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Title: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on April 23, 2018, 10:50:44 AM
Got one coming on Wednesday. Any of you guys have one? I'm assured it's all routine and the risks are minimal. Kelly's kinda worried. Her mom died from complications during one a couple years ago. Been watching YouTube vids:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHp8wayCAv0
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: colmbo on April 23, 2018, 11:23:45 AM
What exact procedure?  I've had a heart cath done where they inject dye to check for blockages, I didn't have any issues.  I've also had one where they put a probe in the heart to stimulate trying to induce ventricular fibrillation or ventricular tachycardia, they were unable to induce any rhythm issues.

Both procedures were reasonable easy.  I'm not big on needle sticks so having someone putting a catheter into the femoral vein wasn't great but tolerable.  For the second procedure I told the doc I wasn't great with needles to he gave me a bit of propofol before starting...easy peasy! :)

Good luck with our procedure.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on April 23, 2018, 11:40:01 AM
Checking for blockages. I had a buddy go in for just that but they also put in stints when they saw what was there (and twice more since). All those delicious steaks and I never once considered that the cows were plotting revenge.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: fuzeman on April 23, 2018, 12:55:58 PM
I got dyed on the last day of 1993 after a minor 'cardiac event' and they found a cardiac bridge but the procedure went OK. They talked about stents but I have not had any issues with it since and am stent-free.
My dad had one too and the site where they went in, around the groin, leaked a little and his leg got swollen but you should be able to notice something like that fast if your aware.
Wouldn't sweat it as long as the facility is competent.

Good luck.  :aok
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: bustr on April 23, 2018, 01:12:48 PM
Grain fed beef has an imbalance of omega-3 to omega-6 fatty acid. Because of the grain the meat is too high in omega-6 which causes conditions that increase heart disease outcomes. Add to that sugar which your body sees anything made from wheat as sugar along with alcohol, and you are eating your self to death. Grass fed beef has the correct balance of 3 to 6. Many vegetable oils are saturated with 6 though olive and avocado oil are saturated with 3. I was in ICU in 2014 to learn about this the hard way.

I've had to change my diet to vegetables and pork\chicken\fish\range fed beef or no beef. I eat some super market beef now, and my numbers for the next week or two go to heck and freak my doctor. Same if I drink some wine or indulge with bread or pasta. Once you train your body to like those things for your whole life, you can never untrain the reactions from your body that will kill you after you change your diet away from them. And you are always slightly unsatisfied when you stop eating wheat products no matter how much veggies and protein you stuff yourself with to try and turn off your appetite.

What has created our heart problems is being addicted to certain kinds of food over our life times. Once you stop eating them, it's easy about 30 days in to see your body reacting to smells and images like a drug junky to heroin. I have to eat a sugar substitute called stevia to fool my brain becasue I get sugar cravings and I use dry roasted peanuts to take the place of my wheat cravings. Once you stop eating sugar and wheat products, you loose weight and it clears up acid reflex. Your BP and cholesterol tend to comedown too, it may also be becasue I eat oatmeal with almonds every morning now. Oatmeal reduces cholesterol and almonds effect BP.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on April 23, 2018, 01:13:07 PM
Thanks, guys. University Medical Center in Lubbock is top notch and my doc got 4 stars on Yelp. (J/K that last part).
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on April 23, 2018, 01:17:00 PM
That's a lot of good advice, Bustr. Thanks. Growing old sucks but the alternative is worse.  :salute
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Gman on April 23, 2018, 01:58:42 PM
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Thanks, guys. University Medical Center in Lubbock is top notch and my doc got 4 stars on Yelp. (J/K that last part).

Good to hear Arlo.

Is this the type of test where they go in through the artery down in your leg? If so, just be careful with the plug they insert there afterwards.  If not, well, not a worry, and it's not really a worry anyway, just keep a close eye on it like they'll tell you.

Post after it's over, best of luck.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on April 23, 2018, 02:04:40 PM
Plug?  :confused: :bolt:
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: 1ijac on April 23, 2018, 02:42:59 PM
I'm sure you will do just fine Arlo. 

Best wishes,

One-eye   :aok
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on April 23, 2018, 03:03:29 PM
Thanks, One-eye. I'll keep a mole-hill perspective.  :)
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: BaldEagl on April 23, 2018, 03:18:42 PM
I got a stent in my right coronary artery back in about 1998.  They knocked me silly with liquid valium but not so much that I went out.  I remember during the procedure seeing a big x-ray on the wall of my arteries and the doctors were working on me with a big sheet hanging between my upper body and them.  At one point they asked me to cough.  That's why they don't completely knock you out but you don't care.

Afterward they put a dissolvable plug in the hole they make near your shaved groin and you have to lay on your back for 12-24 hours with a weight on the plug until it cauterizes. During that time a nurse came in and wanted me to pee in a bottle.  I told her that wasn't going to work with her standing over me so she left for a while.  That didn't help.  I still couldn't pee so when she came back she stuck a catheter up my noodle.  I was begging her to stop.  It was the most pain I've ever experienced.

A week or two later my then wife and I were out for a walk in the nature preserve near our home.  We got off the trails and got lost.  After a couple of hours my leg would start to numb up and I'd have to stop to get the blood flowing again.  The plug was evidently still there and restricting blood flow.  Thank God we found our way out without having to back-track before the winter sun set.

Other than the catheter and the walk it was easy.  Good luck.


Auto correct to noodle?  Sheesh.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: FESS67 on April 23, 2018, 04:19:28 PM
I have had 2.  Standard procedure now.  It is cool to watch it all on the screen and if they need to put a stent in they will do it there and then.  Synthetic plugs now and out of hospital back home before you know it. You will be fine.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: ghi on April 23, 2018, 09:29:36 PM
Good luck man, sending positive quantum waves! 


Mike Tyson: "I Became a Vegan"     https://youtu.be/Vc-DeGEXAmM

Arnold Schwarzenegger on Going Vegan    https://youtu.be/2GkWRe_9WQE
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: ROC on April 23, 2018, 10:59:06 PM
Good luck Arlo, you'll be ok.  New technology is always making procedures like those better.
Watch for clots, I just had the pleasure of a deep vein clot and it broke and hit my lungs.  Yay Me!  Two weeks unable to walk, one week on my back, one in a wheelchair, I'm up and around again past two weeks now.  Just do what the doctors tell you!
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: nooby52 on April 24, 2018, 07:19:00 AM
Take care of herself, wingnut. VF-17 is rootin' for ya. :airplane: :salute
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: oboe on April 24, 2018, 07:38:37 AM
Holding a good thought for you Arlo.   Let us know how it goes! 
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on April 24, 2018, 08:12:58 AM
Take care of herself, wingnut. VF-17 is rootin' for ya. :airplane: :salute

Thanks, South! Plannin' to fly this summer. :)
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on April 24, 2018, 08:14:48 AM
Good luck Arlo, you'll be ok.  New technology is always making procedures like those better.
Watch for clots, I just had the pleasure of a deep vein clot and it broke and hit my lungs.  Yay Me!  Two weeks unable to walk, one week on my back, one in a wheelchair, I'm up and around again past two weeks now.  Just do what the doctors tell you!

Holy Moses, ROC! I'm more worried bout you than me!  :(
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: nooby52 on April 24, 2018, 08:17:53 AM
Lol, I typed "yerself", but auto correct inserted what it wanted.

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Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Puma44 on April 24, 2018, 09:44:50 AM
You’ll do fine Arlo.  I experienced an angiogram several years ago.  It was pretty much a non event in the big scheme of things.  Follow the medical instructions and it’ll be a thing of the past. 
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on April 24, 2018, 09:50:47 AM
Lol, I typed "yerself", but auto correct inserted what it wanted.

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I'll take care of herself, too. ;)
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Mister Fork on April 24, 2018, 10:28:41 AM
My son had a heart surgery via a catheter in his legs. Was a complete success but hair raising for any parent. He came out tired but was his usual self within 24 hours - not bad for a procedure that required open heart surgery 5 years ago. With the new way of using your own veins to tunnel their way to your heart and do work, it's amazing. 

Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Gman on April 24, 2018, 02:17:15 PM
I should have been more specific about the plug - it's no big deal, just one of the primary things they say to watch, as if they move too much after you leave the hospital, you just have to put pressure on it and go back to one and have it reinserted.  This almost NEVER happens, extremely rare, but it is the thing to watch for is all.  Don't worry Arlo, you'll blow though this just fine.

Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: ROC on April 25, 2018, 01:47:27 PM
Thoughts are with you today Arlo.  Be well my friend.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on April 25, 2018, 05:10:35 PM
You guys were right. Piece of cake. Gotta type one (left) handed because they went through the wrist instead of the groin (though they prepped me for either/or). Wide awake the entire time. No stints or bypasses. Same modified diet I was already on but increased exercise was stressed. Nurse gave me a weird look when I asked how soon before I can grab my joystick.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: oboe on April 25, 2018, 05:15:26 PM
Great news, Arlo!
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: ROC on April 25, 2018, 05:35:02 PM
Good news!  So glad it all went well!
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: colmbo on April 25, 2018, 07:00:21 PM
Nurse gave me a weird look when I asked how soon before I can grab my joystick.

Maybe she was worried you were going to use hers. :)
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: fuzeman on April 25, 2018, 07:01:24 PM
"Nurse gave me a weird look when I asked how soon before I can grab my joystick."  I bet  :confused:


Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Puma44 on April 25, 2018, 09:00:39 PM
Atta boy Arlo!
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Gman on April 26, 2018, 06:02:42 PM
Good news Arlo, glad it went well.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Ramesis on April 27, 2018, 07:55:55 AM
Was there any doubt?
Wtg Arlo
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: caldera on April 27, 2018, 08:17:36 AM
Congrats on your health, Arlo.  Will have a steak in your honor.   :D
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on April 27, 2018, 09:28:23 AM
Congrats on your health, Arlo.  Will have a steak in your honor.   :D

You fek. ;)
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: nooby52 on April 27, 2018, 03:48:33 PM
Good show old boy. I knew you could do it.

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Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on April 28, 2018, 07:05:19 AM
Good show old boy. I knew you could do it.

They warned me I would be in a wakeful sedation. That I probably wouldn't remember a thing. I was literally able to memorize the room and everyone's masked face. But there wasn't any real pain. We all joked the entire time. If only there was some drinking alcohol.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: TequilaChaser on April 29, 2018, 06:18:12 PM
Am glad to hear that all went well for you Arlo! is great news

Also am sorry to hear what you recently had to go through ROC and hope you are doing well



 :salute

TC /  Johnny
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: MiloMorai on May 01, 2018, 05:30:39 AM
Now that it is over Arlo will tell you of my experience. Had stents put in twice. The first time all went well but not the second time.

Was laying the bed with the clamp off talking to the nurse and could fell myself passing out. I did, from the heart racing (there is a word but can't remember the word). Went into cardiac arrest and they had to put the paddles to me. Was revived as I am typing this. ;) Being zapped caused the body to jump. Awake and say to the nurse I feel all wet and sticky in the groin. Panic by the staff as they realize that the point of incision has opened up and am bleeding to death. Get the clamp back on and stop the bleeding.

The nurse was not so gentle cleaning up the blood mess so I told her to be more careful as I might want to use what she is cleaning. We had a good laugh at that.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on May 01, 2018, 09:15:26 AM
Milo! Man! I'm glad you survived it but damned sorry you had to go through it. Yes, thank you for not sharing that up front. It would have made me cancel and never rebook.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: MiloMorai on May 01, 2018, 10:53:16 AM
Thanks Arlo.

Last June went for a heart test. Again they went in thru the groin, vein not artery, inserting electrods that attached the wall of the heart. Don't know how many times was zapped as was out after the first zap and woke up outside the OR. The test was to check if the scar tissue from the heart attacks was interfering in heart function. It wasn't. Dragged my bellybutton for many months afterwards like I did after the heart attacks.

Side note. Doc asked if I jumped around from being zapped and should I be strapped to the table.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: ROC on May 01, 2018, 12:45:51 PM
Milo!  So glad you are doing better, that would have been a horrible experience. 
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: MiloMorai on May 01, 2018, 05:20:48 PM
Thanks ROC. Strange neither heart attack (Feb '97, Dec '00) fazed me. Thought, if my time is up, my time is up. Same with the bleeding to death.

In both heart attacks, and both had different indicators, there was NO chest pain.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Yeager on May 06, 2018, 09:31:47 PM
What were the indicators?
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on May 06, 2018, 09:53:55 PM
What were the indicators?

My blood pressure bottom number isn't staying low enough. Doc said my heart isn't pumping as effectively. The stress test came out good but they couldn't get a clear image through sonogram (chest wall too thick). So they went in to check for blockages and such. No stint or bypass needed. Still gotta start eating like a Buddhist monk.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: MiloMorai on May 06, 2018, 11:12:31 PM
What were the indicators?

1st one: cold clammy sweat and needed to crap
2cd one: numbness in left arm and an ache in the jaw

Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on May 07, 2018, 07:03:23 AM
1st one: cold clammy sweat and needed to crap
2cd one: numbness in left arm and an ache in the jaw

My bad. I thought it was directed to me.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: 8thJinx on May 11, 2018, 08:37:34 AM
Still gotta start eating like a Buddhist monk.

I started eating right when I hit 48.  I can honestly say I feel great.  Just from good nutrition.  No more aches, pains.  Knees are great.  No more bloating or reflux.  I've had positional PVCs my entire life, and while I know they're there, I don't feel or notice them as often as I once did.  Cardiologist says I have the green light.

Key measures that drive my entire nutrition plan:
4700 mg potassium / 2000 mg sodium a day
4800 mg n-3/day at 3:1 ratio with n-6 (n-6:n-3)
420 mg magnesium a day
30/40/30 macros
30 g fiber/day
<15 g added sugar/day
Never ever ever eat a meal or meal component made in a factory

If I hit those marks each day, through real food and no supplements or vitamin pills, I know I'm eating healthy.  I don't really look at total calories, because if you're eating real food and hitting those marks you get stuffed pretty quick with veggies.  The only real supplement I take is a little protein powder in my oatmeal.
Title: Re: Heart Cath Procedure
Post by: Arlo on May 11, 2018, 08:44:02 AM
I started eating right when I hit 48.  I can honestly say I feel great.  Just from good nutrition.  No more aches, pains.  Knees are great.  No more bloating or reflux.  I've had positional PVCs my entire life, and while I know they're there, I don't feel or notice them as often as I once did.  Cardiologist says I have the green light.

Key measures that drive my entire nutrition plan:
4700 mg potassium / 2000 mg sodium a day
4800 mg n-3/day at 3:1 ratio with n-6 (n-6:n-3)
420 mg magnesium a day
30/40/30 macros
30 g fiber/day
<15 g added sugar/day
Never ever ever eat a meal or meal component made in a factory

If I hit those marks each day, through real food and no supplements or vitamin pills, I know I'm eating healthy.  I don't really look at total calories, because if you're eating real food and hitting those marks you get stuffed pretty quick with veggies.  The only real supplement I take is a little protein powder in my oatmeal.

*takes notes* You've got this down pat.  :cool: