese space station crash into lower Michigan?
Post by: ghi on March 11, 2018, 01:48:09 PM
....Experts say that the state falls among 'the highest probability' "
"It is believed China's first prototype station, Tiangong-1, will come crashing back to the planet around April 3, experts say.
US research organization Aerospace Corporation revealed that parts of southern Lower Michigan are among the regions that have the highest probability of being hit by falling debris, according to MLive.com. "
From what some folks from there have told me, it could probably hit ANY part, and it would either not make a difference, or actually IMPROVE the place. :P
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Post by: Zimme83 on March 11, 2018, 08:41:07 PM
The space station weighs just 8.5 tonnes, which is much less than for ex the fuel tanks of the space shuttle, which also made uncontrolled reentries. It is more a proof of concept than a space station. It orbits the earth in 90 mins so naturally its hard to predict the exact spot of reentry. Even +/- 30 mins means that the area covers 2/3 Rd's of the globe..
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Post by: zack1234 on March 12, 2018, 02:25:24 AM
What’s Sweden like :old:
Is it like IKEA?
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Post by: Oldman731 on March 12, 2018, 10:37:55 AM
No its not certain where it will come down yet, ist april 3rd +/- 1 week.....
Who wants to bet they will narrow that window down to April 1st?
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Post by: BoilerDown on March 13, 2018, 12:54:02 AM
Unless its in a very particular orbit, if they don't know when to a lot more precision than a day, they don't know where. Any guessing is just clickbait based on naming a place we've heard of and would be concerned about and that happens to fall in the right latitude.
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Post by: Skuzzy on March 13, 2018, 06:35:31 AM
Without a controlled re-entry, there is no way to know exactly where it will land until it is completely plunged into the atmosphere.
Controlled re-entry plunges the object into the atmosphere at a specific point which allows easy calculations to place where the object will land with a greater degree of accuracy.
The reason we cannot calculate where a free falling object will land is because we really do not know exactly where the atmosphere ends and space starts. The accepted Karman line, at 62 miles above sea level, is the best approximation, but that is what it is, an approximation.
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Post by: Zimme83 on March 13, 2018, 07:13:57 AM
Its not even an approximation, its more like an artificial boundary. The atmosphere affects pretty much all LEO satellites. Even ISS need a push every now and then to not fall down ans its at around 400 km altitude.
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Post by: Zimme83 on March 13, 2018, 11:17:26 AM
In case anyone wondered: Karman line is defined rougly as " the altitude where the speed necessary to aerodynamically support the airplane's full weight equals orbital velocity." I.e An aircraft at that altitude would have to fly so fast in order to produce lift that it would effectively be in orbit. so "The Karman line is therefore the highest altitude at which orbital speed provides sufficient aerodynamic lift to fly in a straight line that doesn't follow the curvature of the Earth's surface."
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Post by: zack1234 on March 13, 2018, 02:16:51 PM
Are we going to invade China?
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Post by: Brooke on March 13, 2018, 06:46:40 PM
You can call it a crash, but Detroit really wants to space jack that thing.
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Post by: BuckShot on March 15, 2018, 07:43:25 AM
....and then strip out all of the copper to turn in for scrap.
The fire wouldnt even be out yet and it will be stripped down to nothing. Then left sitting on cinder blocks after its space wheels are stolen
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Post by: eagl on March 15, 2018, 06:44:19 PM
My vote is for San Francisco. I really want to see that rumor spread.
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Post by: JOACH1M on March 16, 2018, 01:07:28 AM
Weird I haven’t heard a thing about this and I live in SE Michigan.... hopefully it just burns up on re-entry or lands in the lake(s) honestly.
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Post by: zack1234 on March 16, 2018, 07:43:42 AM
Stop gazing at yourself in the mirror and investigate :old:
$30 for your joystick and pedals?.
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Post by: Zimme83 on March 16, 2018, 11:09:20 AM
Window down to March 30 - April 6. Orbit now 224 x 246 km, down from 235 x 257 km a week ago.
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Post by: ghi on March 17, 2018, 03:16:46 PM
This could match Hopi's Blue Star Katchina prophecy. I remember watching this images , russian MIR burning with blue-turquoise light during reentry .
"The final sign The ninth and final sign of destruction is described by White Feather as, "You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease. This idea of the Blue Star Kachina marking the end of all Hopi rituals is reflected in Waters' book, Book of the Hopi, in which he states, "The end of all Hopi ceremonialism will come when a kachina removes his mask during a dance in the plaza before uninitiated children.[5]" This absence of Hopi ceremonialism will coincide with the destruction of the Fourth World. Waters suggested that World War III will begin and the United States will be ripped apart by war, leaving only the Hopis and their homeland intact. The war of the end of the world is described by Waters as "a spiritual conflict with material matters [5]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Star_Kachina
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Post by: Meatwad on March 17, 2018, 05:33:58 PM
Chicken Little :rolleyes:
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Post by: Zimme83 on March 19, 2018, 06:24:42 AM
Geomagnetic storms have accelerated the orbital decay, new window is 30th of March +/- 4 days.
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Post by: Mickey1992 on March 19, 2018, 08:24:39 AM
Geomagnetic storms have accelerated the orbital decay, new window is 30th of March +/- 4 days.
TIANGONG 1 on N2YO tracking map, not sure if uses real orbital data or just an animation. http://www.n2yo.com/?s=37820 Interesting you mentioned that, i thought solar flares is affecting on board electronics only; i just read the ISS orbit was also lifted last week,found it explained on NOAA. https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/impacts/satellite-drag I know people are laughing about this things, i'm listening Coast to Coast radio show for almost 20 years with all my sensors tuned to max receptivity, love UFO, aliens, Illuminati, paranormal conspiracy bs. :x The most interesting show ever, was with ED Dames guest accurately predicting Fukushima disaster (without a time frame) and something like a space shuttle crashing down on Earth, maybe same solar flare drag effect on orbit . I don't know what to believe about remote viewing , certain is we all have some telepathic ESP capabilities, mine resumes to incoming phone calls pre-sensing like most people.
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Post by: ghi on March 19, 2018, 06:58:32 PM
from the article ; "Chinese satellite filled with corrosive fuel will probably hit… the ocean" Could have radioactive plutonium energy cell ,( maybe they use this in unmanned space probes only.)Voyager 1/2 was launched in "77 has reached the edge of the solar system, with one of this on board, still working transmitting radio signals to Earth after 40 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator . Few ears ago, a Russian satellite crashed in NW Canada with one of this devices contaminating a wide area , luckily bushes only;, multiple heads dragon like moose has been later spotted. What if this space junk ignored for years passing every 2 hours above USA is Trojan horse EMP weapon ? would drastically reduce the response time.
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Post by: 100Coogn on March 19, 2018, 08:06:33 PM
Relax. We have nothing on this puny planet that is going to have an adverse effect on outer space, nor the galaxies beyond. We are but a mouse turd in a big bag of rice, combined with many more bags.
Coogan :noid
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Post by: Meatwad on March 19, 2018, 09:26:47 PM
Kool Aid :rofl
Let us all put on our tinfoil hats, the reflected energy from government mind control satellites will combine with the government weather control satellites and push the chinese junk away from the planet and into deep space. I read it on dailymail so it has to be true
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Post by: Zimme83 on March 20, 2018, 04:08:35 AM
" multiple heads dragon like moose" :headscratch:
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Post by: Oldman731 on March 20, 2018, 06:12:35 AM
Title: Re: Will the free-falling 8.5 ton Chinese space station crash into lower Michigan?
Post by: Zimme83 on April 01, 2018, 09:31:09 AM
You can come out of your bomb shelters now. Reentry windows opens at 2200 UTC and is open for 6 hours. This means that N America and Europe is out of harms way as the 4 orbits the space station will cover during that times lies over S America, Africa, ME, Central Asia and China.
(or rather: Bummer you will miss a spectacular firework that poses pretty much zero risk to humans)
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Post by: Puma44 on April 01, 2018, 09:49:56 AM
Title: Re: Will the free-falling 8.5 ton Chinese space station crash into lower Michigan?
Post by: icepac on April 01, 2018, 10:08:53 AM
It would be nice if it doesn't have a RTG.
If it does, the shielding for it is likely intense enough to survive to the ground..............provided it rides in the station long enough before breakup to enjoy the aerodynamic drag of the station itself.
If it has a S90 core, I would prefer it makes it to the ground intact rather than leaving a plume of strontium across the sky.
If a "dense and heavy object" from the station departs at a high enough altitude, it will likely burn to nothing.
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Post by: Zimme83 on April 01, 2018, 10:26:31 AM
Havent seen anything about it having a RTG, and I dont see the why it would as its solar panels would deliver the power needed for normal operation.
Edit: Image of the path during the reentry window: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZtPrzXX0AUysCG.jpg (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZtPrzXX0AUysCG.jpg)
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Post by: Meatwad on April 01, 2018, 07:02:30 PM
Less then 30 minutes to go, re-entry estimated off the west coast of south america
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Post by: BoilerDown on April 01, 2018, 09:51:16 PM
It actually landed NW of Tahiti. Which is about 2 Australia widths from the antipode of Michigan, the opposite side of the world. Good job, it would be hard from them to be more wrong.
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Post by: Zimme83 on April 02, 2018, 04:36:12 AM
It dropped in the perfect area so I guess the world survived.
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Post by: zack1234 on April 02, 2018, 05:29:38 AM
Let’s invaded China just incase :old:
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Post by: ghi on April 02, 2018, 01:05:52 PM
Not yet , heavy chemtrails today and 5G is being tested, i hear voices screaming in my head, about to go nutz like those dutch cows; i ordered a Magneto's helmet on eBay.
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Post by: zack1234 on April 02, 2018, 11:51:32 PM