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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Shuffler on July 17, 2018, 02:24:39 PM
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Anyone have their home setup as smart home? My home is getting close to the finish from its complete makeover after hurricane Harvey last year. I have been purchasing smart home gear left and right.
My base for voice command and control is google home. All the kitchen appliances are smart devices. Over cooktop microwave, cooktop, double wall oven, dishwasher, and fridge. All are LG and connect to my smart system with voice control. Fridge has the instaview window. All black stainless.
Master bedroom features tempur-pedic split king with full controls that connect to my smart system.
Lights in all rooms will be voice controlled and most will be 16 mil colors and dimmable. The all white lights will have kelvin/temperature control.
The a/c , heat, and garage have been networked for some time already. I even control my router by voice commanx.
Security system I will not go much in to but it is accessible from anywhere I happen to be. Along with a smart video doorbell.
What do yall have setup?
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Not going to happen in my home. Too many security holes in all those IoT devices.
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Not going to happen in my home. Too many security holes in all those IoT devices.
There can be. It is like anything else today, you can't just set it up and be done with it. You have to stay on top of updates and make sure your security settings are not changed in those updates. Keep your ear to the ground for any known security issues.
LOL you deal with all that at work with the servers. I do too to some extent.
I am the Redneck Geek. :rofl
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I cannot fathom how anybody would be willing to hook up their house to the internet.
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There was something I read a little while ago about a person who bought a 'smart home'. The old owner still had access to the home.
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There was something I read a little while ago about a person who bought a 'smart home'. The old owner still had access to the home.
That is what happens when someone blindly goes into a smart home. I would not even start this if I did not have some knowledge of what I was doing.
Would you buy a home that already had a network installed and simply sign on to it? Even common sense would tell you that just ain't right.
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I cannot fathom how anybody would be willing to hook up their house to the internet.
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You do realize that we do not have any self driving cars yet.... don't you? Many people think we do. They are wrong.
As for locking your home with electronic locks, they are pretty secure. Not those of old. Check out Schlage offerings.
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A lot of that smart stuff has hidden warnings in the manuals that specifically say to not say anything sensitive around them due to the fact that it may be received by unwanted persons
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Would you buy a home that already had a network installed and simply sign on to it? Even common sense would tell you that just ain't right.
A helluva lot of people would, yes. Common sense ain't that common.
The security related products may do better, they may not, but I am definitely skeptical that a toaster manufacturer is going to keep their firmware up to date on a regular enough basis to be secure.
Wiley.
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I don't know, my first response to the whole IOT thing is "no." I usually think of it as my juicer spying on me. On the other hand I lost the remote for a few minutes to my TV and I felt greatly inconvenienced at the prospect of having to change the volume by getting up and crossing 10 feet of floor to press a button.
I'm curious where does the voice decoding occur? is it in house or is it in the cloud on some google server? I think the thing that gives me the most pause is not so much that someone will hack my house and set the microwave to kill as much as the idea that there is a microphone listening to me all day.
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A lot of that smart stuff has hidden warnings in the manuals that specifically say to not say anything sensitive around them due to the fact that it may be received by unwanted persons
Yes any voice item has that.... even your phone.
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A helluva lot of people would, yes. Common sense ain't that common.
The security related products may do better, they may not, but I am definitely skeptical that a toaster manufacturer is going to keep their firmware up to date on a regular enough basis to be secure.
Wiley.
Generally the toaster manufacturer does nothing. They either connect to your network or through to a larger network. My a/c connects through my network to it's own base. Access to it is secured by that company. I access it through my phone and can do anything you can do standing at the thermostat. Change temp, flip a/c to heat, turn fans on and off, set schedules, raise or lower humidity. My garage is the same way.
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I don't know, my first response to the whole IOT thing is "no." I usually think of it as my juicer spying on me. On the other hand I lost the remote for a few minutes to my TV and I felt greatly inconvenienced at the prospect of having to change the volume by getting up and crossing 10 feet of floor to press a button.
I'm curious where does the voice decoding occur? is it in house or is it in the cloud on some google server? I think the thing that gives me the most pause is not so much that someone will hack my house and set the microwave to kill as much as the idea that there is a microphone listening to me all day.
Mics on the devices listen but do nothing till they hear the correct phrase. For google home it is "OK Google" or "Hey Google". Then it will take that phrase through its voice recognition, which is at google. This is the same for all voice recognition devices. Even voice remotes do this off premise.
By default it listens for command or question for a very short time then reacts. You can set it so it listens after reacting for a continued conversation... another question or command.
You can have them react to every voice in your family differently. When I talk to it, any list, timers, meetings, or calls are stored on my Note 8 phone. When my wife talks it stores her items on her phone.
At any time you can go online to your private settings on google and see anything you have conversed with google home. From there you can clear it all or keep it. The purpose of this is so you can see exactly what it picks up day to day.
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Do you find that you use voice command a lot, a little? I know I'd like to be able to check that my garage door is closed from my phone, and I have had to borrow my spare key from the neighbors at least 3 times this past year. I am not super paranoid but I don't think I would be capable of assuring my own security with these kind of systems, they would have to pretty much work without me having to know anything beyond basic rules about passwords or such. Do you think they will ever get to that level or will it always be the case that you would have to know a lot more than how to "program a VCR."?
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All highschool we had a smart phone. It has its ups and downs. Downs were parents knew everytime I was home when I shouldn’t be lol. Ups were being able to cronrol anything electric inside the house while not being home.
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Your garage can work with or without the voice setup. Several garage door operator companies make systems that connect to a server, off premise, that will do what you want to do. The one I have is Craftsman. Chamberlain makes several too. I might add that Chamberlain makes Craftsman.
If you have an existing connection to the internet then these setups are pretty straight forward for any novice. You install the garage door opener just as you normally would. You will have a small box that is a controller for the opener that connects to your router or hub on your home network. You then go online to the website specified for your door opener manufacturer and follow the step by step instructions. All that exist of is setting up a free account the entering information that is located on the bottom of the controller. After that you download the app for the controllerfrom playstore or applestore, depending on your phone type. Install it, open it and sign in using the user name and password you setup online.
After that you can use your phone to open, close... or when you leave and wonder... did I close that door... you can check it on your phone. With Craftsman it keeps a history so I can see when it opened and closed and how long it was in each state along with times it actuated. If a friend stops at your home to pick something up, you can open the garage. It is safe too. When you use your phone to close, the light blinks several times as a warning then it will actuate to close.
Mine is a 12 volt and has a battery backup in it. If power drops it can actuate 20 times with no external power.
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Here a smart way to save 1000s per year in heating or air conditioning. I watched this video awhile back, I'm thinking to sell and move on larger lot, install a geothermal set up like this. The ground temperature stays around 50-55 degrees year around bellow 8-10 ft, from ecuator to subarctic, works both ways for cooling or heating in hot or cold climate.
https://youtu.be/ZD_3_gsgsnk
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My neighbor has an in ground system he designed and installed some 20 years a go.
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Mics on the devices listen but do nothing till they hear the correct phrase. ---
Yes? What about the smart TV's sending every word to the Far-East manufacturer "to learn different dialects for better understanding voice commands"? Or Vizio, gathering data about your TV usage and selling it to advertisers?
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Yes? What about the smart TV's sending every word to the Far-East manufacturer "to learn different dialects for better understanding voice commands"? Or Vizio, gathering data about your TV usage and selling it to advertisers?
Most all TVs and other devices use third party speech recognition like google.
You turn that on or off when doing setup. If off it may have some troubles understanding you at times or not work at all. You also give up some options like your favorites. You can also turn off the ability for most TVs to track your shopping and browsing.
The only way to be absolutely safe with your TV is to disconnect it from the internet. This is also true for anything connected to the internet.... including your computer.
Then you need to put in a supply of food, water, and etc. Board up the doors and windows and wait. :bolt:
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Generally the toaster manufacturer does nothing. They either connect to your network or through to a larger network. My a/c connects through my network to it's own base. Access to it is secured by that company. I access it through my phone and can do anything you can do standing at the thermostat. Change temp, flip a/c to heat, turn fans on and off, set schedules, raise or lower humidity. My garage is the same way.
First of all, your phone is not secure. Ask BMW how well that worked out for them when they endorsed an app which allowed a phone to control their car and hackers stole hundreds of BMW's (46 in my neighborhood alone last year) by copying the cell signals and duplicating them to take control of the cars. It is not hard to do. It is a basic repeater.
Other applications used the serial number of the car as the security key and hackers just ran through them as they drove through neighborhoods watching for cars to light up. Again, not hard to do.
Basically, anything going over the air is easy to hack.
Hackers are not looking for ways to hack those IoT devices to control them. They are looking at data collection from the hacked network. Once you get into a LAN, they are mostly easy to move around in and snoop on.
Oh, you never know what devices may or may not have microphones and cameras. Most new televisions do, for example.
Mics on the devices listen but do nothing till they hear the correct phrase. For google home it is "OK Google" or "Hey Google". Then it will take that phrase through its voice recognition, which is at google. This is the same for all voice recognition devices. Even voice remotes do this off premise.
By default it listens for command or question for a very short time then reacts. You can set it so it listens after reacting for a continued conversation... another question or command.
You can have them react to every voice in your family differently. When I talk to it, any list, timers, meetings, or calls are stored on my Note 8 phone. When my wife talks it stores her items on her phone.
At any time you can go online to your private settings on google and see anything you have conversed with google home. From there you can clear it all or keep it. The purpose of this is so you can see exactly what it picks up day to day.
They are always listening. They just do not react unless they hear key phrases. You cannot know what is being recorded, or what it not being recorded without analyzing the data leaving the device. Of course, if it is over a wireless connection, then anyone can record the raw data and use it to take control of the device. It does not matter if it is encrypted, or not when it comes to using the raw data. Wireless is not secure. Never has been, never will be.
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Most everything connects through wifi or hardwired if you decide to. The phone is not required for a smart home but uses apps to connect if you decide to use it. Apps are as secure as the developer/company makes them. We hear of bank systems being broken in to and other large monetary institutions, even games as they keep info with peoples card numbers. That happens as there are thieves about. Most folks around here have wireless garage doors. As time passes security increases. Garage wireless went digital then to rolling codes. Same with remotes on cars.
Just having access to my phone will get you my phone. You need my fingerprint to access most things on it unless you catch it awake in the few minutes after I touch it. Most you can do against criminals is lock your doors, make sure your belongings are secured, and keep your guns handy.
Houses not connected are broken in to also. It is just a matter of convenience and how far you wish to go making life more comfortable.
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You are missing the critical part. Anyone with a wireless repeater can copy anything leaving your phone wirelessly and echo it. There is no defense against it. There is nothing a developer can do to make that app more secure.
It is the nature of the wireless connection and there are more and more people taking advantage of it everyday.
Last year, I attended a demonstration of this. A man walked down a street and every garage door being controlled by a phone was opened by him. All the pocket device had to do was to trigger a security key change message which initiated with the phone and when the exchange was done, he had the security key he needed to apply to the data and open the door. It took only a few seconds. There is no defense against it.
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It is technology... it keeps on ebbing and growing.
The demonstration you witnessed, were the owners of thos garage doors standing right there? Were all the phones present?
I ask this as the garage door feature does not send a wireless signal out to your phone or even receive one. The phone communicate wirelessly with a site with an app. Then the info is transmitted through some wire and wireless to the network at the home. Then at the home the garage is triggered just like using a remote.
I ask this wondering if all those phones had to be right there. Did they have to be activated through the security of the device and transmitting for him to control the doors?
Interesting to know those requirements. I spent my young years manipulating computers and not cell phones.
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Skuzzy, what do you think about the idea that Mastercard has to allow refrigerators to order food, and for smart cars (no passenger space) to make the food run to Wal-Mart, or Fresh Market? Is there any way this won't end up as a nightmare?
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Skuzzy, what do you think about the idea that Mastercard has to allow refrigerators to order food, and for smart cars (no passenger space) to make the food run to Wal-Mart, or Fresh Market? Is there any way this won't end up as a nightmare?
Samsung has a fridge with a screen. My nephew bought one and had it almost 2 months. The fridge was always breaking down. He returned it. The repair tech used it more than he did.
I stay away from samsung from experience. The only device I have.of theirs is my phone.
Any self driving vehicle that is not on a track will be dangerous.
My opinion of course.
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I am not tech adverse by any means. I've been dealing with electronics and computers since Fortran and Cobol were main use languages (think back to before the early Apple personal "computers") I was one of the first folks to go out and buy an Apple II once they hit the market. I refuse to have "smart" tech installed in my home. I dealt with enough thieves in my working days to not open that door for them. They will have to get into my house old school. I also secure items in my house and yes I know the vulnerabilities of home safes etc. but they are better than under the bed or in the closet. I don't even have a touch pad combo, dial is just fine thank you very much. I watch the alexa commercials on TV all the time but won't have one. I prefer to interface with amazon through my PC and or tablet / phone.
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I di some investigating online. I see where BMW and several other makers cars are being stolen using a repeater. This has been going on for awhile. That is the RF keyfob that only has to be present to open and start the vehicle.
The garage doors operate by RF also.
In the case of the keyfob, they have to be fairly close by. Thieves usually stand outside of a bedroom with a repeater while another checks the car.
I do not see anything about phones being involved with the bmw issue.
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Smart home = someone else owning your bank accounts and everything else. Never gonna happen in my home.
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Smart home = someone else owning your bank accounts and everything else. Never gonna happen in my home.
Well my home is going the smart route. I hope to be back in it soon. Living in the RV in the driveway going on a year. Dang hurricane Harvey.
I'll post experiences and maybe some pics as I go along. Folks can see what happens or don't happen.
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It is technology... it keeps on ebbing and growing.
The demonstration you witnessed, were the owners of thos garage doors standing right there? Were all the phones present?
I ask this as the garage door feature does not send a wireless signal out to your phone or even receive one. The phone communicate wirelessly with a site with an app. Then the info is transmitted through some wire and wireless to the network at the home. Then at the home the garage is triggered just like using a remote.
I ask this wondering if all those phones had to be right there. Did they have to be activated through the security of the device and transmitting for him to control the doors?
Interesting to know those requirements. I spent my young years manipulating computers and not cell phones.
I could not tell you if the phones were preset or not. He used a repeater which had recorded the signal as it opened the doors from before. He did demonstrate that one time and then went through the exercise of opening the remaining doors.
I know that the cars that were stolen from our neighborhood last year simply picked up the cell transmissions when people were in the house and they were opening the windows, or unlocking it, or starting the engine using the cell phone wifi signal. Wifi does not have the range the cell signal does, but it goes far enough to cover a few houses.
The technology available to criminals is getting pretty impressive and the prices for it are coming down.
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I could not tell you if the phones were preset or not. He used a repeater which had recorded the signal as it opened the doors from before. He did demonstrate that one time and then went through the exercise of opening the remaining doors.
I know that the cars that were stolen from our neighborhood last year simply picked up the cell transmissions when people were in the house and they were opening the windows, or unlocking it, or starting the engine using the cell phone wifi signal. Wifi does not have the range the cell signal does, but it goes far enough to cover a few houses.
The technology available to criminals is getting pretty impressive and the prices for it are coming down.
Ahhh he was intercepting the RF from the openers then. Same as sitting outside home and when folks hit their garage door button, the turd grabs the code. They have been doing that almost as long as we have been pushing a button to open our garage.
The second item dealing with cars is actually RF related too. The keyless FOB is in the home somewhere. The turd only has to walk around outside till he picks up the signal on his repeater and then a second turd opens the door and starts the car. That is the keyless FOB. BMW says it is not their fault if criminals want to go that far. Actually there are a bunch of other vehicles with the same issue. Most any with a keyless FOB.
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The wifi vulnerability is due in part to improper configuration both logically and physically.
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I have a phonograph that doubles as a Bluetooth player.
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The wifi vulnerability is due in part to improper configuration both logically and physically.
I think that applies to a lot of things in this world.
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Ahhh he was intercepting the RF from the openers then. Same as sitting outside home and when folks hit their garage door button, the turd grabs the code. They have been doing that almost as long as we have been pushing a button to open our garage.
The second item dealing with cars is actually RF related too. The keyless FOB is in the home somewhere. The turd only has to walk around outside till he picks up the signal on his repeater and then a second turd opens the door and starts the car. That is the keyless FOB. BMW says it is not their fault if criminals want to go that far. Actually there are a bunch of other vehicles with the same issue. Most any with a keyless FOB.
Actually it was BMW's fault, to a degree. They used the vehicle ID number for the key. All these particular set of thieves had to do was use a laptop broadcasting every vehicle ID until a car's lights flashed. It was easy. An phone app revealed the flaw.
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Actually it was BMW's fault, to a degree. They used the vehicle ID number for the key. All these particular set of thieves had to do was use a laptop broadcasting every vehicle ID until a car's lights flashed. It was easy. An phone app revealed the flaw.
I agree that it is BMWs fault. BMW had just said it was not their fault. Test should have easily shown that using a repeater standing outside an owners home could boost the FOB to where the car thought it was much closer.
Anyone that has the keyless FOB is at risk to this kind of thief.
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Update 1
We are still in out RV. Not moved into the house yet.
Smart items installed and connected ...
Master bed tempur pedic ergo controls
LG Instaview fridge
Daikin a/c heat with Honeywell thermostat
Craftsman garage door
All working as advertised so far.
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Shuff, if you like it keep it! I've had a smart home for years,I'm always yelling at it to get off the phone I'm on the internet!!! :devil
All jokes aside I;m trying to convince my Mother to go this route,she has a sister who has installed a google home system and like you said she can control everything by voice or with the phone. Personally I'd keep it out of the bedroom but the convenience of being able to control heat\cooling and lights when you have mobility problems can be a life saver! Not to mention all the other features.
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Shuff, if you like it keep it! I've had a smart home for years,I'm always yelling at it to get off the phone I'm on the internet!!! :devil
All jokes aside I;m trying to convince my Mother to go this route,she has a sister who has installed a google home system and like you said she can control everything by voice or with the phone. Personally I'd keep it out of the bedroom but the convenience of being able to control heat\cooling and lights when you have mobility problems can be a life saver! Not to mention all the other features.
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You can turn any of them off with a touch on the top. They are then off and will not wait for catch phrases or respond.
A suggestion for anyone who might go this route. To try it out you can by the small google home for about $35 on sale. It can do anything the others can do but it's speaker is just good for speech and not music. All of them will connect to bluetooth speakers if you wish. Then when you play music it will be.on the speakers and not the google home.
The regular google home has excellent sound. The large one has absolutely amazing sound.
The regular google home is normally $129 but goes on sale for $99 pretty often. The other day they were $75 each while amazon was having its sale.
The big google home is $399 and does not go on sale much as it is very new.
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I am worried that the tech is not fully mature:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz3EXDcw5q0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz3EXDcw5q0)
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I am worried that the tech is not fully mature:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz3EXDcw5q0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz3EXDcw5q0)
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I used to make "Intelligent Buildings" for Johnson Controls, and Siemens before that.
If you want to make your own home more smarterer, I'd go with Arduino. You can't beat the price and your options are essentially limitless. I'm putting HID prox card entry on my garage and I've purchased everything but the door sensor. So far my actual cost is around $25 total. I'm having trouble finding the Door sensor I want because I'm holding out for a salvaged HID MaxiProx (parking lot model) and they seem to be in demand these days.
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With Arduino you're looking at spending about $5 per controller for a UNO model (14 inputs/outputs)
They offer other models with more and less horsepower. Shields can be purchased for added functionality and snap directly onto the control boards so no wiring is necessary.
For autonomous robotics they offer a controller called PixHawk that runs Ardupilot. Here's a canadian farmer using one that he set up to drive his John Deere row crop tractor to and from his Combine & Semi Truck to load and unload grain during harvest time. PixHawk comes with a fully redundant suite of sensors for GPS location, Inertial navigation etc.... It can drive/fly anything from a tilt rotor aircraft to a submarine to heavy equipment.
https://youtu.be/C69E9rm8x8M?t=2m29s
This arduino ENthusiast / machinist has seen the movie Aliens too many times if you ask me. I mean, who in their right mind really needs a Autonomous AR-15 sentry gun?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mlG7rN-inI
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Arduino is a lot of fun actually. With all the stuff I have going on I did not have time to be putting things together. You can do a lot with their tiny Uno boards. I do like the almost limitless options you have going that way. Your imagination is all that holds you back.
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:rofl More "smarterer" :D I know...ya did it on porpoise :devil And you made intelligent buildings... :neener:
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In the 1990s I was setting up "smarthomes" and eventually ended up at "AVSinc" wiring "conference rooms" and "operations centers" at the pentagon and military bases.
Back then, it was harder to set up but also impossible to "hack".
I agree that people using default settings are leaving the doors open.
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:rofl More "smarterer" :D I know...ya did it on porpoise :devil And you made intelligent buildings... :neener:
My 2nd grade teacher would say "you owe Robert 2 put ups"
How smart do you feel now Eisenstein? :neener:
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We received the LG smart dishwasher. Stovetop, over the cooktop microwave, and double wall oven. Will not be installed until cabinet doors come in and all wood is stained and sealed.
First smart lights from Lifx arrived. Installed 2 for test. Pretty impressive.
I will be building my own suspended speakers for a bluetooth system using exciters. This system will be connected to google home via bluetooth and consist of exciters in every room controlled by the GH in that room. The google home system is also groupable so the same music can be played in any selection of rooms or different music in each room.
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I've got everything hardwired to minimize stray radiation of any wavelength where I live.
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I've got everything hardwired to minimize stray radiation of any wavelength where I live.
EM Noise issues?
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No. I don't want microwaves spewing about my house.
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No. I don't want microwaves spewing about my house.
Cover everything you put in the MICROWAVE, DUH. Keeps the splattering and spewing from making a mess :aok :rofl Sorry,could help myself...back to normal programming :neener:
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No. I don't want microwaves spewing about my house.
The likelihood of someone trying to see inside your home using your wifi bouncing around is close to nil. The technology to do that is still in it's infancy and does not give very good results. It is still something to keep an eye on though.
I am learning a few nuances to the voice commands. While you have some leeway on how you make commands it is in one's favor to be more diligent in your specifications. Case in point.... I intended to command "Master Bedroom Lights" to warm white. I left out the "lights". Command confirmation was "setting temperature to warm". I walked down the hall and the thermostat was set on 80°. I then said "set thermostat to 74°, confirmation was, "temperature set to 74°". The I made the correct command, "set Master Bedroom lights to warm white".
It just takes a little getting used to. As the house is finished up I will have the other items connected and active. Then we will see if I still have a full head of hair in a month or two. :aok
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Not going to happen in my home. Too many security holes in all those IoT devices.
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You do realize that we do not have any self driving cars yet.... don't you? Many people think we do. They are wrong.
As for locking your home with electronic locks, they are pretty secure. Not those of old. Check out Schlage offerings.
The self driving cars WILL be forced on us :noid
As far as locks accessible from a smart phone and therefore the net.... the in itself
lends them vulnerability.... again :noid
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The self driving cars WILL be forced on us :noid
As far as locks accessible from a smart phone and therefore the net.... the in itself
lends them vulnerability.... again :noid
I can bump most locks. That makes them more vulnerable than electronic. If you have a digital safe, most of them can be opened with a strong magnet in seconds. Nothing is totally secure. We only slow the turds to make them decide to find a softer target.
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This happens when you leave the default user and password on some routers... admin, password. :neener:
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The likelihood of someone trying to see inside your home using your wifi bouncing around is close to nil. The technology to do that is still in it's infancy and does not give very good results. It is still something to keep an eye on though.
I am learning a few nuances to the voice commands. While you have some leeway on how you make commands it is in one's favor to be more diligent in your specifications. Case in point.... I intended to command "Master Bedroom Lights" to warm white. I left out the "lights". Command confirmation was "setting temperature to warm". I walked down the hall and the thermostat was set on 80°. I then said "set thermostat to 74°, confirmation was, "temperature set to 74°". The I made the correct command, "set Master Bedroom lights to warm white".
It just takes a little getting used to. As the house is finished up I will have the other items connected and active. Then we will see if I still have a full head of hair in a month or two. :aok
It's about health. As a MCSE since 1998 and having hooked up networks since 1984, I've got the security end well worked out.
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It's about health. As a MCSE since 1998 and having hooked up networks since 1984, I've got the security end well worked out.
Yes well we can't do much about all the stuff in our air.... participate or electronic. Whole towns and cities are wifi now here in Texas.
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Local business WiFi have been found to be a blessing and a curse. Many local businesses are dropping it, in my area, as it seems people check in, but then never leave reducing the ability to make sales.
Our area is saturated with millennials and college people. I differentiate simply due to the fact there really are some college kids who have a good head on their shoulders and are not looking for everything to be given to them.
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It's about health. As a MCSE since 1998 and having hooked up networks since 1984, I've got the security end well worked out.
I don't understand the health angle. Radiation is a very broad term and encompasses many different types of energy. Some of which we actually need just to stay alive.
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Microwave radiation.
2.4 and 5 Ghz.
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MRI operates on freqs from approx. 42 MHz to 64 mhz... at least they did when
I was a field engineer for MRI 10 yrs ago
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Microwave radiation.
2.4 and 5 Ghz.
No cordless phones then either.
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Better stay out of retail stores, restaurants, hospitals, also. All have stuffs in the 2.4 ghz range
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Added in Bond. I have 56" ceiling fans installed in all three bedrooms. I have not installed the two 60" fans in the vaulted living room yet as the beams need to be stained first. Bond allows me to control all aspects of my fans by voice. I can control speed and lighting.
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Anyone have their home setup as smart home? My home is getting close to the finish from its complete makeover after hurricane Harvey last year. I have been purchasing smart home gear left and right.
My base for voice command and control is google home. All the kitchen appliances are smart devices. Over cooktop microwave, cooktop, double wall oven, dishwasher, and fridge. All are LG and connect to my smart system with voice control. Fridge has the instaview window. All black stainless.
Master bedroom features tempur-pedic split king with full controls that connect to my smart system.
Lights in all rooms will be voice controlled and most will be 16 mil colors and dimmable. The all white lights will have kelvin/temperature control.
The a/c , heat, and garage have been networked for some time already. I even control my router by voice commanx.
Security system I will not go much in to but it is accessible from anywhere I happen to be. Along with a smart video doorbell.
What do yall have setup?
When your house decides to kill you can I have your car?
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First of all, your phone is not secure. Ask BMW how well that worked out for them when they endorsed an app which allowed a phone to control their car and hackers stole hundreds of BMW's (46 in my neighborhood alone last year) by copying the cell signals and duplicating them to take control of the cars. It is not hard to do. It is a basic repeater.
Other applications used the serial number of the car as the security key and hackers just ran through them as they drove through neighborhoods watching for cars to light up. Again, not hard to do.
Basically, anything going over the air is easy to hack.
Hackers are not looking for ways to hack those IoT devices to control them. They are looking at data collection from the hacked network. Once you get into a LAN, they are mostly easy to move around in and snoop on.
Oh, you never know what devices may or may not have microphones and cameras. Most new televisions do, for example.
They are always listening. They just do not react unless they hear key phrases. You cannot know what is being recorded, or what it not being recorded without analyzing the data leaving the device. Of course, if it is over a wireless connection, then anyone can record the raw data and use it to take control of the device. It does not matter if it is encrypted, or not when it comes to using the raw data. Wireless is not secure. Never has been, never will be.
Thus the reason my Alexa does not reside in my bedroom :D
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When your house decides to kill you can I have your car?
ROTFLMAO we only have trucks. No cars in my driveway unless we have visitors. Most of my friends have trucks.
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Thus the reason my Alexa does not reside in my bedroom :D
You know you can turn Alexa off with a touch. Same with Google.
If you turn Google off in the bedroom you can still use it's routines. It will wake you with music, albeit from another room, turn on the coffee pot, turn on a dim light where you are and turn on the bathroom light. While in the bathroom it will turn on the closet lights so you can dress, it will also tell you the weather for the day. The hall lights will come on as well as kitchen. If you use a toaster it can be prewarmed. While eating breakfast it will read off the news of the day covering only your interest from your chosen sites/channels. Before you leave it will tell you the traffic and drive time to work.
As you leave everything will turn off.
I might add that if you think music or another type of alarm from another room might not wake you, it can also flash your lights. It can even play the alarm to any bluetooth speaker which can be in the bedroom.
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When your house decides to kill you can I have your car?
the car will kill you
semp
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Added iGrill 3 to Weber gas grill.
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Added iGrill 3 to Weber gas grill.
The Tappecue
https://www.tappecue.com
is the most awesome BBQ thermometer ever. Had mine about a year. I have a box full of wireless ones and while they all work I was always disappointed with the range. Most would hardly reach thru the walls into the house. This kinda defeats the purpose on a crazy ridiculous hot or cold day! I have my limits! Not a problem with this guy! It connects to my wifi and can be monitored anywhere there's internet. Can even be monitored by others via the app, say everyone on a BBQ team. That way everyone can watch the fire and food temps in real time. Way cool gizmo.
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The Tappecue
https://www.tappecue.com
is the most awesome BBQ thermometer ever. Had mine about a year. I have a box full of wireless ones and while they all work I was always disappointed with the range. Most would hardly reach thru the walls into the house. This kinda defeats the purpose on a crazy ridiculous hot or cold day! I have my limits! Not a problem with this guy! It connects to my wifi and can be monitored anywhere there's internet. Can even be monitored by others via the app, say everyone on a BBQ team. That way everyone can watch the fire and food temps in real time. Way cool gizmo.
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That looks pretty cool too. Just adds wifi and is 2 1/2 times more. Would be worth it if wifi is needed.
Edit........
I might return this igrill 3 and opt for one of the wifi setups myself. Bluetooth is a little limiting.
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ROTFLMAO we only have trucks. No cars in my driveway unless we have visitors. Most of my friends have trucks.
LOL.. fine.. When your house kills you can I have your truck? :D
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You know you can turn Alexa off with a touch. Same with Google.
If you turn Google off in the bedroom you can still use it's routines. It will wake you with music, albeit from another room, turn on the coffee pot, turn on a dim light where you are and turn on the bathroom light. While in the bathroom it will turn on the closet lights so you can dress, it will also tell you the weather for the day. The hall lights will come on as well as kitchen. If you use a toaster it can be prewarmed. While eating breakfast it will read off the news of the day covering only your interest from your chosen sites/channels. Before you leave it will tell you the traffic and drive time to work.
As you leave everything will turn off.
I might add that if you think music or another type of alarm from another room might not wake you, it can also flash your lights. It can even play the alarm to any bluetooth speaker which can be in the bedroom.
Oh ya. I just haven't bothered to set that up. My dot sits on my desk in my office and I use it for minor league bs. Maybe when we move back to TX I'll set that stuff up there but PA has become a temporary stop for me and not worth the hassle.