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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: bozon on January 07, 2019, 01:54:05 AM
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While a free account with limited plane selection is not something that will be right for this game, HTC must allow some free access to the main game - players expect to taste the full game before they put money into it - and the 2weeks trial is not good enough for this.
HTC should have “free events” that allow unpaying accounts to play in all arenas during these limited-time reoccurring events.
Now, if they do that 1 weekend every month this will not create a population of freeloaders that play 1 or 2 evenings per month. Players that are willing to put money into a game will want to be able to play at least once a week, and likely much more. That big free weekend will serve as a taste that will make eager players want to play more and not wait another month for the next session. Those undecided can try play again in a couple of weeks and then decide - no pressure.
This free weekend will be an opportunity for the community to arrange special events to showcase that aspect of AH and contribute to recruiting + getting enough players to run large walk-on events like we used to, to the enjoyment of the paying subscribers.
When creating a free account, players should be able to ask to be reminded via email (or sms also?) that a free weekend is starting, so they don’t miss it.
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Allow unpaying accounts to enter the main arena and observe the game - without the ability to spawn. Lets them see the game!
They should be able to send “.join” requests. Text and Vox privileges may be considered, but this could be problematic.
I know that this opens the door for easy spying, but we have enough of that already, and I am not a fan of stealth game tactics anyway.
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I like the idea. It's something different than the other ideas I have seen before. I know on steam other games have free weekends as well and it seem to bumb up the population by a fair size. (Depending on the game of course)
At point 2 I would like to add "join guns on a plane as well" I would even go as far as "join all ack guns". Maybe gives people a sence of accomplishment when they kill someone.
DutchVII
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Fair enough....
Why is two weeks not good?
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+1
Having a free weekend or 2 weeks every year would be a hell of an idea!!!
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Having a free weekend or 2 weeks every year would be a hell of an idea!!!
And it would only work if you advertise the crap out of it to bring in new players, and we all know how that goes over around here. :noid
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and it seem to bumb up the population by a fair size.
No bumbing the population please.
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Fair enough....
Why is two weeks not good?
A one-time two weeks trial puts pressure on the player to play as much as he can or waste the only opportunity he will get. If he wants to try again two months later he cannot get another trial without “work arounds”. Maybe he did not have enough time during these two weeks? Maybe the timing was bad because Fallout 11 just released? Maybe he played it without a stick so he quit afer 30 minues, but now he got a good one? Who knows? But a month or two later he may want to reconsider AH.
Player today are not very decisive and there is a large competition for their playtime and money. They are used to playing first, and then decide if they want to invest money to get more out of the game (micro-transactions, added content, locked areas, locked levels, etc).
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A one-time two weeks trial puts pressure on the player to play as much as he can or waste the only opportunity he will get. If he wants to try again two months later he cannot get another trial without “work arounds”. Maybe he did not have enough time during these two weeks? Maybe the timing was bad because Fallout 11 just released? Maybe he played it without a stick so he quit afer 30 minues, but now he got a good one? Who knows? But a month or two later he may want to reconsider AH.
Player today are not very decisive and there is a large competition for their playtime and money. They are used to playing first, and then decide if they want to invest money to get more out of the game (micro-transactions, added content, locked areas, locked levels, etc).
Not being decisive is a personal problem not a game problem. How far do we lower the link to meet the weakest link?
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Not being decisive is a personal problem not a game problem. How far do we lower the link to meet the weakest link?
It depends. How badly does Hitech want to stay in business?
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Not being decisive is a personal problem not a game problem. How far do we lower the link to meet the weakest link?
I generally disagree. I think the general consensus is that there's too much to learn in this game in 2 weeks if you are green to flight sims. If you've played something like IL2, War Thunder, hell even FSX, you have a general idea of flight sims to begin with and know the basics (joystick most likely, throttle control, flaps, weapons). Therefore, jumping to AH is simply learning the flight model and nuances of the game.
For someone brand new to flight sims who may not have a joystick or has never played anything similar, 2 weeks is not nearly enough. Sure you can say "well they can practice offline first" but really, who's going to want to do that when they can play various other games and jump right into the action? They may start their 2 week and realize they aren't ready for it yet, but it's too late at that point.
Frankly I don't think there's a good period of time that is sufficient, it probably took me a couple months of on and off play to fully grasp the game, get a joystick, etc. Everyone's different, as bozon said who knows what someone goes through on a daily or weekly basis that keeps them from continuing to learn the game. That's not to say it is HTC's fault that someone has life stuff going on, but it is something to consider.
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How many of you when you log in would toggle your ID to be in a queue for guests to the game to do vicarious ride along's where they can only observe in commander mode while you play? It would probably be good that they don't hear VOX and maybe see range text. But no communication to anyone playing the game. I know many players who look at join requests from strangers as an irritation. This could also become vicious with live streaming or screen capture to abuse and embarrass someone. A bit of that took place near the end of AH2.
Or they could join a CM or AI CM who did a CMeye trip through the Live MA once every 15-30 minutes like a tour bus at a wildlife park full of battling Velociraptors.
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I generally disagree. I think the general consensus is that there's too much to learn in this game in 2 weeks if you are green to flight sims. If you've played something like IL2, War Thunder, hell even FSX, you have a general idea of flight sims to begin with and know the basics (joystick most likely, throttle control, flaps, weapons). Therefore, jumping to AH is simply learning the flight model and nuances of the game.
For someone brand new to flight sims who may not have a joystick or has never played anything similar, 2 weeks is not nearly enough. Sure you can say "well they can practice offline first" but really, who's going to want to do that when they can play various other games and jump right into the action? They may start their 2 week and realize they aren't ready for it yet, but it's too late at that point.
Frankly I don't think there's a good period of time that is sufficient, it probably took me a couple months of on and off play to fully grasp the game, get a joystick, etc. Everyone's different, as bozon said who knows what someone goes through on a daily or weekly basis that keeps them from continuing to learn the game. That's not to say it is HTC's fault that someone has life stuff going on, but it is something to consider.
How long do you get to play Monopoly before you have to buy it. :)
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It depends. How badly does Hitech want to stay in business?
I agree..... free accounts is a great way to go under...... quickly.
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I agree..... free accounts is a great way to go under...... quickly.
The current model seems to be a great way to go under...... slowly.
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The current model seems to be a great way to go under...... slowly.
Numbers seem to be rising. Knee jerk reactions looking for quick responses can go both ways..... good quicky, bad quickly. Much better to take small steps and watch the road. It is a business, not a ball game. :salute
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Numbers seem to be rising. Knee jerk reactions looking for quick responses can go both ways..... good quicky, bad quickly. Much better to take small steps and watch the road. It is a business, not a ball game. :salute
Hence the reason HTC is using a new title to test the effectiveness limited feature F2P accounts. They can see if it shows promise before deciding if they want to fold that improvement into AHIII.
:salute
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How long do you get to play Monopoly before you have to buy it. :)
Pretty bad analogy considering it costs the same amount to buy Monopoly as it does for 1 month of AH and you have Monopoly for life. Monopoly is not SaaS.
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Pretty bad analogy considering it costs the same amount to buy Monopoly as it does for 1 month of AH and you have Monopoly for life. Monopoly is not SaaS.
I am trying to make it simple in case you know who we are talking about are trying to read this.
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How many of you when you log in would toggle your ID to be in a queue for guests to the game to do vicarious ride along's where they can only observe in commander mode while you play? It would probably be good that they don't hear VOX and maybe see range text. But no communication to anyone playing the game. I know many players who look at join requests from strangers as an irritation. This could also become vicious with live streaming or screen capture to abuse and embarrass someone. A bit of that took place near the end of AH2.
Or they could join a CM or AI CM who did a CMeye trip through the Live MA once every 15-30 minutes like a tour bus at a wildlife park full of battling Velociraptors.
I would have allow any new player in my plane any time.. good idea actually.
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I would have allow any new player in my plane any time.. good idea actually.
you do realise this is what I let Middy do one time! :devil
still he got a good few years out of it so point proven.
as for the OP idea it has some merit, would be pretty easy to mailshot old subscribers call it Big weekend or something.
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Numbers seem to be rising.
EU prime time numbers seem to be dropping.
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Numbers are traditionally going slightly up around the holidays, only to drop down again afterwards.
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EU prime time numbers seem to be dropping.
There is no such thing as a Euro prime time. For us on this side of the pond the game have been pretty much dead for a long time. You can only play at weekend nights if you want to find any decent number of players online.
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There is no such thing as a Euro prime time. For us on this side of the pond the game have been pretty much dead for a long time. You can only play at weekend nights if you want to find any decent number of players online.
This..
And if people have issues that players join there plane than there should be an option that could turn off the request for that player. Easy fix.
I am pretty much agreeing with Lazer. I would let any new player join my plane, heck I would even let them take control if that means they have fun.
DutchVII
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I would also let anyone fly with me.
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I would let any new player join my plane,
Would? Did! Every time. The last random join request I got was in 2010 or something.
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Would? Did! Every time. The last random join request I got was in 2010 or something.
I got one just last week I believe, may have been the week before. Never heard of the guy before. He stayed a bit.
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Would? Did! Every time. The last random join request I got was in 2010 or something.
I had one just last week. Dont if it helped him or not but I had a good fight and won and another fight that I didnt do so well in but limped home with it.
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I think mine was concerned I did not have a designated driver.
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Me too, unless its Zack1234, he have no underwear :D
This..
And if people have issues that players join there plane than there should be an option that could turn off the request for that player. Easy fix.
I am pretty much agreeing with Lazer. I would let any new player join my plane, heck I would even let them take control if that means they have fun.
DutchVII
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a former squaddie of mine took up a set of bombers and had a new player join him, the 1st thing the guy did was start firing all the guns until they were empty, he had to bail and start over. said he would never have a new guy join him again
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a former squaddie of mine took up a set of bombers and had a new player join him, the 1st thing the guy did was start firing all the guns until they were empty, he had to bail and start over. said he would never have a new guy join him again
In a bomber you have different issues.
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1)
While a free account with limited plane selection is not something that will be right for this game, HTC must allow some free access to the main game - players expect to taste the full game before they put money into it - and the 2weeks trial is not good enough for this.
HTC should have “free events” that allow unpaying accounts to play in all arenas during these limited-time reoccurring events.
Now, if they do that 1 weekend every month this will not create a population of freeloaders that play 1 or 2 evenings per month. Players that are willing to put money into a game will want to be able to play at least once a week, and likely much more. That big free weekend will serve as a taste that will make eager players want to play more and not wait another month for the next session. Those undecided can try play again in a couple of weeks and then decide - no pressure.
This free weekend will be an opportunity for the community to arrange special events to showcase that aspect of AH and contribute to recruiting + getting enough players to run large walk-on events like we used to, to the enjoyment of the paying subscribers.
When creating a free account, players should be able to ask to be reminded via email (or sms also?) that a free weekend is starting, so they don’t miss it.
2)
Allow unpaying accounts to enter the main arena and observe the game - without the ability to spawn. Lets them see the game!
They should be able to send “.join” requests. Text and Vox privileges may be considered, but this could be problematic.
I know that this opens the door for easy spying, but we have enough of that already, and I am not a fan of stealth game tactics anyway.
I thought they already did with a trial account?
But, interesting idea to draw my interesting.
Free account gets same trial period.
After that, they can still use the game and join all arenas except, if they are killed "x" times, they have to wait 24, 48, xyz hours until they can rejoin the "live" arenas.
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