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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Oldman731 on February 09, 2019, 09:50:38 PM
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For those who are as ignorant as I was (and there must be at least one or two), the Match Play arena now gives you the option of Free for All. Some things of note:
- Unlike the head-to-head options, you don't simply sit in the tower. You have to take off, just as you do in the MA. Took me awhile before I figured this out.
- There are drones. And they are very good. One of the best fights I've had in recent memory was against the AI4 Avenger. The drones aren't the super-drones we used to see in the AvA experiments; these can be beaten. But it's a great challenge.
- Result is that there's no harm in logging into Match Play. You can fuss with the drones until a human appears (if ever; didn't happen to me this night) (and possibly I got better fights for that).
- Confession: Not knowing about the AI, I was handing out salutes to the drones when they got me. "Rude," I thought, "they don't even say 'Good fight, Oldman.' Kids today have no grace."
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AI4 is the only drone that flies there. I wouldn't say he's good but can out-sustained turn pretty much anything in anything and also zoom up ridiculously after such sustained turning where normally you'd have drained a human opponent. I suspect he's not subjected to the same flight model we are. Does make him slightly dangerous.
He will pick as well so interpose any human players and he'll go for them first :rofl Also beware there is a human player named AI9.
Probably the best fights are bombers which also fly like fighters but his off-bore gunning is pretty good. Ki-67 is lethal with the top-mounted 20-mm. Best dogfights I've had against him are Lancaster, Ki-67 and Tempest the latter cleanly out-flat turned my Ki-84.
The two best things I think is the arial gunnery practice, which is far closer to what you need against a human opponent than anything we've had so far and the fact there's something to do when you'd otherwise be alone and forced to sit in the tower. Ask me how I know.
I'd like that you could add more AI and they'd even raise their game if you consistently beat them.
- Confession: Not knowing about the AI, I was handing out salutes to the drones when they got me. "Rude," I thought, "they don't even say 'Good fight, Oldman.' Kids today have no grace."
:rofl :aok
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Are your new?
Dan carlin podcast - supernova in the east - what i always suspected :old:
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Bruh! :banana:
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Bruh! :banana:
Bruh! Hope you are well :salute
Are your new?
Don't you think the days of new things around here a bit limited? :rofl
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Played for a few minutes today in there. Fought against AI4. Pretty much kicked its butt :devil. Wasn't sure how to increase its difficulty. So weird fighting an AI. Thought he was going to respawn after the first fight, flew around for like 3 minutes thinking another one was going to spawn... I could only fight the same one and had to restart the fight every time. Needs to be some directions in the arena message. Would like to have more enter the fight without having to end the sortie every time. I do think this is a good idea with the AI if you are bored in the MA.
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Bruh! Hope you are well :salute
Don't you think the days of new things around here a bit limited? :rofl
You smell of the EU parliament :rofl
Your not having your 39 billion :rofl
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Played for a few minutes today in there. Fought against AI4. Pretty much kicked its butt :devil. Wasn't sure how to increase its difficulty. So weird fighting an AI. Thought he was going to respawn after the first fight, flew around for like 3 minutes thinking another one was going to spawn... I could only fight the same one and had to restart the fight every time. Needs to be some directions in the arena message. Would like to have more enter the fight without having to end the sortie every time. I do think this is a good idea with the AI if you are bored in the MA.
The AI don't appear to use flaps so if you want a better fight give yourself the same limitation.
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I spent some time in here - good fun - can more AI drones be added - they never run or complain!.
I notice f3 is enabled which is a bummer for hose who don't use it.
good work.
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AI4 is the only drone that flies there. I wouldn't say he's good but can out-sustained turn pretty much anything in anything and also zoom up ridiculously after such sustained turning where normally you'd have drained a human opponent. I suspect he's not subjected to the same flight model we are. Does make him slightly dangerous.
:rofl :aok
So he is just another Yak3 ? :D
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I had a go at it today. A14 upped a lone B17 in dogfight mode and could out turn my P47M. I gave it a few goes but got bored.
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I had a go at it today. A14 upped a lone B17 in dogfight mode and could out turn my P47M. I gave it a few goes but got bored.
Sounds realistic.
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You smell of the EU parliament :rofl
Your not having your 39 billion :rofl
Zack's just bitter because after Brexit the only pie he'll be eating is Woolton Pie under the new ration scheme in the mid-Atlantic 1950s theme park version of the UK. :rofl
The AI don't appear to use flaps so if you want a better fight give yourself the same limitation.
The AIs don't appear to need their flaps to out-perform even the best turners.
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The numbers of drones and their difficulty are simple host settings.
I set the number to 4(only 2 will attack any 1 person at a time) and raised there difficultly.
HiTech
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Thanks for the addition, the drones do not seem to attack at all now other than the bomber gunners.
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"How's the AI difficulty level?"
Would it be possible to throw at least one really tough f3kker in there. Or otherwise is it possible to make them adaptive to, say, the ELO-level of their opponent?
Otherwise it's fantastic. The arena has been well-populated all (Euro) afternoon. I even saw an old Furball lake player show up. Very good development for Euro-Timezone players.
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By well-populated I mean the activity possibility brings in a human player, which brings in other human players and then we've got 4-6 human players in there. Bingo.
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Zack's just bitter because after Brexit the only pie he'll be eating is Woolton Pie under the new ration scheme in the mid-Atlantic 1950s theme park version of the UK. :rofl
When the Chinese and India are fully brought online in 20 years time and are making BMWs and Mercs for $4000 i would not want to be bordering Germany :rofl
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When the Chinese and India are fully brought online in 20 years time and are making BMWs and Mercs for $4000 i would not want to be bordering Germany :rofl
The definition of irony: a country wanting to leave a collective union apparently motivated entirely on fiercely nationalistic grounds and a fundamental fear of foreigners, actually buys 156% more German cars than the entire US market. More German cars are exported to the UK than anywhere else :rofl
Meanwhile a quick review of the UK car industry:
Land Rover - owned by TATA, India.
Jaguar - owned by TATA, India.
Mini - owned by BMW, Germany.
Rolls-Royce - owned by BMW, Germany.
Bentley - owned by Volkswagen, Germany.
MG - owned by SAIC, China.
Aston Martin - owned by Ford, USA, Investment Dar, Kuwait, Invest Industrial, Italy.
Vauxhall - owned by General Motors, USA
Lotus - owned by Proton, Malaysia
And finally...
The Morgan Motor Company - the only noteworthy car company still UK owned by the same family since it was founded in 1910. Still making wooden-framed cars with 176 employees and soon to be the only car available to UK residents with a waiting list of 567 years (because they use German engines) :rofl :rofl :rofl
Slightly of topic, maybe, but the title did say free-for-all :neener:
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Noble?
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Volvo / Yamaha engines <shrug>. Zack can't drive a Noble. 50cc is his performance limit :banana:
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Back on topic though the MPA's free-for-all area is now so popular that it's killed the duelling queue. Just cannot get a damn duel :mad:
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Exactly more German cars are bought in the UK than the US.
Not a single German car is made is made in the UK. (British people dont pay their bills making German cars)
EDF - French government owned electricity company owns nearly all of the UK electricty companys, WHY to subsidise the French economy of working 4 hours a day and getting paid for 8 hours.
Leaving a Collective union? Fear for foreigners what the hell are you talking about?
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Who do you think the Germans care about? The English, No German people.
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The definition of irony: a country wanting to leave a collective union apparently motivated entirely on fiercely nationalistic grounds and a fundamental fear of foreigners, actually buys 156% more German cars than the entire US market. More German cars are exported to the UK than anywhere else :rofl
Meanwhile a quick review of the UK car industry:
Land Rover - owned by TATA, India.
Jaguar - owned by TATA, India.
Mini - owned by BMW, Germany.
Rolls-Royce - owned by BMW, Germany.
Bentley - owned by Volkswagen, Germany.
MG - owned by SAIC, China.
Aston Martin - owned by Ford, USA, Investment Dar, Kuwait, Invest Industrial, Italy.
Vauxhall - owned by General Motors, USA
Lotus - owned by Proton, Malaysia
And finally...
The Morgan Motor Company - the only noteworthy car company still UK owned by the same family since it was founded in 1910. Still making wooden-framed cars with 176 employees and soon to be the only car available to UK residents with a waiting list of 567 years (because they use German engines) :rofl :rofl :rofl
Slightly of topic, maybe, but the title did say free-for-all :neener:
The EU has poor intentions that will decline western civilization back to the dark ages. And they are trying!
While the UK may need foreign products, they should not be controlled by Brussels and a EU army. Albeit UK nationalist manufacturing/Computer/coading should increase in order to benefit the working zone economy. The world cannot depend on cheap labor/materials from China and SE Asia anymore as their countries devalue from lack of real work. The world cannot depend on cheap migrants fleeing africa and not helping their own countries. Europe is too diverse for a one state government ruled by a round table at Brussels. They cannot live on high taxes causing rampant inflation any longer. France has already had it. Italy has had it. Poland has had it. Greece has had it. It's time for countries to depend on theirselves again thru fair market trade.
As far as the MPA discussion goes. The next step should be to allow players to choose who they want to fight in the duel. And allow them to pick teams in the 2v2 ect option. This would greatly help everyone.
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Exactly more German cars are bought in the UK than the US.
Because a goodly percentage of British people keep buying them. On credit :)
EDF - French government owned electricity company owns nearly all of the UK electricty companys
Yes. The French took an intelligent and pragmatic mid-term view of nuclear fission. Holland buys 84% of its electricity from Belgium. There's two reactors that only power Holland. Meanwhile Dutch people think it's the offshore windmills which load up their Teslas, and that they are nuclear-free :rofl Norway is now arguably more influential than the American government. You should look into why :aok
The EU has poor intentions that will decline western civilization back to the dark ages...
What a fantastically nebulous argument brah! Actually I was trying to confine my political machinations to irritate Zack for old times-sake. I'm sure this sort of discussion is very naughty and we'll all be PNGed in the morning like so many that have gone before us!
I'll merely forward the proposition that in the broadest terms the divisions between citizens of this nation or that are utterly insignificant compared to the divisions of classes of people within the containers of said nations. Brexit is a fascinating example as you're about to witness the British political class punish their own people (who they claim to represent) for democratically defying their wishes and desires. Going to be messy for Zack (http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/stirpot.gif)
Back on topic - I think the MPA is now as unrepresentative an arena as the DA used to be, even though there's a parallel in actual fighting. HiTech is unlikely to open a suggestion box or listen to us nutters about arena disposition I suggest. Divisions brah, divisions!
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Off topic:
IMO if it can be programmed, randomly the AI planes have varying skill levels AND various aggression levels. Over aggression would cause more collisions, conservative AI ace levels much less chance of collision. Also various levels of TnB vs BnZ AI pilots skill levels.
Back on topic:
Zack should be crowned King and buyback Rolls Royce.
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Politics locking this thread.