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Title: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on October 18, 2018, 12:08:43 PM
Lots of thanks to Guppy35 and Lyric1 for digging up the goods on this one.  It's legit.  We have movie footage to show it.   :banana:

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675034696_P-51-aircraft_insignia-on-jacket_officer-dividing-money_pilot-in-cockpit-of-plane

P-51B-15-NA, s/n 43-24762
Unnamed - QP*K
Lt. Timothy J. Cronin
4th Fighter Group, 334th Fighter Squadron
England, 1945


This was the last P-51B flown by the 4th Fighter Group.  One of the final 150 of nearly 2000 B models built, it is a rarity among its type having the large red "swoop" paint on the nose.

On Christmas Day 1944 while flying his P-51D "Sprutz" Lieutenant Cronin dove to the rescue of 335th FS CO and ace Pierce McKennon, shooting down a Focke-Wulf 190D (he gave McKennon half credit in the spirit of the season).   He ended the war with 1.5 victories and went on to serve in Korea (F-94s) and Vietnam (C-130s) retiring as a Lieutenant Colonel.  His decorations include the Distinguished Flying Cross.  He passed away in 2015.

MachNix skinned it originally as QP*L.    http://www.wildandfreed.com/ah/v204/qp_1.jpg  Our excellent sleuths found it should be QP*K.  I've completely redone it though I tried to keep with the spirit of the original.  It is compatible with ENABLED REFLECTIONS which forces some minor tradeoffs for those of us who prefer them disabled.   



(https://i.postimg.cc/bGqQM1MV/fullsizeimg.png) (https://postimg.cc/bGqQM1MV)

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394956.0;attach=30936)

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Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Devil 505 on October 18, 2018, 05:13:57 PM
Great improvement.
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on October 18, 2018, 08:45:53 PM
Thank you, sir. 
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: lyric1 on October 18, 2018, 11:42:18 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Greebo on October 19, 2018, 01:44:30 AM
Excellent skin Vraciu.
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: FTJR on October 19, 2018, 05:28:55 AM
Nice one V   :aok
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on October 19, 2018, 01:12:02 PM
Thanks, all. 
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: GhostCDB on October 23, 2018, 02:20:38 PM
Great work
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on October 23, 2018, 09:40:14 PM
Great work

Thank you, sir.  Much appreciated.   I'm learning as I go.   <S>
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on July 02, 2020, 09:23:14 PM
This is a quick and dirty update to this skin.  I'll eventually redo it completely to be more like my latest B.   

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,400552.msg5308873.html#msg5308873

If the red needs to be further desaturated I'll do it on the NEXT update if you don't catch me on it before I submit it.  As usual, it looks a lot lighter in the game than it does here...   

EDIT IN: I was working on the desaturation and one of the nose panels started pixelating which caused it to not match the others.   I'll have to experiement with it further to figure out why that's happening.   This is as far as I could take it for the moment.   While I admit it probably needs some more work on the red paint, it's a lot better than my original attempt which was a bit garish.    :bolt:

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394956.0;attach=32734)

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Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: lyric1 on July 02, 2020, 09:28:54 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on January 22, 2024, 12:37:54 AM
Another fast update to this skin as there are some scenarios coming up.   I need to do a full redraw but this will do for now.

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394956.0;attach=37128)

Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: lyric1 on January 22, 2024, 01:27:56 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on January 22, 2024, 01:38:42 AM
Watching the film link above in beginning to wonder if the wrong steps are actually red instead of black.....   :headscratch:
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Devil 505 on January 22, 2024, 09:01:30 AM
Nice improvement.

Watching the film link above in beginning to wonder if the wrong steps are actually red instead of black.....   :headscratch:

I assume you mean "Wing Stripes" and you might be on to something there. The stripes on the tail look lighter than the Insignia Blue. The stripes on the main wings are more debatable, as they could be black and worn/faded from being stepped on - just look at all the other grime on the wings.
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Greebo on January 22, 2024, 11:07:14 AM
Nice update Vraciu.
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on January 22, 2024, 12:55:34 PM
Thank you, guys. 

Yes, l meant stripes.   Darned phone.

The letters and prop are much much darker than the wing bands.   I wonder if that is how they'd look being black.     The bands look more like the nose and rudder which are red.

Did anyone ever paint these bands red?  I recall a Kid Hofer profile with a red bsnd on the vertical tail.

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Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Devil 505 on January 22, 2024, 09:23:20 PM
Yeah, all the stripes look red.

I wonder if this was a squadron hack aircraft, given how non-regulation that striping was and that the aircraft was a Bravo in 1945.
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on January 22, 2024, 09:24:37 PM
Their hacks were a lot wilder.

And with DTs?

It looks combat to me.
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on January 22, 2024, 09:25:33 PM
(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/skins/stream.php?floc=1&sfile=reference2img.jpg&stype=1&pindex=p51b_13)
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on January 22, 2024, 09:27:46 PM
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,394659.msg5238420.html#msg5238420
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on January 25, 2024, 12:30:25 PM
Any re-attacks on this topic?   These screen grabs don't move the needle any?   Can those stripes be red?

I'm becoming more and more convinced that whatever they are, they aren't black.

Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on January 25, 2024, 02:42:49 PM
Kid Hofer's Mustang had a red stripe on the tail...

(https://obscureco.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/hofer_taxiing_5543.jpg)
Title: Re: Lt. Timothy J. Cronin - P-51B "43-24762" (QP*K) - 4th FG, 334th FS
Post by: Vraciu on January 25, 2024, 04:55:19 PM
Someone uploaded it to YouTube.   Much better overall.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fHRLR3nUtd8