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Title: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: TwinBoom on November 08, 2018, 04:32:08 PM
Patch totally killed my game and removed icon from start desktop

on xp

open folder hit aceshigh9 get not valid system32

Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Squire on November 08, 2018, 05:52:58 PM
I get the  same thing;
Quote
aceshigh9 get not valid system32
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Bruv119 on November 09, 2018, 01:12:36 AM
impressive your still using XP.    :aok
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: 1stpar3 on November 09, 2018, 01:41:06 AM
Mine went off without a hitch...well other than the CHOSEN GUN SIGHTS reverting back to default.  Dont sweat it! You can always install the game PRE test again! This what they are looking for..so thanks for posting!  :rock
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Shuffler on November 09, 2018, 05:37:58 AM
This should be in the existing thread.......
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: CptTrips on November 09, 2018, 09:31:08 AM
impressive your still using XP.    :aok

 :rofl  I can't believe you went there.
I resisted.  :cool:
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: SysError on November 09, 2018, 09:43:47 AM
impressive your still using XP.    :aok

i am impressed that he CAN still use XP.    :O

(or maybe this patch was it...)
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: JOACH1M on November 09, 2018, 10:15:41 AM
I thought I was holding on by a thread with Windows 7 pro  :bolt:
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: lunaticfringe on November 09, 2018, 10:22:50 AM
Aces High III Version 3.04 Patch 1 Release Notes 

Here are the release notes showing changes to this version of the game.

1. Switch to a new internal browser using Chromium Embedded Framework instead of awesomium.

2. Now using Vissual studio 2017 for compilations.

4. Fixed a bug with the object editor not importing DOF nodes correctly.

5. Fixed a CTD when trying to schedual a mission in custom arenas.

6. Fixed a CTD when trying to auto complete segments with out having created a flight.

7. Windows XP is no longer supported.<<-----this twinboom may be you're problem.

Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Volron on November 09, 2018, 11:28:38 AM
What's Windows XP?  :P
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Lusche on November 09, 2018, 11:35:14 AM
What's Windows XP?  :P

These days? A security risk.   :noid
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Volron on November 09, 2018, 11:48:19 AM
These days? A security risk.   :noid

 :rofl
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Shuffler on November 09, 2018, 06:05:09 PM
These days? A security risk.   :noid

Not really... simply press the power button for secure mode.
 :D
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Spikes on November 09, 2018, 10:01:21 PM
Patch totally killed my game and removed icon from start desktop

on xp

open folder hit aceshigh9 get not valid system32


I'd try running it in Win 98 compatibility mode.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: kilo2 on November 09, 2018, 10:01:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tajDxBaPBBM
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: pallero on November 10, 2018, 11:03:49 AM
Meetoo.
I can not even download the new patch.
First i get the message, that your version is out of date, and do you wish to download the update.
Then it starts to download, and it will never succeed.
So looks like weekend without AH.  :furious
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: icepac on November 10, 2018, 12:56:07 PM
And..........another 15% of the arena population vanishes in a single day with the biggest irony being that XP users now can't reach the "account management" dialog to cancel their now useless account.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Spikes on November 10, 2018, 02:15:10 PM
And..........another 15% of the arena population vanishes in a single day with the biggest irony being that XP users now can't reach the "account management" dialog to cancel their now useless account.
What?
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: guncrasher on November 10, 2018, 02:17:02 PM
you really think hitech would have gotten rid of 15% of the player base? 

think
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: The Fugitive on November 10, 2018, 02:29:59 PM
What?

With the issue many are having getting a complete download and install, 15% might be close. Not even mentioning those still running XP
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: icepac on November 10, 2018, 03:13:14 PM


Hitech didn't "get rid" of players since their accounts are still active.     

The just can't play or even run any part of Aceshigh9.exe.

This means they can't run the "account management" tab from the splash screen because it does not come up.

Instead, you get a "is not a valid win32 application".

Yes, they are still being billed until they figure out another way to cancel their subscription.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Spikes on November 10, 2018, 03:19:01 PM
With the issue many are having getting a complete download and install, 15% might be close. Not even mentioning those still running XP
If there are that many people running XP, it says a lot about the player base.

Hitech didn't "get rid" of players since their accounts are still active.     

The just can't play or even run any part of Aceshigh9.exe.

This means they can't run the "account management" tab from the splash screen because it does not come up.

Instead, you get a "is not a valid win32 application".

Yes, they are still being billed until they figure out another way to cancel their subscription.
They can call Carrie very easily. I highly doubt it was HTC's intention to strand those few people who are running XP, and not allow them to cancel their sub if they wanted to. I am sure a fix will be released in the coming days.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: hgtonyvi on November 10, 2018, 03:41:05 PM
Yea. Just call carrie and explain to her. She is very easy to get a long with.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Lusche on November 10, 2018, 03:57:58 PM
If there are that many people running XP, it says a lot about the player base.

That was exactly my thought.  :aok
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Devil 505 on November 10, 2018, 04:10:25 PM
And..........another 15% of the arena population vanishes in a single day with the biggest irony being that XP users now can't reach the "account management" dialog to cancel their now useless account.

There are at least 950 players who played this month, based on the ranks on the roster. I really doubt that 140+ of them suddenly could not play because the game wont run on XP any more. I really doubt if it were even 14 people.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: guncrasher on November 10, 2018, 04:38:48 PM
With the issue many are having getting a complete download and install, 15% might be close. Not even mentioning those still running XP

would like to know how you get your figures.  dude just yesterday you were asking about a pool about when ah would close their doors. you have been saying that for years and yet you still log in.  weird.

semp
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: 1stpar3 on November 11, 2018, 01:53:17 AM
And..........another 15% of the arena population vanishes in a single day with the biggest irony being that XP users now can't reach the "account management" dialog to cancel their now useless account.
Too my knowledge, you can still run the game using the PRE TEST version of DX11? That MAY BE all the same, meaning the drop of Win xp would be a mute issue
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Litjan on November 11, 2018, 02:08:53 AM
Write an email to Aces High support to cancel - if you can still run your email program on XP  :devil

Or better yet - take the cue to move into the next millenium and upgrade to a more current operating system.

I know that older people shy away from that...I tried to move my father (80 years) from Outlook Express to a current mail system - with the result that he isn´t writing emails anymore because he couldn´t deal with the change. I suspect a similiar issue here.

Well, technology moves along and you can only take compatibility with old tech so far without seriously cobbling progress. My grandmother (95) also doesn´t like cellphones and thinks they are the demise of civilization (and I am inclined to believe she is right in some regard  :D)

Litjan
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Skuzzy on November 11, 2018, 06:03:49 AM
If you need to cancel and cannot do it through the game, then you can call Carrie (817-431 - 8840) or email billing@hitechcreations.com or send a PM to me on the bulletin board.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Squire on November 12, 2018, 02:20:26 AM
Any word on XP being "reinstated"?
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Shuffler on November 12, 2018, 04:49:49 PM
Any word on XP being "reinstated"?

No chance that M$ or any secure firm will be running it again. :D
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: caldera on November 12, 2018, 07:06:09 PM
If there are that many people running XP, it says a lot about the player base.

My Windows '95 still runs the game fine.  I don't need that newfangled XP stuff the young folks use.   :old:
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: 100Coogn on November 12, 2018, 07:15:06 PM
My Windows '95 still runs the game fine.  I don't need that newfangled XP stuff the young folks use.   :old:

 :rofl

Coogan
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Spikes on November 12, 2018, 07:35:16 PM
My Windows '95 still runs the game fine.  I don't need that newfangled XP stuff the young folks use.   :old:
Perhaps ship a copy to Twinboom then...:)
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 12, 2018, 09:32:22 PM
WindowsXP has run its course / life cycle....

It was very gracious of HTC to keep on supporting it for as long as they have done.... Most would think that a game developer/ company dealing with online mmog business model would have dropped support for WindowsXP about the time Windows 8.0/8.1/8.1 Pro rolled out in my opinion....

As far as AH community members wanting to cancel their account because they are not able to use WindowsXP anymore to play AH3 but actually still want to fly AH3 if anyway possible... I would recommend trying to help those AH community members find the easiest way possible to help them upgrade their OS to at least Windows 7 Pro SP1 64bit OS (Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit OS is ok to, but I recommend Pro version minimum), and if possible the rest of us check our PC parts bin(s) to see if anyone of us are able to get them up to the minimum requirements needed to play AH3 as of the  current time


Just a suggestion/thought


Hope this helps.....

TC
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: lunaticfringe on November 13, 2018, 01:13:09 AM
Any word on XP being "reinstated"?
Windows doesn't even support XP any more--they need to upgrade Operating system from XP to vista or better yet windows 7
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Lusche on November 13, 2018, 01:26:11 AM
Windows doesn't even support XP any more--they need to upgrade Operating system from XP to vista or better yet windows 7

Microsoft ended support for Vista one and a half years ago.  :old:
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: TwinBoom on November 13, 2018, 04:37:32 AM
Thanks TC. 3 pages only one offering help. 
For the record I called release notes updated after I call.

But, all the poking fun rudness really "speaks volumes" about our community.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Ciaphas on November 13, 2018, 08:06:07 AM
Thanks TC. 3 pages only one offering help. 
For the record I called release notes updated after I call.

But, all the poking fun rudness really "speaks volumes" about our community.

TC hit it on the head, in about 2 years MS will stop support for Windows 7 and this cycle will start again. Tech is always evolving and advancing, we can either embrace the change or we can hope that developers will continue to support what ever OS we hold as the Holy Grail. Unfortunately, supporting an OS that is no longer supported by its developer can be a risky business, especially when security patches no longer flow from said developer. 

Nvidia has already dropped main support for their products on 32 bit operating systems and will discontinue critical security support for 32 bit systems January 2019 (we'll see if it happens).

Systems are fairly cheap to build these days, at least the ones needed to play this game. Of course, the more you require your machine to do the more expensive it gets. My main machine is set up for animation, rendering, 3D design, it was a bit pricey but well worth the money and it's 3 years old now and still runs like a raped ape. My music production machine on the other hand serves one purpose and that is to run Cubase 9.5 Pro linked to a Tascam US-1800 interface. That machine (not software) cost me about 250 bucks.

If you do nothing more than word processing, surfing the web and play AH3, building a machine specifically for AH3 isn't going to break the bank. Don't get caught up in the flashing lights of the  "newest" hardware.
 
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Skuzzy on November 13, 2018, 08:22:01 AM
Does not necessarily require a new machine.  You can still buy Windows 7 Pro 64 bit and it will run on any hardware Windows XP ran on.  Windows 10 may or may not work (most likely it may not work) on older hardware.

If it is an OEM computer (i.e. Dell, HP....), check with them to see if drivers are available for Windows 7 and your computer before buying Windows 7.

I am running AHIII on an old 2.4Ghz Core 2 box w/4GB of systems RAM, with Windows 7.  Runs fine as long as you keep it clean.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Ciaphas on November 13, 2018, 09:02:08 AM
Does not necessarily require a new machine.  You can still buy Windows 7 Pro 64 bit and it will run on any hardware Windows XP ran on.  Windows 10 may or may not work (most likely it may not work) on older hardware.

If it is an OEM computer (i.e. Dell, HP....), check with them to see if drivers are available for Windows 7 and your computer before buying Windows 7.

I am running AHIII on an old 2.4Ghz Core 2 box w/4GB of systems RAM, with Windows 7.  Runs fine as long as you keep it clean.


You're right, the point being made is that it doesn't cost two arms and a leg to either build a machine or upgrade your current machine for this game.

Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Lusche on November 13, 2018, 10:11:45 AM
If you happen to live in the EU could easily get a Windows 7 or 10 license for ~10€. I didn't pay much more than this for any license past win 98  :old:
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: TwinBoom on November 13, 2018, 11:01:39 AM
I'm on a old doll xps gen5 3.0 Pentium D
Only use it for Aces High.
I was averaging 75fps with things turned down

Wonder if 10 will work.

If not guess I'll find a good used machine.

Anyone got anything that will run medium settings at least they wanna sell?
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: SPKmes on November 13, 2018, 11:09:48 AM
Would a linux based os be any good?.....I know you would have to run wine...or what ever they use now...but could be a free option....

Skuzzy will be along shortly to slam this if it is not an option...
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: hitech on November 13, 2018, 11:17:14 AM
Any word on XP being "reinstated"?

I't was not a desire to drop XP, the issue was for html5 support I hand to change apis  to chrome embedded which won't run on XP and upgrade to VC2017. Youtube had dropped html4 support and hence all our training videos for new users were not playing in the game.

HiTech
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Shuffler on November 13, 2018, 11:59:09 AM
Thanks TC. 3 pages only one offering help. 
For the record I called release notes updated after I call.

But, all the poking fun rudness really "speaks volumes" about our community.

XP can be upgraded to 7 Pro. As long as you can locate drivers you should be ok. Since M$ does not support 7 Pro you may have to search for updates/SP packages to make it more secure.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: icepac on November 13, 2018, 03:18:32 PM
If you're going from XP to Win7, going to 64 bit is a no brainer so you at least have a chance of running the DX11 version........provided you have a gpu that is DX11.

It will "keep you in the game" longer than Win7 32 bit.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Squire on November 13, 2018, 03:36:07 PM
I meant XP being "reinstated" in AH3. I understand the reasoning its a very old OS for 2018.

...going to upgrade to Windows 10. I knew I needed to do an OS upgrade a few years ago...but I just couldn't quite get there.

Cya up there Twinboom.  :salute
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Skuzzy on November 13, 2018, 03:37:22 PM
Windows 10 does not support older hardware.  If your computer is more than 4 or 5 years old, best check to see if it is supported before getting Windows 10.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Squire on November 13, 2018, 03:45:32 PM
Going to chk that with the upgrade checker. Thx.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 13, 2018, 03:49:02 PM
Squire, not knowing what you have for a PC....... I would recommend win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit or win 8.1 Pro 64 bit

I would shy away from windows 10, unless you want to go through trial and error and headaches
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Skuzzy on November 13, 2018, 03:52:52 PM
Squire, not knowing what you have for a PC....... I would recommend win 7 Pro SP1 64 bit or win 8.1 Pro 64 bit

I would shy away from windows 10, unless you want to go through trial and error and headaches

I don't know TC.  The last update to Windows 10 did a good job of freeing up a lot of hard drive space.  Of course, it that by wiping out all your ZIP files.  The one before that could wipe out all your C:\user files.

Microsoft seems determined to free up disk space.  I am sure they will get it all worked out. :)
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Mano on November 13, 2018, 04:49:13 PM
Caldera, Win 95 really?   That is funny.

I just put Win 10 on an old laptop that is more than 10 years old. I put in a SSD and all it has
is 2 gigs of memory. It runs really fast. It has a pent dual core cpu and I did not install any motherboard drivers.

 :salute
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Spikes on November 14, 2018, 09:19:41 AM
Thanks TC. 3 pages only one offering help. 
For the record I called release notes updated after I call.

But, all the poking fun rudness really "speaks volumes" about our community.
Ok, if that is the case, what are the specs besides the Pentium D?

Some current gen stuff can be had for good prices:
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,395206.msg5243025.html#msg5243025

Even with this setup, some corners can be cut to drop the price by a couple hundred.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Bizman on November 14, 2018, 10:08:48 AM
If budget really is an issue, something like the "Dell Precision T1650 Xeon Quad Core E3-1240 V2 @ 3,4GHz 8GB 500GB DVD±RW" which a German used workstations vendor is selling for €235 incl. 20% VAT might solve most issues. Most likely those include either a sticker for Windows 7 or an electronic license for Windows 8, both of which can be used to install a free copy of Windows 10. For what I've experienced Intel based computers take W10 without issues, at least those with an i#-#### processor i.e. dating from 2010 and up. Used corporate workstations like that are being sold worldwide.

If the old XP rig has a PCI-e video card, that could easily be transferred over. If it still has an AGP card, there's plenty of cards both new and used that don't need extra power and will outperform any AGP card.

I'm not saying that the above would be ideal, but something like that would run AH without compatibility issues.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 16, 2018, 12:48:13 AM
If budget really is an issue, something like the "Dell Precision T1650 Xeon Quad Core E3-1240 V2 @ 3,4GHz 8GB 500GB DVD±RW" which a German used workstations vendor is selling for €235 incl. 20% VAT might solve most issues. Most likely those include either a sticker for Windows 7 or an electronic license for Windows 8, both of which can be used to install a free copy of Windows 10. For what I've experienced Intel based computers take W10 without issues, at least those with an i#-#### processor i.e. dating from 2010 and up. Used corporate workstations like that are being sold worldwide.

If the old XP rig has a PCI-e video card, that could easily be transferred over. If it still has an AGP card, there's plenty of cards both new and used that don't need extra power and will outperform any AGP card.

I'm not saying that the above would be ideal, but something like that would run AH without compatibility issues.

seeings how both of my Daughters and I write poetry and I myself compose music and create new riffs, etc... I've always had the tendency to "Over Build" my computers, especially since I also had to work with different versions of AutoCAD  (which any Intel system I know of, never out performed an AMD system, because of math calc rate)..... the company I worked for in the late 90's were pushing using 64 gb of Sys Mem back then using the PAE, etc..most here don'y even know what I am talking about....

If people would just go research, read the comprehensive studies of results, and learn how to tune,tweak and clean their dang PC's... then they would never have no problems, most likely...and if they did, they would be easily remedied...

I know Skuzzy is older than me, but we are getting to old to keep trying to teach the younger generations of how damn easy it is to keep a computer running way past it's hay day, etc...

This is not a beoch, this is a dang near 30 year playing fool trying to tell all of you how simple it is to keep the game going...

hope some might see the light

TC
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: Dundee on November 18, 2018, 01:12:45 AM
Windows 10 does not support older hardware.  If your computer is more than 4 or 5 years old, best check to see if it is supported before getting Windows 10.
When I switched to Win. 10 about half of my programs would not run in Win. full version of 10...Windows has a web page where you can search and see if a program you have will run in 10. If you upgraded  from 8 to 10 there is an option to run the program in 8 and not 10.... When I built this machine for this game I bought a new windows 10 and there was no option to run programs in 8 so I have to use those programs on the old machine I have... the price of progress I guess.
Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 18, 2018, 10:50:13 PM
I don't know TC.  The last update to Windows 10 did a good job of freeing up a lot of hard drive space.  Of course, it that by wiping out all your ZIP files.  The one before that could wipe out all your C:\user files.

Microsoft seems determined to free up disk space.  I am sure they will get it all worked out. :)

LOL Skuzzy... I read your reply as being sarcastically funny towards MS's Windows 10 updates

Is what I was referring to regarding trial and error and/or headaches, haha

When I decided to go with MS's LTSB version of  10, the way they explained/described it to the MS Insiders was that we would have full control over what we allowed to run or not, but that didn't last very long

After what I experienced my Windows 10 enterprise LTSB version by taking control of my Windows XP, Windows 7 ultimate and Windows 8.1 Pro OSes, having to spend 3+ months going through each OS just to be sure that all were back to how they were before the Windows 10 install....really pushed me over the edge about Window 10....

I built a switchbox with 4 toggle switches to engage/disengage certain partitioned hard drives that hold multi-boot OS setups and highly expensive software.... Music compositions, let alone family genealogy research and stuff

I could not afford to lose my stuff (software, etc) that I can't replace now that I'm disabled and on fixed income...

BTW, I mistyped earlier 64 GB system ram.... We were only up to 24 GBs.... But our computers and graphics cards we used with our AutoCAD, HVAC&R load calculating and designing and Thermodynamics software was so much more demanding than one's average home PC

TC

Title: Re: Patch totally killed my game
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 18, 2018, 11:07:51 PM
As far as the patch update and other people's killing / wrecking the game


I had to do 2 patches back to back from 3.04 to 3.04 patch 1 then to patch 3

From start to finish and logging in to the game took my system and isp connection less than 3 1/2 minutes

Guess I got lucky


TC