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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: TerryRF on March 25, 2018, 12:36:54 AM
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Some help on how to update my GTX 1070 properly.
Do I just get the latest driver (394.24) from nvidea, download it then run the .exe or is it more involved? I have heard various things such as using third party software to remove old drivers. Using GeForce Experience (which I have already uninstalled). My current driver is ver. 378.78.
I did update the driver once before using GeForce Experience but I don't know if that is the best way. Any guidance I can get from any of you tech savvy AH'ers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks...Av8.
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Basically, if you're updating from existing Nvidia drivers to a newer version, you don't have to do any extra tricks. Simply download the driver and execute it.
I prefer checking the "Clean install" box during the installing as well as unchecking most of the elements in the components menu. You don't need the 3D things unless you're using a 3D monitor with or without 3D glasses, neither do you need the HD audio unless you're using your monitor speakers connected via HDMI. Graphics driver and PhysX are all you need.
Or, as this image says:
(https://forums.evga.com/download.axd?file=7;1174377&where=&f=CustomOptions2.jpg)
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Just use express installation, it automatically uninstalls all the old drivers before installing. So its basically the same as a clean installation.
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Some help on how to update my GTX 1070 properly.
Do I just get the latest driver (394.24) from nvidea, download it then run the .exe or is it more involved? I have heard various things such as using third party software to remove old drivers. Using GeForce Experience (which I have already uninstalled). My current driver is ver. 378.78.
I did update the driver once before using GeForce Experience but I don't know if that is the best way. Any guidance I can get from any of you tech savvy AH'ers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks...Av8.
I use Wagnard DDU (https://www.wagnardsoft.com/content/ddu-guide-tutorial) to uninstall my video driver. It's highly recommended on the Nvidia forums.
The link I provided is for the guide for DDU, but there is also a link for the download on that page.
If you decide to use it, just make sure you run it in Safe Mode.
Coogan
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Just use express installation, it automatically uninstalls all the old drivers before installing. So its basically the same as a clean installation.
:confused:
Coogan
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Yupp, Wagnard DDU is the tool if you have encountered any issues with your previous drivers. And also if you've accidentally installed the unwanted/unneeded features mentioned above, that's the most efficient way to get rid of them.
Express might work if the previous install was of the minimal type. But I must say that I wouldn't trust it not to install something extra!
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Basically, if you're updating from existing Nvidia drivers to a newer version, you don't have to do any extra tricks. Simply download the driver and execute it.
I prefer checking the "Clean install" box during the installing as well as unchecking most of the elements in the components menu. You don't need the 3D things unless you're using a 3D monitor with or without 3D glasses, neither do you need the HD audio unless you're using your monitor speakers connected via HDMI. Graphics driver and PhysX are all you need.
Or, as this image says:
(https://forums.evga.com/download.axd?file=7;1174377&where=&f=CustomOptions2.jpg)
Bizman I've never seen that screen before. How do I access it?
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Max, right click on it and choose "Copy Image Location". Paste it into a location where you can read it.
As per that very image, I just stumbled across it while doing a Google image search ("nvidia driver install") to check I'm using the right words. It's from https://forums.evga.com/Ultimate-Nvidia-Driver-Guide-for-Uninstalling-and-Installing-driversets-m1174372.aspx (https://forums.evga.com/Ultimate-Nvidia-Driver-Guide-for-Uninstalling-and-Installing-driversets-m1174372.aspx) so I judged the source as valid. Now that I took a closer look it appears to be outdated but the idea remains the same.
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Bizman I've never seen that screen before. How do I access it?
I know you asked Bizman, but are saying you don't see that image displayed when installing your driver?
When you are ready to install your driver that screen appears, if you have selected Custom Installation.
If you select Express Installation, I do not believe you will see it.
Coogan
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No, you won't see that image as part of the installation routine, unless you use the Custom install rather than the Express install. I always use the DDU app and then do a Custom install. I don't think there is any need to do a Clean install, unless your SLI profiles are causing a problem. If you clean them out, then you will have to readjust everything afterwards.
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After installing any driver into a gaming rig, it's best to run directx to check compatibility.
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Thanks to all that responded.
I followed Bizmans advice exactly and everything went quite well. I downloaded from the nvidea site and did the custom install. The screen was exactly as Bizman pictured.
The "NVIDEA Telemetry Container" was also installed under Bizmans method and was started (automatically) and I promptly disabled it in the services tool.
Hopefully one second pauses in the AHIII dx11 version will go away.
Thanks all. Av8.
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I know you asked Bizman, but are saying you don't see that image displayed when installing your driver?
When you are ready to install your driver that screen appears, if you have selected Custom Installation.
If you select Express Installation, I do not believe you will see it.
Coogan
Thanks, Coogan! I totally misunderstood the question! :bhead
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Thanks, Coogan! I totally misunderstood the question! :bhead
I was confused as well. Thought I'd take a shot.
Coogan :cheers:
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ALWAYS use the custom installation option for ANY video card driver or you will get a load of garbage you do not need on your computer.
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I like DDU - display driver uninstaller. Uninstall your current driver, then in safe mode run DDU, the reboot and install the new driver. I tried out nVidia Experience, giant POS IMO, doesn't really even do anything, just eats up processes and has extra background tasks running. Booo. Custom install = the driver, physx, and the sound drivers, no 3d or the other crap.
You can get away without doing it this way, but eventually parts of previous drivers may stick around and conflict with new ones - for the extra 3 minutes it's worth it to run DDU in safe mode IMO every time.
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And, as I have mentioned before, go to
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns
and get the Autoruns program, do a search for Nvidia, and uncheck the Telemetry latches in your registry.
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And, as I have mentioned before, go to
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns
and get the Autoruns program, do a search for Nvidia, and uncheck the Telemetry latches in your registry.
Thanks for the link, Chalenge!
Excellent piece of software!
Found stuff starting up that I wouldn't have seen otherwise that really don't need to be.........
Team Red thanks you!!
:salute
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And, as I have mentioned before, go to
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns
and get the Autoruns program, do a search for Nvidia, and uncheck the Telemetry latches in your registry.
Nice find. Microsoft would have been the last place I looked for a utility like that. I am including it in the "Hints and Tips" post in the support forums.
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Ha! I thought it was you that suggested it. No telling then.
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Ha! I thought it was you that suggested it. No telling then.
Hehe,....I might have and then forgot about it.
No matter how we got it here, it is now in the "Hints and Tips" post. I should put the installer on our download server, just in case it disappears from its original home.
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OK, this thread has now caused me a good deal of confusion. Using the Autoruns program has identified several Nvidia services that make no sense to me, and seem totally unrelated to my GTX 970 video card. Why do I have Nvidia drivers for RAID and SATA, given that my motherboard isn't Nvidia (ASUS P8z77-V) and isn't configured for RAID?
I blame all of you for my confusion, btw...
Mike
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It is a stock driver that comes with the operating system provided by Microsoft. You do not want to delete it.
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It is a stock driver that comes with the operating system provided by Microsoft. You do not want to delete it.
OK then, it stays. Thanks.
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Typically, you want to leave drivers alone.
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And, as I have mentioned before, go to
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns
and get the Autoruns program, do a search for Nvidia, and uncheck the Telemetry latches in your registry.
Heya Challenge,
is this Autoruns program any different than me using services.msc? or is it basically the same thing? just easier for most to use....
TC
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The Nvidia telemetry entries in your registry will not show up as services. Every time you reinstall the video driver the telemetry will be reinstalled even if you uncheck "GeForce Experience" during the installation. Autoruns is the only way to remove them, unless you want to go into the registry yourself.
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Got it, thank you
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Great information here. My question is related to this topic I think. If not, mea culpa.
I am about to replace my video card (GeForce 1070 FE which I will install in another pc) with an MSI GeForce1080 ti in my gaming (AH3) pc.
Q: Is there anything else that may be different or should be done when upgrading a video card as opposed to just updating the driver?
Thanks...Bix.
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Replacing any product that uses other than generic Windows drivers requires uninstalling the previous drivers and replacing them with new ones.
That may sound odd considering that you're going to use the very same drivers for both the old and new card. The logic lies in how the driver assigns various functions depending on the model of the card.
Download DDU from https://www.wagnardsoft.com/ (https://www.wagnardsoft.com/) and run it in Safe Mode. There's an option for changing to a new card after the drivers have been uninstalled.
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Got the new card installed and all went well. The advice here was spot on. Thanks again.