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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Chalenge on July 12, 2018, 10:14:03 AM
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For the first time ever I was able to do a custom install of the Nvidia driver and when I unchecked the audio drivers, the installer did as I asked and did not install the audio drivers. This is a great day! Still installing the telemetry, though.
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Well it is a step. You can use autoruns to remove the telemetry.
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For the first time ever I was able to do a custom install of the Nvidia driver and when I unchecked the audio drivers, the installer did as I asked and did not install the audio drivers. This is a great day! Still installing the telemetry, though.
I noticed this as well. :banana:
Coogan
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I too noticed lack of audio drivers install last time I installed new NVIDIA drivers, I think an ealrier version about a month or so back.....
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What is "autorun" ?
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What is "autorun" ?
Autoruns is a program for finding and managing programs that automatically run at system startup. Originally it was published by Sysinternals which was then bought by Microsoft.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns)
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Well it is a step. You can use autoruns to remove the telemetry.
I know you posted that just to remind everyone that comes along later! :aok
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,393149.msg5218415.html#msg5218415
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Installed the new driver and it still installed the audio drivers even though I had unchecked in the custom menu. Had to uninstall in the System panel.
New driver does seem to have improved my frame rate a bit -- though I didn't do a careful before/after comparison. Also, haven't seen the "texture error" when mousing over a field yet, but it doesn't always show up right away.
Thanks for the Autoruns info -- disabled the telemetry as advertised. :aok
So far.... so good. :D
Spoke too soon, still getting the texture error.
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I wouldn't run anything like AutoRun or BlackViper to kill processes.
Your OS may depend on a lot of those processes you're killing. (just because somebody said it's ok) :headscratch:
Coogan
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I wouldn't run anything like AutoRun or BlackViper to kill processes.
Your OS may depend on a lot of those processes you're killing. (just because somebody said it's ok) :headscratch:
Coogan
BlackViper has been a trusted site for YEARS. I have used it to turn a junk desktop into a playable one long enough to save enough money to upgrade.
Dont "poo-poo" something until you have done a bit of research on it.
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BlackViper has been a trusted site for YEARS. I have used it to turn a junk desktop into a playable one long enough to save enough money to upgrade.
Dont "poo-poo" something until you have done a bit of research on it.
And what do you assume you know of my research?
Coogan
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And what do you assume you know of my research?
Coogan
BlackViper does a good job of explaining what each process does and whether it is safe or not to disable. There are different options depending on how much resources you want to free up.
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Autoruns can be dangerous and you do need to know what you are doing if you want to really streamline things. If you do not know what something is, it is easy enough to search for it on the net and find out that it is and why it is there.
On its on, it does not do anything at all. It requires you to actually click things to remove/stop them, so simply running it will give you an idea of what Windows is loading up and running in the background.
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And what do you assume you know of my research?
Coogan
as AKAK says.....
BlackViper does a good job of explaining what each process does and whether it is safe or not to disable. There are different options depending on how much resources you want to free up.
Which is something you would have known if you had researched his site instead of throwing out a blanket statement.
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BlackViper's guides, and that's all they are - - guides, will tell you what you need to know about what processes your particular OS is generally running at startup, what it does and why it needs to run. Or not. The guides are tailored for each OS and are reflective of a clean install without anything else going on. Great info to start tweaking your PC for gaming. Now, any other softwares you're running may invoke processes in support of what they're trying to do in addition to the windows processes. Some of it needs to run, say if you want sound or video! But some of it is pretty much BS(like this telemetry crap) that's just draining away clock cycles and /or bits on the internet.
Anyone even thinking of doing any of this should do more than a little bit of research on every process you might want to kill. Make sure before you just kill it that you CAN safely do so without doing damage to your install. Don't EVER kill a process without knowing exactly what it is. If you're not sure - - Google is your friend. If you're still not clear - - leave it alone! Can't stress that enough.
I haven't used autoruns but it sounds like it does a lot of the same stuff you can accomplish in the control panel, just with an automatic interface. Even so, the same rules I stated above apply. If you don't know what it is leave it the heck alone. It'll save you a bucket of hassle!
Of course, you wouldn't have to do any of this stuff if you are just gonna surf or word process. But chopping away all that extra drag from your CPU and memory can help you wring some extra performance out of your rig for gaming.
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as AKAK says.....
Which is something you would have known if you had researched his site instead of throwing out a blanket statement.
Whatever floats your boat. When you brick your PC, maybe you won't talk so high and mighty.
Coogan
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Whatever floats your boat. When you brick your PC, maybe you won't talk so high and mighty.
Coogan
LOL!!! ok, so your saying you didnt look into Vipers site and now your trying to cover up youe lack of knowledge. No problem, 20 years of messing with computers and many of them using Vipers info and I havent "bricked" a computer yet.
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Why do you need to not install nvidia audio drivers
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Anyone even thinking of doing any of this should do more than a little bit of research on every process you might want to kill. Make sure before you just kill it that you CAN safely do so without doing damage to your install. Don't EVER kill a process without knowing exactly what it is. If you're not sure - - Google is your friend. If you're still not clear - - leave it alone! Can't stress that enough.
I haven't used autoruns but it sounds like it does a lot of the same stuff you can accomplish in the control panel, just with an automatic interface. Even so, the same rules I stated above apply. If you don't know what it is leave it the heck alone. It'll save you a bucket of hassle!
Of course, you wouldn't have to do any of this stuff if you are just gonna surf or word process. But chopping away all that extra drag from your CPU and memory can help you wring some extra performance out of your rig for gaming.
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Actually autoruns exposes much more than you can find in the Windows Control Panel. Like I said, running it does not do anything but show you everything Windows starts (DLL's, drivers, services, and much, much more). It does not harm or alter anything unless you tell it to.
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Why do you need to not install nvidia audio drivers
Primarily because of the way Windows handles audio devices and is probably a resource issue. Onboard sound chips put a greater demand on the CPU, obviously, but if you then add a USB audio device that requires CPU resources then it gets worse. A dedicated external DAC will not require the same CPU load (probably the minimum you can ask for). Audio on the video card is probably best for monitor or television audio, but not quite up to a dedicated audio device (preferably external as I said). If you have audio drivers installed that you do not use, then you should disable them. That's what you had to do with Nvidia forcing the install as it was, but now they seem to have fixed that issue.
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LOL!!! ok, so your saying you didnt look into Vipers site and now your trying to cover up youe lack of knowledge. No problem, 20 years of messing with computers and many of them using Vipers info and I havent "bricked" a computer yet.
20 years of doing the same thing does in know way make you all that smart. lol
Perhaps you're a hard learner.
Coogan
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20 years of doing the same thing does in no way make you all that smart. lol
Perhaps you're a hard learner.
Coogan
Well I can spell, and do my research to the point of never "bricking" a computer, you on the other hand seem to "poo-poo" ideas with out even bothering to research them. Congrats, your single mindedness will serve you well in the future. :rolleyes:
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Well I can spell, and do my research to the point of never "bricking" a computer, you on the other hand seem to "poo-poo" ideas with out even bothering to research them. Congrats, your single mindedness will serve you well in the future. :rolleyes:
Wow, you got some kind of hard-on for me lately huh?
Coogan
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Ok guys, let's knock it off.
You certainly can brick a computer while shutting down services and that is a risk. Being smart and understanding what you are shutting down is easy to come by.
A program like autoruns will not brick your computer unless you do it. Running it is actually a good way to get a handle on everything the Windows kernel starts up.
Sites like BlackViper are helpful, but I would not suggest anyone blindly start shutting things down. A lot of what is running many be dependent on other applications you have installed. It is imperative to understand what you are shutting down in all cases before you do.
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Primarily because of the way Windows handles audio devices and is probably a resource issue. Onboard sound chips put a greater demand on the CPU, obviously, but if you then add a USB audio device that requires CPU resources then it gets worse. A dedicated external DAC will not require the same CPU load (probably the minimum you can ask for).
So, I've been using the Realtek High Definition audio, which I assume is something on the MB. Would it be worthwhile adding a PCIe sound card?
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So, I've been using the Realtek High Definition audio, which I assume is something on the MB. Would it be worthwhile adding a PCIe sound card?
Theoretically it may take some load off the processor and memory but if you're not suffering from micro freezes and other system hiccups the benefit may not be worth it. If you do, a PCI sound card with processing power of its own can help by taking sound processing off the processor.
Taking the entire sound system outside the box can improve sound quality vastly but if you're only listening to game sounds through a mediocre headset the difference may not be worth it.
If you were an audiophile listening to high fidelity recordings through your system, you'd probably already know all about external DAC's and other high end gear.
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I don't know about "high end." Sound Blaster makes a USB DAC (Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1) that sells for around $60. Unless you are designing sound it's as "high end" as you will probably need.
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I don't know about "high end." Sound Blaster makes a USB DAC (Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1) that sells for around $60. Unless you are designing sound it's as "high end" as you will probably need.
Umm... Yes, there's several external DAC's in that price range, some of which outperform more expensive gear. It seems that the pricing in the audio world is much more complicated than that in the computer world in terms of comparing price and quality.
In my previous post "high end" was used to describe a "sound first" way of thinking using devices not familiar to most computer owners.
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Yeah, I know a little bit about high end. I was sort of "playing" with game sounds for AH, but because of my FMOD video I was approached by a game company to produce audio for them. Long story short, instead of the system I was using I do everything on BURL now. As far as recording for AH though, the weak link is still the field recording method because I cannot afford to pay for isolated, private time with aircraft and vehicles.