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Title: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: RELIC on June 06, 2018, 07:33:02 PM
I'd like to do some shameless self promotion and give congrats to Death From Above on our 20th anniversary.  DFA was originally comprised of ex members from the Riders of the Apocalypse squad (ROA) in Air Warrior.  Nobody seems to know for sure the exact date when DFA was formed, but the consensus from the "old timers" in the squad is early in June, 1998.  So June 6th with it's historical significance seemed like a good date.
I joined DFA in 1999 (fuzzy memory here  - thanks scotch) and have been the CO (on and off) since.  During all these years the squad has been fully active in Air Warrior and then in Aces High.
I'd like to thank all the great folks I have met in DFA over the years, our friends and foes in the virtual skies, and the creators of both Air Warrior and Aces High for providing the playground that has given us so many years of entertainment.
Here's hoping for 20 more years.   :salute
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: DFALeto on June 06, 2018, 07:41:41 PM
Congrats everyone! :salute :airplane:
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: xTITANx on June 06, 2018, 08:05:28 PM
I’ve been part of DFA off and on since Airwarrior. Great bunch of guys. Had the pleasure of meeting a few in person. The game is as good as the people playing, along with what Hitech and his crew have been able to accomplish for a small company. 
Thanks for all the good and drunk times TITAN
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Brooke on June 06, 2018, 10:34:17 PM
Congratulations!

DFA has a mighty and proud history!  :rock

There was a Death From Above squadron in Air Warrior from 1991.

Here's them appearing in scoring for Air Warrior campaign #65.   :aok

WW II Fighter Squadrons as of 14:07EST  11/15/91
  Score   Squad    Name
  602958  4898 <--)-Musketeers-TFW--
  575083  2112 HiTech for President
  416835  2300 +GunFighters+ 4TH FBG
  416089  6471 FUBARS
  368381  1386 >>WARHAWKS<< 4th FBG
  245718  1647 SNAFU
  179541  1025 Death From Above
  165379  5940 Bastard -=<4Q>=- Squad
  163287  2535 MISSIONARIES
  120910  4725 <--)-Musketeers-TBW--
   91054   701 Werepigeons
   40186  5954 RCAF*Canucks
   26811  4490 527TH TFW Aggressors
   16666  5505 *WARHAWKS II* 4TH FBG
   15474  2606 56TH FG "THE WOLFPACK"
   12396  6379 527th TFW (Aggressors)
   11220  1577 
    8681    33 Head*Hunters
    8139   949 Squadron 949
    6252  3827 >ADfH<
    5190  4564 Squadron 4564
    4998  1699 COUNCIL (527th Aux.)
    2273  2548 (American Iraqi Killers
    1896  1326 527th TFS
    1504  4311 =>Dagorhir<=
    1384  5956 Squadron 5956
    1084    20 Squadron 20
     446   191 Squadron 191
     277  1913 TrueBlue
     244  3331 IntSec
     233  4583 Mad Bombers
     216  4785 Flying Tomatoes
     175  6843 Squadron 6843
      28  3144 -_THE RED EAGLES_-
      25  1452 CHEETAS
      12   167 Midnight Raiders
       9  3059 Squadron 3059
       5  1296 Squadron 1296

Note also a crazy squad named "HiTech for President".  :aok
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Brooke on June 06, 2018, 10:37:44 PM
The best way for DFA to celebrate is to join us in the "Fjord Fury" scenario on Saturday.  :aok

Scenarios were invented by Dok in Air Warrior in 1992.  I suspect the old Air Warrior DFA guys flew in it.

So, for the sake of history -- time for DFA to be in a scenario!  :banana:
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: hgtonyvi on June 06, 2018, 11:26:20 PM
 :salute
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: 1stpar3 on June 06, 2018, 11:33:22 PM
 :eek: 1991 :uhoh Dang,2 years out of High School. INTERNET? Heck TVA didnt get online till 93,94. Dad was Nuclear side....I got to play around with his Internet one night, when they doing an outage. :aok NEVER knew :salute AND NO, I didnt break anything :rofl
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Brooke on June 06, 2018, 11:38:22 PM
By the way, it is possible DFA was around before 1991.

I have a gap in Air Warrior scores from Feb 1989 to Dec of 1991, so I can't check those periods.
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: 1stpar3 on June 06, 2018, 11:46:14 PM
What sort of NETWORK was this,I should have known about it...? Sort of glad I didnt though...I would have been worlds worst husband and Father :devil 20yo kids still in diapers bad :uhoh IF I could afford them that is :rofl Now that I think about it...None of that would have happened! Would have never been married :rofl WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS :furious  Heck I was ELATED to get a hold of ACE COMBAT for PlayStation 1...in 96-97 ish  :uhoh Before that was only Microsoft F-15 Strike Eagle on a Commodore 64 :old: Kind of feel cheated a bit  :headscratch:
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Brooke on June 07, 2018, 12:52:55 AM
Back in late 1980's and early 1990's, there were Air Warrior folks who spent many hours per day and $750/month on Air Warrior (which is $1400 in 2018 dollars).

When I first came across Air Warrior in 1987, I flew a few times and then stayed completely away from it, as otherwise I feared that I would spend enough time on it to be ruined.

I returned to it years later when I figured out how I could manage it.

It was glorious.

People these days don't know how good they have it and don't even care.  :old:
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Bruv119 on June 07, 2018, 04:22:06 AM
congrats on your squadron anniversary.  :aok

Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: wrench on June 07, 2018, 07:11:45 AM
 :aok  :salute
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Rebel28 on June 07, 2018, 07:55:42 AM
Oh my what a flashback... Airwarrior Play it FREE on AOL. Having to upgrade my modem from 33.6 to and brand new v.90 for the blazing fast speed of 56k. Flying with the Rebel Rousers. How far we have come.  :old:
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: 1stpar3 on June 07, 2018, 01:43:11 PM
Back in late 1980's and early 1990's, there were Air Warrior folks who spent many hours per day and $750/month on Air Warrior (which is $1400 in 2018 dollars).

When I first came across Air Warrior in 1987, I flew a few times and then stayed completely away from it, as otherwise I feared that I would spend enough time on it to be ruined.

I returned to it years later when I figured out how I could manage it.

It was glorious.

People these days don't know how good they have it and don't even care.  :old:
YES! That was why I am TORN. POed I didnt know about it...but GREATFULL I didnt :uhoh In my area of Chattanooga,Tn., we didnt even have dial-up internet till around Windows98. Even then though,never heard of an ON-LINE PvP flight sim :(  It was CombatFlightSimulator 1,2 and3  with some Jane's F-15. So again, pretty ok with not knowing about this, then. :O Wish I still had my Force Feedback joystick that I used with those games :rock  Thanks to YOU GUYS who suffered through The Dark Ages, as those trials led to this MOST GLORIOUS of days for a Flight Sim lover  :rock
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: JimmyC on June 07, 2018, 02:44:05 PM
Congrats DFA
Great achievement
Here's to 20 more years  :cheers:
JimmyC 71RAF
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: FLS on June 07, 2018, 05:00:33 PM
Congratulations!  :cheers:

Congratulations!

...

Note also a crazy squad named "HiTech for President".  :aok

 :rock
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Brooke on June 07, 2018, 06:23:12 PM
In my area of Chattanooga,Tn., we didnt even have dial-up internet till around Windows98.

Yep, not much Internet in those 1987-1991 days (mainly academic only).  Air Warrior was running on an online service called "GEnie", which you accessed via dial-in modem.

At first, it was $6/hour non-prime time.

Ah, those were the days . . .  :aok
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: waystin2 on June 07, 2018, 06:59:13 PM
Here here  :aok
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: RELIC on June 07, 2018, 07:15:16 PM
The best way for DFA to celebrate is to join us in the "Fjord Fury" scenario on Saturday.  :aok

Scenarios were invented by Dok in Air Warrior in 1992.  I suspect the old Air Warrior DFA guys flew in it.

So, for the sake of history -- time for DFA to be in a scenario!  :banana:

I've flown in some of the scenarios and you do a great job Brooke!  I might be able to swing this Sat - you still got a K4 open?
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Brooke on June 07, 2018, 08:03:39 PM
Absolutely.  Would love for you to fly a k4.   :aok
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: CAV on June 08, 2018, 04:50:15 PM

Quote
By the way, it is possible DFA was around before 1991.

I have not been a member of DFA since the beginning, only the last few years, but I recall a DFA Squadron in my GEnie days and on AOL & GameStorm. Unfortunately the original founding members are more noted for their adult beverage consumption than record-keeping.  :cheers:


CAVALRY
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Max on June 08, 2018, 05:02:57 PM
Back in late 1980's and early 1990's, there were Air Warrior folks who spent many hours per day and $750/month on Air Warrior (which is $1400 in 2018 dollars).

When I first came across Air Warrior in 1987, I flew a few times and then stayed completely away from it, as otherwise I feared that I would spend enough time on it to be ruined.

I returned to it years later when I figured out how I could manage it.

It was glorious.

People these days don't know how good they have it and don't even care.  :old:

Brooke I came across AW/Mac around '96 On AOL-Gamestorm. Events are somewhat fuzzy but I recall some "back door" that kept the cost down to very little, if anything at all. (I do remember the Genie stories of woe  :devil)  Anyway, I remember printing out a hundred + pages from the AWTA or whatever it was called...the training manual that you were chiefly responsible for. So I guess I have you to partially blame for wasting thousands and thousands of hours over the years.  :airplane:
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Brooke on June 08, 2018, 06:19:48 PM
So I guess I have you to partially blame for wasting thousands and thousands of hours over the years.  :airplane:

:aok
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: xbrit on June 08, 2018, 06:20:46 PM
Congrats and best wishes for the next 20.
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Wraith_TMS on June 09, 2018, 05:42:11 PM
Congrats to the DFA.   :salute  :cheers:

Brooke and others have mentioned some of the records from that early AW era and it took me a while to remember that I'd compiled a lot of that stuff on our old Musketeers' site, which is no more.  The cobwebs cleared in my ole noggin' and I found copies of them on my local machine, in PDF format.  I've placed those files in a Google Drive Folder, simply called AW History (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fMVR2Cl5wmuEXYVfjOn3E-7EwAdDGn4D?usp=sharing).

Submitted for your reading pleasure: print-outs of the old Crash & Burn forum, our Musketeers' Bloody Blade forum, and many early campaign scores, as well as a couple of other files.   If what you read stirs up old memories or rekindles angry old rivalries, rest assured, it's just my intent to save some of that shared history for posterity's sake.  Hope some of you enjoy the trip down memory lane.   :old:  :airplane:

FWIW,

Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Brooke on June 09, 2018, 05:52:24 PM
Sweet!  I'll be downloading that!  :aok

Congrats to the DFA.   :salute  :cheers:

Brooke and others have mentioned some of the records from that early AW era and it took me a while to remember that I'd compiled a lot of that stuff on our old Musketeers' site, which is no more.  The cobwebs cleared in my ole noggin' and I found copies of them on my local machine, in PDF format.  I've placed those files in a Google Drive Folder, simply called AW History (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fMVR2Cl5wmuEXYVfjOn3E-7EwAdDGn4D?usp=sharing).

Submitted for your reading pleasure: print-outs of the old Crash & Burn forum, our Musketeers' Bloody Blade forum, and many early campaign scores, as well as a couple of other files.   If what you read stirs up old memories or rekindles angry old rivalries, rest assured, it's just my intent to save some of that shared history for posterity's sake.  Hope some of you enjoy the trip down memory lane.   :old:  :airplane:

FWIW,
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Hajo on June 09, 2018, 08:07:25 PM
Congrats to DFA!   :salute
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: 27th on June 09, 2018, 08:30:46 PM
Congratulations D.F.A. and happy anniversary!   :cheers:  :joystick: :airplane:


 :salute
27th

On Behalf of...
TAs AeroFighters
TAs Peacemakers
TAs Short Bus Window Lickers
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: RELIC on June 10, 2018, 04:46:40 PM
DFA newsletters have some squad data from AW.  This is from Sept 1999:

Bomber Scores
Squad
1 Death From Above       T-RED    9411528
2 Point Hoes          Sketr    7937826
3 Sealed Fate          WoLfX    2235561

Fighter Scores
Squad
1 =416 Lynx= Tactical Fighter    Manx    4029325
2 =Strike Force=          #WOwl    3059875
3 |||AirWolves|||          Airhd    2176595
4 DE’OL’ONZ of Air Warrior    OLDMn    1996188
5 479th Raiders          CORN-    1946605
Title: Re: DFA 20th Anniversary
Post by: Molsman on June 10, 2018, 05:32:29 PM
DFA newsletters have some squad data from AW.  This is from Sept 1999:

Bomber Scores
Squad
1 Death From Above       T-RED    9411528
2 Point Hoes          Sketr    7937826
3 Sealed Fate          WoLfX    2235561

Fighter Scores
Squad
1 =416 Lynx= Tactical Fighter    Manx    4029325
2 =Strike Force=          #WOwl    3059875
3 |||AirWolves|||          Airhd    2176595
4 DE’OL’ONZ of Air Warrior    OLDMn    1996188
5 479th Raiders          CORN-    1946605

Congrats DFA
Dam alot of Old Squads there I was either flying with the 416th or DeOlonz back then I forget lol but I did ride with the Raiders also

Mr. Fussbuster!!!!!! You mean I been playing this game longer then you lol  :devil :devil :devil