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Title: Tu-160 Blackjack
Post by: DaveBB on December 27, 2018, 04:16:13 AM
I was reading about the Tu-160 Blackjack, in an attempt to figure out how many are left.  I was very surprised to see that Russia has restarted the production line on this aircraft, and is modernizing the existing aircraft.  One new aircraft has been completed.  This required a suprising amount of work due to needing to weld titanium.  Allegedly 50 new aircraft will be built.

(https://nationalinterest.org/sites/default/files/styles/desktop__1486_x_614/public/main_images/tu160new.jpg?itok=16xY4WWn)
Title: Re: Tu-160 Blackjack
Post by: Shuffler on December 27, 2018, 04:48:15 AM
Our shop welds titanium. Seems strange that causes a bottleneck in russia.
Title: Re: Tu-160 Blackjack
Post by: BBQsam on December 28, 2018, 05:40:13 PM
That sure is an extra large B-1.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/85/06/f4/8506f4b037a0220e36e0b8a10ff647cc.jpg)


(https://i3.wp.com/pbs.twimg.com/media/CBw7dAKW4AAE6k3.jpg)
Title: Re: Tu-160 Blackjack
Post by: STXAce8 on December 28, 2018, 08:40:02 PM
The Bone is about 70% the size of a TU160.
Title: Re: Tu-160 Blackjack
Post by: Meatwad on December 28, 2018, 09:01:16 PM
Quote from: BBQsam on December 28, 2018, 05:40:13 PM
That sure is an extra large B-1.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/85/06/f4/8506f4b037a0220e36e0b8a10ff647cc.jpg)


(https://i3.wp.com/pbs.twimg.com/media/CBw7dAKW4AAE6k3.jpg)

Extra payload capability to hold cluster turnips
Title: Re: Tu-160 Blackjack
Post by: 1stpar3 on December 28, 2018, 11:35:23 PM
Didnt they ban use of cluster tubers?  :D
Title: Re: Tu-160 Blackjack
Post by: BuckShot on December 29, 2018, 10:25:32 PM
"They" can't tell the commies what to load or not load in their wanna b a b1b!
Title: Re: Tu-160 Blackjack
Post by: Vulcan on December 30, 2018, 04:27:11 AM
Quote from: BuckShot on December 29, 2018, 10:25:32 PM
"They" can't tell the commies what to load or not load in their wanna b a b1b!

Tu-160 was originally designed by Stalin, Amerikans clearly copied the glorious design albeit into a smaller puny bomber.
Title: Re: Tu-160 Blackjack
Post by: BuckShot on December 30, 2018, 06:43:32 AM
Who had the first plane of this type or first idea for the type is debatable. Several sites point to each plane.

62 b1bs in service vs 16 tu160s in service puts the flapjack in wanna b status.
Title: Re: Tu-160 Blackjack
Post by: DaveBB on December 30, 2018, 07:29:34 AM
The TU-160 is like a B-1A on steroids.  Huge payload, very high maximum speed, very long range.  That being said, I don't think it has much low level ability.  This might change with the modernization program.  I don't think the current models have terrain following radar.

The B-1B is optimized for low level flying (think it can do Mach 1.2 on the deck).  A study in the late 70s showed that very few or any U.S. aircraft would have been able to penetrate Soviet airspace.  This is why the B-1A was cancelled.  Also, the B-2 was secretly being produced at the time.