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Title: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Larry on July 29, 2018, 08:57:38 PM

For the upcoming Battle for Pantelleria scenario.


Bf109G-6 "White 3" of 7./JG53 flown by Ofw. Günter Seger, Comiso, Italy summer 1943.



(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/7jg532_zpssabs5m0i.png)
(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/7jg531_zpshetcwooo.png)
(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/7jg533_zpstwfklf3m.png)

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Vraciu on July 29, 2018, 09:04:22 PM

Very nice. 

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Devil 505 on July 29, 2018, 09:24:23 PM

Overall it's very good.

I do have a couple of issues.

1. The whites of the tail band and "3" do not match the other white areas.
2. The mottleing pattern on the fuselage is incorrect. This aircraft had it's mottling in bands. See the image bellow:
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/00/d6/c9/00d6c9eb7f34fe3f53a22b37238b19d8--sicily-pilots.jpg)

This plane was a Regensburg built 109, and the other aspects of the pattern you represented very well.

Check out the following link for the basic 109G patterns based on the build factory:
http://theprofilepaintshop.blogspot.com/2013/10/chosing-correct-wingpattern-for-bf109g-6.html

I'll try to gig up some good photos of real 109G-6s from the Regensburg plant.



Not related to your work, but I already have a skin on the G-6 from 7./Jg 53. Mine is White 9 "Seenann"
With only 5 available open slots for the G-6, I do not think it is wise to have redundant coverage of squadrons. Maybe a plane from a different squadron in Jg 53 would be better?

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: lyric1 on July 29, 2018, 09:34:53 PM

 :aok

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Devil 505 on July 29, 2018, 09:49:30 PM

Regensburg G-6's

(https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109G/JG77/images/Messerschmitt-Bf-109G6-7.JG77-Sktz-GP+IZ-Gunther-Hannak-WNr-18046-engine-failure-landed-Malta-1943-01.jpg)

(https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109G/JG77/images/Messerschmitt-Bf-109G6-9.JG77-Chilivani-Sardinia-1943-01.jpg)

(https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109G/JG77/images/Messerschmitt-Bf-109G6R6-JG77-Sktz-TL+DF-WNr-18366-Sicily-1943-Avions-90-P24.jpg)

(https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109G/JG77/images/Messerschmitt-Bf-109G6Trop-7.JG77-White-12-Chilivani-Sardinia-July-1943-01.jpg)

(https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109G/JG53/images/Messerschmitt-Bf-109G6-8.JG53-(B16+I)-Italy-Feb-1943-01.jpg)

(https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109G/JG53/images/Messerschmitt-Bf-109G6-JG53-Yellow-13-unknown-unit-and-pilot-1944-01.jpg)

(https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109G/JG53/images/Messerschmitt-Bf-109G6R3-7.JG53-(W9+I)-Georg-Amon-WNr-18107-Sicily-1943-04.jpg)

(https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109G/JG53/images/Messerschmitt-Bf-109G6R3R6Trop-6.JG53-(Y7+-)-WNr-18068-Sicily-1943-01.jpg)

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Guppy35 on July 29, 2018, 10:21:55 PM

Funny how that works :)

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Devil 505 on July 29, 2018, 10:47:07 PM

Quote from: Guppy35 on July 29, 2018, 10:21:55 PM

Funny how that works :)

 :rofl

Yeah, I was like "I just had this conversation with Guppy last week. Wish I saved copies of those PM's."  :devil

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Larry on July 30, 2018, 05:59:49 AM

You're right.  I didn't realize there were only five slots open. I'll scrap this one and see if there are any up for adoption.

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Greebo on July 30, 2018, 09:01:11 AM

Mottling issues aside its a great looking skin Larry.

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Bruv119 on July 30, 2018, 05:11:05 PM

looks pretty sweet to me, 

will enjoy shooting it down.     :aok

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Larry on July 30, 2018, 06:29:25 PM

I have scraped White 3 and instead have adopted "Yellow 1" of 6./JG53 flown by Alfred Hammer originally skinned by fencer. I only have two pictures of it but Im looking for opinions about the molting, the area around the 1, and the nose. Because I can see it has sawtooth on the wings I based it off of an Erla scheme, but it seems to have a either paint on the side of the nose or its just the quality of the photos. (Note: this is still a work in progress so I havent weathered any of the markings yet.)


(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/Erla_600_zpsbdnzxbsn.jpg)

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/Messerschmitt-Bf-109G6R3R6Trop-6_JG53-Y1--Alfred-Hammer-Cancello-Aug-1943-02_zpsmldlihqz.jpg)

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/Messerschmitt-Bf-109G6R3R6Trop-6_JG53-Y1--Alfred-Hammer-Cancello-Aug-1943-01_zpsyv0tx7gm.jpg)

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/yellow%201_zpsvzflfzsa.png)

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Devil 505 on July 30, 2018, 09:02:58 PM

Good choice.

The cowling looks to me to have denser than usual mottling, making the whole thing look dark.

Also,the paint under the "1" looks to be RLM 75. Note how it matches the color above the cross. It also should be wider.

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: lyric1 on July 30, 2018, 11:48:03 PM

Nice.  :aok
Only thing I see is a little off is the horizontal yellow line at the rear of the fuselage seems to be protruding a little to much into the white band compared to the photo.

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Vraciu on July 30, 2018, 11:53:15 PM

I'm no 109 experten but that's really nice work, Larry.

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Larry on July 31, 2018, 04:57:29 PM

Changed the molting under the 1 to 75, added some additional molting to the nose, and shortened the horizontal bar. How do you all think it looks now.



(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/y1-01_zpsyqea9v64.png)

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Vraciu on July 31, 2018, 04:59:31 PM

Really sharp, Larry.

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Devil 505 on July 31, 2018, 05:32:52 PM

Looking  really good now.

Only adjustment I'd make is to extend the RLM74 on the nose more forward so that it is above the Ace emblem.

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Larry on July 31, 2018, 08:37:39 PM

Unless you guys see something off I think its ready.


(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/yellow103_zpsy3lxdumd.png)

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/yellow101_zpsakn6brrx.png)

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/yellow102_zpsn5pygzuo.png)

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Devil 505 on July 31, 2018, 09:04:25 PM

Great job.

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Larry on July 31, 2018, 09:33:19 PM

Thank you sir.  :salute

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: lyric1 on August 01, 2018, 12:51:13 AM

The little triangle is not above the Number 1 like in the photo its off to the right on the profile.

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Devil 505 on August 01, 2018, 12:56:32 AM

Quote from: lyric1 on August 01, 2018, 12:51:13 AM

The little triangle is not above the Number 1 like in the photo its off to the right on the profile.

Good catch. The number 1 is too tall, I think that is why he moved it to the side.

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Larry on August 01, 2018, 08:11:39 AM

Good catch guys I didn't even notice that.

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Greebo on August 01, 2018, 09:56:29 AM

Great looking skin Larry, nicely set up screen shots too.

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Nefarious on August 01, 2018, 04:09:33 PM

Looking great!  :aok

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: Vraciu on August 01, 2018, 04:36:57 PM

Quote from: Nefarious on August 01, 2018, 04:09:33 PM

Looking great!  :aok

Indeed!  :aok

Title: Re: 7./JG53 109G-6 White 3
Post by: JOACH1M on August 01, 2018, 11:58:30 PM

Quote from: Larry on July 31, 2018, 08:37:39 PM

Unless you guys see something off I think its ready.


(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/yellow103_zpsy3lxdumd.png)

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/yellow101_zpsakn6brrx.png)

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz243/lbozeman1986/yellow102_zpsn5pygzuo.png)

Very nice