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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: SlipKnt on December 21, 2018, 04:03:04 PM
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Hey everyone!
With 2019 quickly approaching, I wanted to put up a simple rules reminder up for everyone. At your leisure, please go over everything and remember, we are here to have fun.
https://ahevents.net/index.php/fso-rules
Please treat each other with dignity and respect and have fun. Understand that personal attacks, whether verbal or text, can yet you muted, suspended, or banned from participation in FSO.
Also worth mentioning. Regarding squad min/max. Squads that go over their forecasted numbers will not be penalized in the near future. All we ask is that you do your best to forecast, but invite your MA friends to come along. Get them in uniform and show them this element to AH3. We as a FSO community, can build up our numbers together. If you go over your max allowed, it is no biggie. Help us grow. In fact, each month, try to bring another new player with you.
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Also worth mentioning. Regarding squad min/max. Squads that go over their forecasted numbers will not be penalized in the near future. All we ask is that you do your best to forecast, but invite your MA friends to come along. Get them in uniform and show them this element to AH3. We as a FSO community, can build up our numbers together. If you go over your max allowed, it is no biggie. Help us grow. In fact, each month, try to bring another new player with you.
Good point Slip. It is a difficult thing to achieve balance for FSO Admins. Because of the windows we are given, it is quite difficult to accurately estimate the attendance on a given Friday. Because of this it is imperative that CO's try as hard as they can to remain within the window and adjust each month if need be. Punishment should be out of the question, but every CO should consider the numbers each month when updating preferences.
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:aok....Thanks for posting... :salute
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Also just a quick note, shooting friendlies will damage them. That's why shoulder shooting and firing on enemies where there are friendlies very close to your line of fire is an extremely bad idea! :banana:
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Yea, its also a bad idea to fly underneath a friendly pilot while they are shooting and engaged, they will not see you until it is to late and friendly fire could occur. This could also cause a pilot who was on the receiving end of friendly fire to loose there head and start cursing someone out on open channel, showing no class what so ever.
Friendly fire sometimes happens, chalk it up as an accident, how it is handled in the heat of battle is a choice.
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interesting, typically your bullets go where your site is, and you can see what in front of you. I’ve neger seen bullets come out of my plane and go somewhere I wasn’t aimed. It seems FSO has begun to go down the same tubes the rest of the game has, oh well.
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Batz
Did you film this sortie also????? if you did post it here so people can see it and see what you saw? Friendly Fire happens all the time in FSO and we Shrug it off at times but in the heat of the battle things happen!!!! So if ya want to plead your side Post your film other then That Keep your Trap shut and Brush it off as friendly fire incident!
Call me whatever you want to but I been playing this game way longer then you have been and have also helped with the game probably more then you ever have to keep the community coming back for more.
Molsman/Crazyman
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No I unfortunately do not have the film mols. Yes, you’re right I have been here 9 years, which seems like forever but you still have seniority on me. My side of the case is pretty clear cut, I was going in to kill a hurricane I had fought down from altitude, and as I was going to line up my shot I was raked with gunfire from behind, causing me to break off and defend against morfied, not a red guy. So I very colorfully let him know on range, he apologized, and we continued to fight. I even gave him a check and helped clear him later on in the fight.
Seeing that grown men has let this progress to this level is simply disgusting. Apparently confrontation is scary for more than just millennials, and action can only be taken behind close doors with petty side jabs.
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Gents lets settle down a bit and move on ok? Until one of you has had his wing nearly shot off mid frame by a squaddies cat you have no room to complain.
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Until one of you has had his wing nearly shot off mid frame by a squaddies cat you have no room to complain.
I...I'm intrigued.
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I...I'm intrigued.
Oh you have not heard the story have you... Well, the Pigs were cruising at 20k in Spit 9's in an FSO last year. Peaceful as can be, not a cloud in the sky. 25 minutes into the frame and we are scanning for the Axis planes we know are out there. All of the sudden tracers start flying by my plane and I hear that sickening crunch that lets me know I am hit somewhere so I jink hard right, then left assuming a high plane has dropped on us. Somebody starts hollering "cease fire" "cease fire" "someone shot the lead, someone shot Waystin". I hear Razor say sheepishly "sorry, my cat jumped on the keyboard." Complete silence until someone says "he's a pretty good shot" then non-stop laughter! We have been trying without success to recruit the cat and have been rebuffed repeatedly. :D
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Oh you have not heard the story have you... Well, the Pigs were cruising at 20k in Spit 9's in an FSO last year. Peaceful as can be, not a cloud in the sky. 25 minutes into the frame and we are scanning for the Axis planes we know are out there. All of the sudden tracers start flying by my plane and I hear that sickening crunch that lets me know I am hit somewhere so I jink hard right, then left assuming a high plane has dropped on us. Somebody starts hollering "cease fire" "cease fire" "someone shot the lead, someone shot Waystin". I hear Razor say sheepishly "sorry, my cat jumped on the keyboard." Complete silence until someone says "he's a pretty good shot" then non-stop laughter! We have been trying without success to recruit the cat and have been rebuffed repeatedly. :D
I do remember this story from a few years ago it seems like. We have all had friendlies shoot at us in FSO. It happens and it is unfortunate. With the mechanics of ping and relative location in Aces High, we do not always see what the other guy sees. I have had a squaddie kill me from 600 out because he did not see me. This stuff happens.
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Had a wingman years ago who was unfamiliar with the amount of lead required for 109K4's 30mm clear the six of the Spitfire I was about to kill from 600 yards out. :lol
It happens.
Wiley.
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Think the point is, that if you have played FSO or scenerio's where the setting are "kill shooter off", accidents can happen and do. The point that batz is missing is his unacceptable behavior after the incident.
Now maybe there has been some private communication to where batz said, "yea, sorry about that, lost my head" of something to that effect, and if that is the case, then apologies.
But on this board, batz's tone is that he was justified for acting this way, i am one voice that takes exception to that.
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All laughing aside my intention was to defuse the tension that was the the result of an obvious miscommunication between two very determined and skilled pilots. See you fellas up there. :aok
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It's going to happen. Period.
I know I made the comment during last FSO:
"Well this is sure way to find friendly fire!" as 12 of us green guys are foaming at the mouth for a kill.
Just felt like Christmas to me, what with all the lights in the sky around my canopy! :salute
I'd be more upset with the squad-mate's cat "testing" guns on the runway at launch. :bhead
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I'd be more upset with the squad-mate's cat "testing" guns on the runway at launch. :bhead
I would have preferred the runway KB. I could have re-upped! this was after hostilites had started so fields were closed and my Spit was limed for the rest of the game. One cannon gone and chunks of the right wing gone! LOL All of this and we merged with 109's minutes later...
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This FSO I have had two people shooting over my shoulder who got an earful. First time it's ever happened in years... I put it down to new guys. I think the more experienced guys know you need to get close in early war rides, and the less patient ... well.
If you missed my post from frame 2, Dantoo's squadies got assists on him. I was on Dantoos 6 (he was a 109, I was a P-40). I got a call that 2 109s were going to clear the 109 I was on. I figured two things, we were mid frame so they were likely out of 20mm, and I was so close to this 109 they be hitting him if they shot at me. And I was correct.
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I have heard much worse things said on range than what I have said. Nonetheless, apparently I hurt some feelings, so I did indeed apologize well before this thread was created. However, if I am shot by a friendly again where they are obviously not in a position to be shooting, I’ll let them know.
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I have the film and was right there.
First, this is bad for the community that this has carried on so long when all it would have taken is an apology for cussing at someone in the heat of a battle. We all get an adrenaline dump in a dog fight. I have dropped an F bomb my self, just not calling other players names.
Second, it is true that there is friendly fire probably every week. The difference is how we handle it. I like story that Waystin told.
There is was too much over the shoulder firing going on, but we have all been around long enough to know that it goes on and should just break away and find the next red guy. I do that all the time.
So I am NOT going to post the vulgarities laced video
I do not want these screen shots to add to the fire. I want them to stop it so we all can see what Morf saw.
It is true that Batz is shooting at a red guy although it is a P-40 not a Hurri. But not having the film and that fight was intense, he just does not remember.
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMX6k5BC/Batz-vs-Morf.png)
Also if you look, you can see that Batz is under Morf in a near vertical dive
Then Batz pulls up and flies directly into Morfs guns
(https://i.postimg.cc/HLR0MQD7/Batz-flies-under-Morf.png)
Morf had no way of seeing that Batz was there until he appeared flying perpendicular to Morfs flight path
(https://i.postimg.cc/3wdCWt6T/External.png)
Gun site view shows the fact that Batz was only there for a split second and Morf apologized right away even though had Batz looked up before he pulled up he could of seen the bottom of Morfs plane
(https://i.postimg.cc/YCXzp5dR/Cockpit-view.png)
Canadians are a different people and way more polite than most. They do not use that language, at least not that I have ever heard. They do speak French at times, so maybe that is how they cuss at people, I would not know. We have several Canadians in the squad with us Americans. I enjoy flying with them, they are a nice group.
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Sorry, Ditto, but your screen shots do not tell the whole story. The moment you show is not the first shot either of them took at the P-40. Nor were they the only ones in a position to engage the P-40. The screen shots you posted were taken 7 seconds after Morph's first shot that this P-40, at a moment when Batz was clearly in view in front of him.
Morf's POV
(https://i.postimg.cc/gjkcpY7G/Morf-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Morf's external view to give a better view of what was happening. Batz is in prime position to take the P-40. The tracers from the left are from me - also in a good firing position.
(https://i.postimg.cc/26Y8HdFb/Morf-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
External view of my 110 at the same moment.
(https://i.postimg.cc/d19Qg74W/Morf-3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I cannot see Batz or Morf but their tracers soon after indicated to me that there were more fighters on that P-40 and I disengaged when he split-S'd. Morf should have done the same given that he was the 3rd man in.
This is the moment Morf fired the rounds which hit Bats, seven seconds later.
(https://i.postimg.cc/x8xfTwrM/Morf-4.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Yeah, Batz's language was a bit harsh in the heat of the moment, but if Morf(or anyone else) can't handle some salt fired their way, they need to be careful of where they shoot their lead. Words can't damage an airplane - unlike friendly bullets.
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OK
Sorry
I am done
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Thanks devil, it could not have been explained better. We have dissected this enough, we have said our parts. Time to drop it.
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:banana:
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CO's need to wrap this one up.
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I do not see where there is any need to continuously hear "F-Bombs" and "G**D***s" repeatedly along with "M*****F*****s" throughout the frame of a FSO event, nor any special event, whether it be a Scenario or it be KOTH or any other event....
If one would not verbally speak like this while eating out in public with their family or verbally speak out using this type of language during a company meeting or in a conference call with 3 different state officials, the Secretary of the DOE and the Base CO of NAS Jax... or one would not use this language around children ranging 18 down to new-born and all young and older Females...
then why do you think that it is acceptable in this game, or in FSO, or in any Special Event?
I'm no Saint, and I have fouled up before.... but no where near like I have heard over local/range VOX these past 2 FSO Frames!
Had I asked any of you kindly to refrain from using such fouled mouth language and any of you was sitting any where within my reach, and you kept on repeatedly using that type of language....
you would have found yourself trying to pick your rear up off the floor along with your teeth, from where I just backfisted you square in the mouth....
it's bad enough that people have to ask others to kindly refrain from using such filth, while talking over the local/range channel.............but to have to repeatedly ask some to refrain is too much
I bet that 99.9% of those who do this, would not DARE openly talk like that in front of their Mother with their Dad anywhere near.......
be nice if squads would self police.... keep that crap on squad vox, if your squad allows it.......keep it off of local/range channel
Cheers
TC
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I do not see where there is any need to continuously hear "F-Bombs" and "G**D***s" repeatedly along with "M*****F*****s" throughout the frame of a FSO event, nor any special event, whether it be a Scenario or it be KOTH or any other event....
If one would not verbally speak like this while eating out in public with their family or verbally speak out using this type of language during a company meeting or in a conference call with 3 different state officials, the Secretary of the DOE and the Base CO of NAS Jax... or one would not use this language around children ranging 18 down to new-born and all young and older Females...
then why do you think that it is acceptable in this game, or in FSO, or in any Special Event?
I'm no Saint, and I have fouled up before.... but no where near like I have heard over local/range VOX these past 2 FSO Frames!
Had I asked any of you kindly to refrain from using such fouled mouth language and any of you was sitting any where within my reach, and you kept on repeatedly using that type of language....
you would have found yourself trying to pick your rear up off the floor along with your teeth, from where I just backfisted you square in the mouth....
it's bad enough that people have to ask others to kindly refrain from using such filth, while talking over the local/range channel.............but to have to repeatedly ask some to refrain is too much
I bet that 99.9% of those who do this, would not DARE openly talk like that in front of their Mother with their Dad anywhere near.......
be nice if squads would self police.... keep that crap on squad vox, if your squad allows it.......keep it off of local/range channel
Cheers
TC
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This discussion is over. January FSO will be posted soon and I hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable New Year Celebration.
:salute
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:D
Have a happy new year everyone!
Remember: Friendly fire can happen whilst out drinking too! Jokes hurt feelings... :devil :bolt:
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I do not see where there is any need to continuously hear "F-Bombs" and "G**D***s" repeatedly along with "M*****F*****s" throughout the frame of a FSO event, nor any special event, whether it be a Scenario or it be KOTH or any other event....
If one would not verbally speak like this while eating out in public with their family or verbally speak out using this type of language during a company meeting or in a conference call with 3 different state officials, the Secretary of the DOE and the Base CO of NAS Jax... or one would not use this language around children ranging 18 down to new-born and all young and older Females...
then why do you think that it is acceptable in this game, or in FSO, or in any Special Event?
I'm no Saint, and I have fouled up before.... but no where near like I have heard over local/range VOX these past 2 FSO Frames!
Had I asked any of you kindly to refrain from using such fouled mouth language and any of you was sitting any where within my reach, and you kept on repeatedly using that type of language....
you would have found yourself trying to pick your rear up off the floor along with your teeth, from where I just backfisted you square in the mouth....
it's bad enough that people have to ask others to kindly refrain from using such filth, while talking over the local/range channel.............but to have to repeatedly ask some to refrain is too much
I bet that 99.9% of those who do this, would not DARE openly talk like that in front of their Mother with their Dad anywhere near.......
be nice if squads would self police.... keep that crap on squad vox, if your squad allows it.......keep it off of local/range channel
Cheers
TC
FSO is no where near any of these official events you have mentioned. FSO is much more aligned to a night out partying. However, things seem to have declined pretty harshly and this party seems to be wrapping up. If I’m banned for cussing out someone for doing something they shouldn’t be that will really show how low things have gone.
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FSO is no where near any of these official events you have mentioned. FSO is much more aligned to a night out partying. However, things seem to have declined pretty harshly and this party seems to be wrapping up. If I'm banned for cussing out someone for doing something they shouldn't be that will really show how low things have gone.
You apparently think or have the illusion that these "FSO Events" are nothing more than being the same thing as getting together with your good ol'boys at the local Pool Hall, Beer joint or Biker's Club and sit around drinking it up, smoking it up and throwing around F-bombs and GD M-F'ers every now and then pissing and moaning about what your Bossman or Wife or Girlfriend made you do this past week... then if you feel up to it, you might follow your orders some CiC volunteered their time to create and get out to the FSO squads on his side all the while hoping his side works together and don't run off playing whack-a-mole trying to score the most kills, or cursing others out because someone mistakenly accidentally flew in front of someones guns
Not giving a crap that this is indeed an Official Special event held 3 frames a Month, where sides are assigned to squads, orders are created and mailed out and Missions are planned by each side Allied & Axis to try and defeat the other...
FSO is just as much official as any and all other special events, like:
Scenarios
Target For Today
Combat Challenge Series
Fortress Europe
TDI (This Day In WWII)
KOTH
KOTH - TOC
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You apparently think or have the illusion that these "FSO Events" are nothing more than being the same thing as getting together with your good ol'boys at the local Pool Hall, Beer joint or Biker's Club and sit around drinking it up, smoking it up and throwing around F-bombs and GD M-F'ers every now and then pissing and moaning about what your Bossman or Wife or Girlfriend made you do this past week... then if you feel up to it, you might follow your orders some CiC volunteered their time to create and get out to the FSO squads on his side all the while hoping his side works together and don't run off playing whack-a-mole trying to score the most kills, or cursing others out because someone mistakenly accidentally flew in front of someones guns
Not giving a crap that this is indeed an Official Special event held 3 frames a Month, where sides are assigned to squads, orders are created and mailed out and Missions are planned by each side Allied & Axis to try and defeat the other...
To some I'm sure that's what it is, a way to blow off steam, have a drink or two with your online buddies and enjoy the camaraderie of friends/squaddies. To others that want to get more invested, I'm sure they find fun in doing that too...planning routes, writing orders, immersing themselves in the mission. Who cares how someone has fun in events as long as it is not blatantly and repeatedly ruining it for others?
Similar to the MA...people can find fun in special events in a variety of different ways.
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If one would not verbally speak like this while eating out in public with their family...
I bet you'd sing a different tune if another customer pissed on your food.
That's what we're really dealing with here. Remember that Batz was reacting to another player's poor play.
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Trying so hard to hold back my tongue. :mad:
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Trying so hard to hold back my tongue. :mad:
:banana: :banana: :banana:
You probably should. I didn’t and look what happened!
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You apparently think or have the illusion that these "FSO Events" are nothing more than being the same thing as getting together with your good ol'boys at the local Pool Hall, Beer joint or Biker's Club and sit around drinking it up, smoking it up and throwing around F-bombs and GD M-F'ers every now and then pissing and moaning about what your Bossman or Wife or Girlfriend made you do this past week... then if you feel up to it, you might follow your orders some CiC volunteered their time to create and get out to the FSO squads on his side all the while hoping his side works together and don't run off playing whack-a-mole trying to score the most kills, or cursing others out because someone mistakenly accidentally flew in front of someones guns
Not giving a crap that this is indeed an Official Special event held 3 frames a Month, where sides are assigned to squads, orders are created and mailed out and Missions are planned by each side Allied & Axis to try and defeat the other...
FSO is just as much official as any and all other special events, like:
Scenarios
Target For Today
Combat Challenge Series
Fortress Europe
TDI (This Day In WWII)
KOTH
KOTH - TOC
Half these events you have listed no longer exist. In addition myself and my squad have a pretty good time, and we use some mean words that might hurt some feeling, but I can’t think of a squad that is more reliable in accomplishing orders or in pure carnage.
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Muting still works last i checked. If you have a thin skin you might try it. You'd think people were made of thicker stuff.
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Some have class and some don't.
All goes back to what kind of parents you had.
It has always been that way.
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Some have class and some don't.
All goes back to what kind of parents you had.
It has always been that way.
So if you were walking through the woods on a hunting trip and your buddy shot you in the arse you wouldn’t cuss him out?
I supposed most who have replied here wouldn’t, they’d bend over and ask for some more.
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Half these events you have listed no longer exist. In addition myself and my squad have a pretty good time, and we use some mean words that might hurt some feeling, but I can’t think of a squad that is more reliable in accomplishing orders or in pure carnage.
All the Events Listed are events Ran by the CM Team for HTC and are still currently ran except for Fortress Europe this was still in testing mode. People still choose to fly these events even tho they are not as popular as FSO but they are still events that run the 2 main events that do not run anymore that used to have a good turn out are Snapshot's which was like a mini FSO and Heavy Metal Sundays which were event's based for the gv players of the game..
Yes I Agree some events have died out due to low numbers but as a whole Community We should try and curb our lingo in the heat of Battles yes I am no angel of this either but I Try to keep it under my tongue and I apologize if I ticked or upset anyone with my Previous Post! I am a Biker and I fight for my Brothers in real life or in my extended family like here
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Molsman/Crazyman
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I'm no Saint, and I have fouled up before
TC
be nice if squads would self police.... keep that crap on squad vox, if your squad allows it.......keep it off of local/range channel
I bet you'd sing a different tune if another customer pissed on your food.
That's what we're really dealing with here. Remember that Batz was reacting to another player's poor play.
not sure about singing a different tune or not... I would still most likely backfist the customer in the face, whom ever it was that decided to relieve themself's on my food, then I would ask the manager to refund my money, if I had already spent any...
I'm not taking up for any player albeit Morfiend or Batz... all of us has been in that position before, and if you claim you haven't, just wait, it will come and again, and again, and again... hardly an issue to get worked upped over or to berate a long time member of the FSO Community, let along a long time member of the Aces High Community
Half these events you have listed no longer exist. In addition myself and my squad have a pretty good time, and we use some mean words that might hurt some feeling, but I can’t think of a squad that is more reliable in accomplishing orders or in pure carnage.
which half of these Special Events no longer exist? The only one that I know for sure that has stopped being hosted is the:
AHXRL : Aces High Extreme Racing League (which I did not include in my original list of events)
I know that both Combat Challenge Series and Fortress Europe(in testing) is still on the forum as well... so please tell us which 1/2 of the Eight listed special events, no longer exist?
As for yourself and your squad have/enjoy having a pretty good time and might even use some mean words or curse words, even......
that is really no different than most all other squads... some just do a better job of it keeping most of the stuff on their squad vox/squad text channels
Some have class and some don't.
All goes back to what kind of parents you had.
It has always been that way.
I'm guessing it's either a generation thing or a country/farm/ranch raised verses city/suburban raised :D
:old: :cheers:
TC
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FE and This day in WWII are gone. There was a total of 10 kills in the last TDI event, you can’t possibly count that as an actual event.
TC you really mentional a lot of physical violence, I think that might just be worse, and more illegal, than a few naughty words. That “back fist” could really land you in more trouble than I am in here. :banana:
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FE and This day in WWII are gone. There was a total of 10 kills in the last TDI event, you can’t possibly count that as an actual event.
TC you really mention a lot of physical violence, I think that might just be worse, and more illegal, than a few naughty words. That “back fist” could really land you in more trouble than I am in here. :banana:
I knew Flossy held a TDI for Pearl Harbor... had not realized it had been nearly a year or more since the last TDI event
Nah, I walk the line, hehe! no trouble here
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So if you were walking through the woods on a hunting trip and your buddy shot you in the arse you wouldn’t cuss him out?
I supposed most who have replied here wouldn’t, they’d bend over and ask for some more.
Just comparing a game to something serious shows you need to step back and reevaluate reality.
Think about what you are saying.
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Just comparing a game to something serious shows you need to step back and reevaluate reality.
Think about what you are saying.
Hey bud I apparently needed to goto that level because your friend TC has been doing it as his main argument. Where was this comment then? I think y’all are taking this a bit far but it’s entertaining for sure. :banana:
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This discussion is over. January FSO will be posted soon and I hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable New Year Celebration.
:salute
Dweeb?
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Hey bud I apparently needed to goto that level because your friend TC has been doing it as his main argument. Where was this comment then? I think y’all are taking this a bit far but it’s entertaining for sure. :banana:
I was not there. I am just reading the thread. I agree this has gone much farther than it should have. A simple reminder to watch ones fire as you can accidentally shoot your own would have sufficed in my book.
Last perfect person to walk this earth was over 2000 years ago. You and I are in the same boat here. We might not always agree but I believe we both enjoy the game.
As far as friends...... everyone is my friend until they prove different. I look at this whole thread as a discussion among friends.
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This post is only a friendly reminder. Please treat each other with dignity and respect. In no way is this reminder intended to single any person or persons out.
Perspective and opinions about the rules and what did or did not happen is not my message. SA is SA. ACM is ACM. Fog of War happens. Here and in real life in real combat. It is why I love this game so much. A touch of reality.
I can confirm last frame I had 5 or 6 other players trying to clear my 12. I stick stirred a ton to avoid friendly fire. LOL
Yes. COs did their jobs handling this behind the scenes. The CM Team did our part behind the scenes.
The incident being discussed from December FSO is a dead issue and not the reason for this post.
I am merely putting out a friendly reminder of what the rules are. We are entering into a new year. I feel it necessary to remind everyone about the rules.
Now...
...get to recruiting new players for FSO!!!
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Carry on!!!
Happy and safe New Year to all!
:rock
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ive been wiped out more then once from friendly fire......it happens. that's the fun of the whole battle thing. then I get even by shooting the crap out of that person in Monday night madness!!! LOL its all in fun!!
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ive been wiped out more then once from friendly fire......it happens. that's the fun of the whole battle thing. then I get even by shooting the crap out of that person in Monday night madness!!! LOL its all in fun!!
... or flying into a building. :aok