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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Mister Fork on April 16, 2018, 03:59:12 PM
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Group CO, Col. Edward S. Chickering's airplane being started with the hand crank. July 1943 Airacobra training at Hamilton Field, CA, for 357th Fighter Group before shipping out of England to join the 8th AF in July 1943. Group CO Col. Edward S. Chickering's P-39 is being started by the ground crew the hard way---with the hand crank to get the inertia starter going.
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I went to ROTC Summer Camp there. The large hangars on the left background are still there, even though the base is long closed.
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Few in this link. :)
http://www.ww2color.com/search/webapps/slides/slides.php
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I went to ROTC Summer Camp there. The large hangars on the left background are still there, even though the base is long closed.
Wow, happy accident there. When did the base close?
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Wow, happy accident there. When did the base close?
According to this link, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_Army_Airfield, 1973. I was there the summer of 1972. It was a beautiful base.
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According to this link, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_Army_Airfield, 1973. I was there the summer of 1972. It was a beautiful base.
Odd coincidence. I was in AFROTC camp at Plattsburgh, NY that summer. They had a wing of FB-111s and one of KC-135s.
Small world. Not to mention that we just lined up three squad emblems.
- oldman
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Lol. 4th. Here are some more
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The Red nose: 4th Fighter Group P-51D of Lefty Grove is being run up by its crew chief at Debden, England, winter 1944. Capt. Francis M "Lefty" Grove (http://www.4thfightergroupassociation.org/uploads/8/2/0/3/8203817/336_grovefmweb_a.pdf), Glen Cove NY. 336th Fighter Squadron. P-51D 44-15375 VF-T. -RD
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332nd BOMB SQUADRON, 94TH BOMB GROUP, 8TH AIR FORCE
Idiots' Delight (http://www.americanairmuseum.com/aircraft/4284) ground crew painting another bomb symbol on her nose indicating another mission completed.
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From now on, I'm going to try to reference the pilots, crews, and aircraft's history with every picture.
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The Aircobra was not being started by a hand crank. the crank runs an energizer to save on battery power and it powers the electric starter. Have a blast.
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The Aircobra was not being started by a hand crank. the crank runs an energizer to save on battery power and it powers the electric starter. Have a blast.
"Chickering's P-39 is being started by the ground crew the hard way---with the hand crank to get the inertia starter going."
...er...aren't you both saying the same thing...?
- oldman
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Come on now, Oldman. You know one has to be right and on has to be wrong, even if they are both semantically correct. It’s the forums. :neener:
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P-51D Serial# 44-14798 being finished in RAF dark green, ‘Butch Baby’ was the personal mount of Lt. Julian H Bertram (http://www.americanairmuseum.com/person/137366) and would finish the War unscathed only to be scrapped in June 1945 following a landing accident at its base at Leiston, UK.
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German.
Steyr RSO Raupenschlepper Ost
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Capt. George D. Green with his P-51D, mid 1944. Aircraft serial 44-14137 - P-51D - 335FS, 4th FG - designation was strangely 'WD-KK'. Capt. George D Green's (http://www.americanairmuseum.com/person/75572) plane, called 'Suzanne' and had a RARE extra 'K' designation. Due to allocation error.
Green is known for doing something brilliant and at the same time, completely reckless. Anyone remember what it was?
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Nooky Booky IV was flown by 357th Fighter Group ace Leonard K. "Kit" Carson (http://www.americanairmuseum.com/person/145662). Unable to get into Leiston due to poor weather, several of the unit's P-51s landed at Wormingford on Christmas Day 1944 after escorting bombers over Germany. Nooky Booky IV was the 4th 'mount' of Major Carson. Serial 44-11622, designation 'G4-C'. Though a wonderful atmospheric photograph of this famous plane, you can see just how far along the fuselage the dirt and soot from the exhaust stacks would reach from pulling contrail at high altitude.
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"Though a wonderful atmospheric photograph of this famous plane, you can see just how far along the fuselage the dirt and soot from the exhaust stacks would reach from pulling contrail at high altitude."
Ugh???
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"Though a wonderful atmospheric photograph of this famous plane, you can see just how far along the fuselage the dirt and soot from the exhaust stacks would reach from pulling contrail at high altitude."
Ugh???
Yeah, I wasn't sure what the author of the picture meant when he wrote that as well. Looks like verbal diarrhea to me.
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Green is known for doing something brilliant and at the same time, completely reckless. Anyone remember what it was?
I didn't.
But these people did!
https://www.facebook.com/ACConFB/posts/10155750951562985
- oldman
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Great photos Fork! Thanks for sharing.
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That is a nice nick in the prop.
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That is a nice nick in the prop.
LOL. Might have a problem getting that through the annual!!
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LOL. Might have a problem getting that through the annual!!
Was thinking that someone spent some time with a file.
- oldman
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Was thinking that someone spent some time with a file.
- oldman
I'm guessing flak damage... :uhoh
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I'd like to point out that now, it's almost impossible to tell the difference between a colourized photo, a photo that's been cleaned up, and a natural colour photo. It's done so well with new software these days...
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I'm guessing flak damage... :uhoh
That prop nick I would bet money on being caused by a rock during runup or takeoff. Typical type damage, have filed a few of those out myself.
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That prop nick I would bet money on being caused by a rock during runup or takeoff. Typical type damage, have filed a few of those out myself.
True enough Colmbo - most of the airstrips they were using were either grass or dirt - most starting off as grass, then a few heavy take-off's in the rain, those 'grass' strips turn to mud real quick and then you end up with a 'dirt strip' for a runway. (And that is from my own military experience) :salute
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That prop nick I would bet money on being caused by a rock during runup or takeoff. Typical type damage, have filed a few of those out myself.
Leading edges of the props have lots of abrasion issues.
An aviation expert who used to post on this board would tell you, you couldn't file down the nick.
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Leading edges of the props have lots of abrasion issues.
An aviation expert who used to post on this board would tell you, you couldn't file down the nick.
Well at least in the US you can but there are limits as to depth, etc. I used to see so many inexperienced guys do damage to props from simply increasing power too quickly during takeoff, or the most common problem stopping the airplane to do a power check/runup. If you're on gravel you keep the airplane rolling as you do a quick power check, it doesn't take a lot of forward speed to prevent the debris from hitting the prop. Some bush guys I knew would do there runup/mag check on downwind before landing.
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An aviation expert who used to post on this board would tell you, you couldn't file down the nick.
https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2013/july/08/propeller-care-preventive-maintenance
He probably qualifies as an aviation expert, too.
- oldman
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Capt. George D. Green with his P-51D, mid 1944. Aircraft serial 44-14137 - P-51D - 335FS, 4th FG - designation was strangely 'WD-KK'. Capt. George D Green's (http://www.americanairmuseum.com/person/75572) plane, called 'Suzanne' and had a RARE extra 'K' designation. Due to allocation error.
Green is known for doing something brilliant and at the same time, completely reckless. Anyone remember what it was?
George Green picked up his squadron CO behind enemy lines in March 1945. Jack Ilfrey rescued his wingman in November 1944 and Royce Priest (354FS/355FG) picked up his CO Bert Marshall (my father) August 18, 1944 for the first piggy back rescue in ETO. otherwise I would not be posting here today.
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World War Two. 18th January, 1945. Asia. British Carrier-Borne aircraft Strike at Japanese Occupied Sumatra, Indonesia in the Pacific. A pilot of the Hellcat fighter plane.
Ed note: anyone know who this guy is?
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B-17F Flying Fortress 'Mary Ruth - Memories of Mobile' of the 91st Bomb Group, US Eighth Air Force, on a mission to attack the U-boat pens at Lorient, May 1943
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A crew from the 16th/5th Lancers, 6th Armoured Division, cleaning the gun barrel of their Crusader tank at El Aroussa in Tunisia, May 1943
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We all know this airplane. It's one of the skins available for the 51D. Lieutenant Vernon R Richards of the 361st Fighter Group fliying his P-51D Mustang nicknamed 'Tika IV', during a bomber escort mission in 1944
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Some rare IJA photos. Early Tony I think. Wish I knew who the pilots were.
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Anyone remember what this was called? :x
(it never saw combat)
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NT
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A crew from the 16th/5th Lancers, 6th Armoured Division, cleaning the gun barrel of their Crusader tank at El Aroussa in Tunisia, May 1943
A myth, perpetrated by the British. They're actually loading the cannon. They didn't put breech-loaders on their tanks until near the end of the war.
- oldman (those are all nice photos, Fork, thanks)
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We used to repair our ultralight wood props with a mixture of superglue and baking soda.
Well at least in the US you can but there are limits as to depth, etc. I used to see so many inexperienced guys do damage to props from simply increasing power too quickly during takeoff, or the most common problem stopping the airplane to do a power check/runup. If you're on gravel you keep the airplane rolling as you do a quick power check, it doesn't take a lot of forward speed to prevent the debris from hitting the prop. Some bush guys I knew would do there runup/mag check on downwind before landing.
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A myth, perpetrated by the British. They're actually loading the cannon. They didn't put breech-loaders on their tanks until near the end of the war.
- oldman (those are all nice photos, Fork, thanks)
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Yeah, it often left their gun crews exposed while they ran outside to load the power first, then the wadding, then the shell. And then they ran inside to light the fuse. Kinda like a clown car at a circus during battle :D
I'm not sure which job was worse during WWII for Allied forces, infantry soldier or tank crew? Panzer divisions were notoriously battle hardened in their superior tanks designed to actually protect their crews, ease of operation, and allow easy egress to escape... not much could be said for American and British tanks, especially the Sherman....however...
Am I the only one who thinks Soviet tanks were designed around the function of the machine and not the operators? (Soviet accent) "To heel wit da crewz, we feiht for Stalinnn'