(PLEASE: No Politics or Gun Issues or Crazy stuff. I just want to express a simple thought.)
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Maverick on March 15, 2019, 10:14:05 AM
Such a senseless act. :cry Pity that the shooter was not booked into the morgue.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: novice on March 15, 2019, 10:53:42 AM
Very sad indeed.
On the other hand, at least here in the USA hatred for Islam is spreading like wildfire on social media. Mostly nonsense but pll dont take the time to fact check anything these days and rising ignorance and lack of education with the youth is not exactly helping. I am really surprised this has not happened in USA yet, I think its only matter of time, the mosque shooting that is.
As sad this is it did not come as a surprise at all unortunately.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Shuffler on March 15, 2019, 11:37:58 AM
There are some sick folks out there. We used to take folks with mental issues and place them in an institution. Bleeding hearts preferred they be out where no one notices when they are falling off the earth. With no help..... we see this kind of tragedy.
Prayers for one and all.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: zack1234 on March 15, 2019, 12:17:04 PM
Horrible :old:
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Zimme83 on March 15, 2019, 12:33:03 PM
Create the right environment and this will happen, no matter the ideology. RIP
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Vraciu on March 15, 2019, 12:59:47 PM
Well, maybe this will motivate people to get a grip on the radicals within their respective faiths. Otherwise, It's gonna happen again.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Guppy35 on March 15, 2019, 01:23:55 PM
There are some sick folks out there. We used to take folks with mental issues and place them in an institution. Bleeding hearts preferred they be out where no one notices when they are falling off the earth. With no help..... we see this kind of tragedy.
Prayers for one and all.
Shuff I'm going to disagree with you on this one. I've worked with folks in crisis since 1979. The budgets started getting cut during Ronnie's reign and have been going down ever since. We used to have the mental health beds to use. They are long gone and the waiting list at hospitals to get into the few we have is lengthy. In the best times we were getting to folks before it was too late. But that's been disappearing since the late 80s.
We are driven by money and profit, and there isn't any in taking care of those who can't afford to pay for it. So they end up getting lost and forgotten until something like this happens. We as a society have to make this a priority, but that means putting our money where are 'thoughts and prayers" are and providing the resources to help those folks who can't help themselves.
In the current climate, with more cuts proposed and on the horizon, I doubt we'll do anything but 'thoughts and prayers", and bemoan the system while we hold tight to our wallets like we do every time this stuff happens.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 15, 2019, 01:36:54 PM
My condolences to all families involved. :salute
I don't support Islam but this is not the way to stop any sort of terrorism.
The black sun occult symbolism on his bag and his manifesto give it away to me that this is not random.
This attack happened on the Ides of March.
The attack comes just before Friday that Q has been threatening big releases of incriminating evidence against the left.
They are attempting to spring the holy war in order to avoid their global persecution for crimes against humanity.
We must all pray that this evil used to propagandize the masses will end soon.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: 1stpar3 on March 15, 2019, 01:53:56 PM
I don't support Islam but this is not the way to stop any sort of terrorism.
The black sun occult symbolism on his bag and his manifesto give it away to me that this is not random.
This attack happened on the Ides of March.
The attack comes just before Friday that Q has been threatening big releases of incriminating evidence against the left.
They are attempting to spring the holy war in order to avoid their global persecution for crimes against humanity.
We must all pray that this evil used to propagandize the masses will end soon.
Did you notice how he described himself in his Manifesto? Used terms WE hear alot, here. Too me it seems John Brown-ish? He wanted to fight Slavery by starting a war,(short version). Wrong way to go about it, but it really inflamed tensions between the factions. Like we need more Inflaming in our population. Hope it is just an idiotic individual and not a spark :uhoh
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 15, 2019, 02:12:32 PM
Sources have already found that he visited Pakastan (sketch with what I know today about Pakastan.) And just loved it, loved the people, loved the land. Does this sound like something an anti Islamic white supremacists would do or say?
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Zimme83 on March 15, 2019, 02:37:59 PM
Sources have already found that he visited Pakastan (sketch with what I know today about Pakastan.) And just loved it, loved the people, loved the land. Does this sound like something an anti Islamic white supremacists would do or say?
Dont go there. We know that you like conspiracies but you dont have to ruin every thread.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Vulcan on March 15, 2019, 02:54:59 PM
You need to understand that being a small country we are ALL Kiwis, there is no them and us. The people that died are Kiwis. All religious faiths (and non-religious) here live and work shoulder to shoulder without hatred and as mates. This act is pure evil, pure hatred.
This has wounded us deeply. We are a pretty peaceful people. This piece of scum is not even of our nation. This is not something we wanted. This is a scar on our nation that will never heal.
The Deans Ave Mosque is just around the corner from where I went to school (Christchurch Boys High School). I grew up in Christchurch (don't live there now) so this is pretty emotional for me too.
To all my cuzzies, Kia Kaha.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 15, 2019, 02:58:00 PM
Dont go there. We know that you like conspiracies but you dont have to ruin every thread.
I'm posting facts. You are the one calling me a conspiracy theorist because for some reason we aren't allowed to know or talk about the real truth of these crazy psychopaths. You are ruining the thread with name calling, not me. This effects the entire world!
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: CptTrips on March 15, 2019, 03:04:50 PM
This kind of crap just burns me up. It is so completely pointless and stupid.
My condolences.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: SPKmes on March 15, 2019, 03:14:19 PM
sources will find he scratched his butt on the on the left cheek at 2:15pm on a thursday in march last year...and this was a clear sign and should have been on a watch list....last night they crossed live to Aussie to be outside the house he lived in 10 years ago....I mean...WTF seriously... his dad died at an early age of 50 and this caused blah blah blah......
Sensationalizing is the problem here.... the guy had a screw loose...and so did the people who helped.... His manifesto from all reports is full of name dropping only..... and the people named are as confused and outraged as others.... The fact he was getting egged on during the live stream is a problem also.... the disassociation we have due to social media is quite frankly scary.... it is how this type of thing lives.... yes there are messed up people in the world for sure...but I say that if most of those egging on were there in person...they would be way different...
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Wiley on March 15, 2019, 03:21:08 PM
The fact he was getting egged on during the live stream is a problem also.... the disassociation we have due to social media is quite frankly scary.... it is how this type of thing lives.... yes there are messed up people in the world for sure...but I say that if most of those egging on were there in person...they would be way different...
They'd be different only because they'd be visible. Something like this was inevitable. The interesting thing will be the reactions of the lawmakers.
Horrible thing to happen. A shack in the mountains looks more and more inviting every day.
Wiley.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: SPKmes on March 15, 2019, 03:22:15 PM
yep and we all thought those preppers were crazy hahahahaha
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Wiley on March 15, 2019, 03:26:25 PM
There's going to be a lot of noise about they need to do something about the social media that allowed him to broadcast what he was doing, because that's easier to make rules about than it is to stop crimes or fix mental illness.
Wiley.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Shuffler on March 15, 2019, 03:35:45 PM
yep and we all thought those preppers were crazy hahahahaha
I am a prepper. When you don't understand something it can look crazy. Prepping is nothing more than insurance. I bet you have some type of insurance. Any insurance is just betting something may happen and hoping it doesn't. My current home I have has had flood insurance on it since I bought it 30 years a go. Never flooded till hurricane Harvey. Glad I had the insurance.
I hope to never need my insurance that is my ability to continue to survive if things go bad in this world. It makes me comfortable to know I can still provide for my family when stores and stations are all closed.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: ACE on March 15, 2019, 05:31:07 PM
I am a prepper. When you don't understand something it can look crazy. Prepping is nothing more than insurance. I bet you have some type of insurance. Any insurance is just betting something may happen and hoping it doesn't. My current home I have has had flood insurance on it since I bought it 30 years a go. Never flooded till hurricane Harvey. Glad I had the insurance.
I hope to never need my insurance that is my ability to continue to survive if things go bad in this world. It makes me comfortable to know I can still provide for my family when stores and stations are all closed.
As someone who went through something similar to you (house fire) did you have problems with your insurance company dropping you afterwards? We had a full investigation as usual in our state to make sure it wasn’t Arson. Proved it was the HVAC unit in the attic and they still dropped us after they shorted us on what everything was worth.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Shuffler on March 15, 2019, 05:54:35 PM
No problems at all with insurance. In fact they came through in spades. They had their guy here in just a few days. They sent me a 13k check 2 days later just so I could get some stuff rolling.
After I sent my list of contents in it took about a week and they were sending my main check.
I already had my insurance guy shopping flood insurance with the thought of possibly saving a few bucks. Even though the insurance did very well, I actually changed insurance companies afterward. So I guess I dropped them.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Busher on March 15, 2019, 07:23:14 PM
It always saddens me that people identify with "tribes". Far more pleasant to accept or reject each individual you meet in this life based on the experience at the time of meeting. We'd all likely have more friends and definitely fewer perceived enemies.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Oldman731 on March 15, 2019, 10:05:17 PM
You need to understand that being a small country we are ALL Kiwis, there is no them and us. The people that died are Kiwis. All religious faiths (and non-religious) here live and work shoulder to shoulder without hatred and as mates. This act is pure evil, pure hatred.
This has wounded us deeply. We are a pretty peaceful people. This piece of scum is not even of our nation. This is not something we wanted. This is a scar on our nation that will never heal.
The Deans Ave Mosque is just around the corner from where I went to school (Christchurch Boys High School). I grew up in Christchurch (don't live there now) so this is pretty emotional for me too.
To all my cuzzies, Kia Kaha.
Very sorry for you and yours, Vulcan. The whole world is pulling for you. Don't let the inevitable degeneration of this thread make things even sadder.
- oldman
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: ACE on March 16, 2019, 12:13:58 PM
No problems at all with insurance. In fact they came through in spades. They had their guy here in just a few days. They sent me a 13k check 2 days later just so I could get some stuff rolling.
After I sent my list of contents in it took about a week and they were sending my main check.
I already had my insurance guy shopping flood insurance with the thought of possibly saving a few bucks. Even though the insurance did very well, I actually changed insurance companies afterward. So I guess I dropped them.
Good to hear they took care of you. We never missed a payment and never had a claim. Stalled us for months on a check then dropped us. (Farm bureau). Tornado just destroyed half our community. Most had the same company insurance. They ALL got dropped. Shame really
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Shuffler on March 16, 2019, 12:38:47 PM
Good to hear they took care of you. We never missed a payment and never had a claim. Stalled us for months on a check then dropped us. (Farm bureau). Tornado just destroyed half our community. Most had the same company insurance. They ALL got dropped. Shame really
Should be illegal.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: MiloMorai on March 16, 2019, 12:42:25 PM
Why is it if some Muslims get massacred by a 'whitey' there is 24/7 news coverage for days on end but when some Christians get massacred by Moslems it is only a blip in the news coverage.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Arlo on March 16, 2019, 01:31:32 PM
It always saddens me that people identify with "tribes". Far more pleasant to accept or reject each individual you meet in this life based on the experience at the time of meeting. We'd all likely have more friends and definitely fewer perceived enemies.
:cheers:
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Arlo on March 16, 2019, 01:32:47 PM
Why is it if some Muslims get massacred by a 'whitey' there is 24/7 news coverage for days on end but when some Christians get massacred by Moslems it is only a blip in the news coverage.
:noid
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: mikeWe9a on March 16, 2019, 02:39:37 PM
Human nature. For there to be an "us," there also has to be a "them," otherwise the "us" becomes meaningless.
Uh, no. There really can be an us with no them and it is quite meaningful. Think about it. Humans are a communal species (even with non-humans). 'Them' thinkers are dividers looking for a reason for division. It's radicalization of rationality (turning it into rationalization). Extremists need a 'them.'
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Shuffler on March 16, 2019, 03:12:03 PM
It always saddens me that people identify with "tribes".
It would probably become easier to understand if you were ever placed in a position of survival. Since the beginning of time humans and animals group together for survival.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Arlo on March 16, 2019, 03:24:22 PM
It would probably become easier to understand if you were ever placed in a position of survival. Since the beginning of time humans and animals group together for survival.
Alas, not being on a deserted island with limited food/resources you would think precludes such mentality. Grouping together for survival can also be done without inventing a threat to do so. Being a student of what the Nazis did to grab power in Germany (literally, in a university setting) scapegoating was used for political survival, not literal survival. So it was fear mongering such as "the Jews stabbed us in the back' and "Jews are poisoning our pure Aryan bloodline" that was used to divide (and conquer). Anything can be radicalized and in doing so the real 'them' threatens society, in general. Extremists are the real 'them.' And if they went away, we would be left with .... us.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Shuffler on March 16, 2019, 03:28:40 PM
Yes... and just because some use it in a negative way does not preclude others from using it for survival.
A group of one stands a tall chance of running into one of those groups that use their power for evil.
Nothing is perfect.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Arlo on March 16, 2019, 03:36:10 PM
I'm not saying I'm not pragmatic. Hell, Kelly and I talk about 'what ifs' should society collapse and whatnot (knowing full well that there will be those who are more into taking what you have whether you'll share or not). But looking for reasons to hate entire groups of people is destructive and should not be encouraged.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Vulcan on March 16, 2019, 04:46:28 PM
An update...
We are now up to 50 deaths, an extra body that had others on top of it was discovered after police started removing bodies. There are 50 people in hospital, 36 with series injuries, 2 who are critical. There are children as young as 3 in 4 in hospital that have been shot. Police have not released a list of the victims yet, there is an unofficial list so that families can confirm the deaths of loved ones. There are children among the dead.
It was a single gunman, other arrests during the crisis were unrelated. The gunman had 5 guns, 2 semi-autos, 1 lever action, and 2 shotguns. There were also explosives recovered in his vehicle. The gunman had no criminal history. He is an Australian, who has been in and out of NZ over the last couple of years. According to his manifesto he came to NZ to train for an attack he was going to carry out in Australia, but for unknown reasons decided to do it here.
The two cops that captured him committed an extreme act of bravery (imho), they deduced he was likely going to a 3rd location (my guess is that was a 3 mosque in the north of the city) - rammed his vehicle on the driver side door - he may have received a rifle butt to the face to encourage co-operation. In the arrest video it looks like he popped his rear door open possibly intending to grab a gun from the back.
It sounds like he made a lot of money in the Bitconnect ponzi scheme. This funded his travels, vehicles, and firearms.
In NZ we do not have the death penalty, and a life sentence is not really life. But we do have a preventative detention law, which will be used assuming he is not evaluated as insane.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: zack1234 on March 16, 2019, 04:50:08 PM
All crimminals are insane
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: SysError on March 17, 2019, 05:23:10 AM
I am assuming that this story has been vetted.
48 year old went after gunman with a credit card scanning machine, chased him unarmed through a parking lot weaving through cars, tired using a discarded weapon that turned out to be spent, and smashed the gunman’s car window causing him to flee.
A minor blip in the media, https://www.christianpost.com/news/120-people-killed-140-homes-destroyed-by-nigeria-fulani-since-february.html
The one is in Nigeria, the other happen in NZ. Killings in countires like that get relatively little coverage, unless it's happening to someone like tourists from western countries. A muslim extremist doing the same thing in NZ would have the same massive coverage as the current events over there do.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: 1stpar3 on March 18, 2019, 12:03:34 AM
True Snailman, also not all Muslims are created evil :uhoh You know what I mean? As I understand it Vulcan, these were refugees who left for safety? Once in NZ they acclimated and took in more recent refugees from Syria and other places and WERE NOT the radicalized branch of Islam? Like with most all races and religions, I get along with most and have no need for the others. Still cant understand the hate some folk have. I could almost understand it if NZ had major terrorist actions going on from this group, but I never heard of any. As I read some reports, they have been there,some of them for several years without a problem. Hope they can come out of this without more problems
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Vulcan on March 18, 2019, 06:12:51 PM
True Snailman, also not all Muslims are created evil :uhoh You know what I mean? As I understand it Vulcan, these were refugees who left for safety? Once in NZ they acclimated and took in more recent refugees from Syria and other places and WERE NOT the radicalized branch of Islam? Like with most all races and religions, I get along with most and have no need for the others. Still cant understand the hate some folk have. I could almost understand it if NZ had major terrorist actions going on from this group, but I never heard of any. As I read some reports, they have been there,some of them for several years without a problem. Hope they can come out of this without more problems
NZ has a fairly small Muslim population. So these Mosques tend to be attended by all corners of Islam - Afghans, Ethiopians, Indonesians, ,Malaysians, Pakistani's, Syrians and so forth. Plus we have 2nd 3rd and even old generation Muslims. There are many refugee families that are 1st generation Kiwis, and some of the 2nd and 3rd generation kiwis families were refugees from places like Iran.
The only radicals NZ has had have been the oddball fruitcake that has gone of to join ISIS - and those few have been of caucasian ethnicity (ie Kiwis who converted to Islam from online sources, not local Mosques or anything). We've got one fat f**k in syria who wants to come home, and our government though they cannot cancel his citizenship did a "Yeah nah, we don't have any resources near syria mate, thanks for calling byyyye".
My boss is Muslim, she is caucasian and absolutely awesome - and I would not want to mess with her - she is a strong lady whom I have nothing but respect for (she is also an avid Doctor Who fan). The muslim community is part of NZ, possibly even more so from the public reaction we have had here. I guess it helps in a horrible way that the shooter is an Australian.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: guncrasher on March 18, 2019, 11:48:05 PM
you know what bugs me is that people are saying well, this happened here and nobody says anything, my question is then how did you find out? this is how i see it, my mother beat the crap out of me, i was hard on my kids but nowhere as vicious as my mother. only grand kids i have is my daughter is she has never even raised her voice to her kids and they are well adjusted. so when do we stop. was i right with my kids? was my mom right with me? or my is daughter right with her kids. when do we stop the insanity? edit: is not when but who will stop the insanity?
I understand the hate i have for my mother and well to i understand the sometimes distrust my kids have with me. but when is enough enough? when do we stop saying well this guy killed somebody so all his neighbors must be punished. even though his neighbors dont agree with him, they wished he had been aborted at birth just like the rest of us. when is enough enough?
semp
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Shuffler on March 19, 2019, 02:51:45 AM
you know what bugs me is that people are saying well, this happened here and nobody says anything, my question is then how did you find out? this is how i see it, my mother beat the crap out of me, i was hard on my kids but nowhere as vicious as my mother. only grand kids i have is my daughter is she has never even raised her voice to her kids and they are well adjusted. so when do we stop. was i right with my kids? was my mom right with me? or my is daughter right with her kids. when do we stop the insanity? edit: is not when but who will stop the insanity?
I understand the hate i have for my mother and well to i understand the sometimes distrust my kids have with me. but when is enough enough? when do we stop saying well this guy killed somebody so all his neighbors must be punished. even though his neighbors dont agree with him, they wished he had been aborted at birth just like the rest of us. when is enough enough?
semp
I think the feelings come from when the known radicals living among a group are not pointed out and allowed to mingle in until they do their dirty deeds in many cases causes the balance of the people to be blamed.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 19, 2019, 09:57:29 AM
Annnnnd this has turned into another example of a shooting being used to take away the rights, free media, and speech away from NZ, with no questions asked. Another great example of a guy becoming radicalized and the Intel agencies probably knowing about it before it happened. Y'all better figure out how to get that wacko PM outa office before it's too late. Podesta was there a week before, 14 and Fish on gun, podesta photos of 14 and fish on his hand. 74th day of the year. 74 page Manifesto. Occult = 74 (black sun occult symbolism). Active shooter =74. What are the odds. There is still a lot to come out about this kid. Be prepared New Zealand. Don't let them take away your rights like Venezuela.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Arlo on March 19, 2019, 10:15:05 AM
Kook ^ :noid
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 19, 2019, 10:38:57 AM
NZ police were having an active shooter training exersize the same day near the shooting.
30 parkland shooting school kids went to ChristChurch last year.
I don't care what you say about me Arlo. Comments like that prove that you are the real kook.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Arlo on March 19, 2019, 10:49:11 AM
I mean dots that don't support the conclusion you so badly want them to. :aok
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: TheBug on March 19, 2019, 11:42:24 AM
You're both idiots.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 19, 2019, 11:43:53 AM
Prove me wrong then you 5 year olds.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: zack1234 on March 19, 2019, 12:06:32 PM
Other year when that bloke killed people in a jewish church it was discovered that he went to two other church's but drove by because they had armed guards outside.
He went to the easy target :old:
Banning the internet and guns is ridiculous and will solve nothing.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: SysError on March 19, 2019, 12:22:55 PM
You need to understand that being a small country we are ALL Kiwis, there is no them and us. The people that died are Kiwis. All religious faiths (and non-religious) here live and work shoulder to shoulder without hatred and as mates. This act is pure evil, pure hatred.
This has wounded us deeply. We are a pretty peaceful people. This piece of scum is not even of our nation. This is not something we wanted. This is a scar on our nation that will never heal.
The Deans Ave Mosque is just around the corner from where I went to school (Christchurch Boys High School). I grew up in Christchurch (don't live there now) so this is pretty emotional for me too.
To all my cuzzies, Kia Kaha.
We have had two of our family members visit and live in NZ.
The first was there for about two years and came back with more mutton and lamb recipes that I thought a normal person should have.
The second went with her Quaker group for a 12 week (I think) nature tour (I guess that is what it was). As a direct result of her 12 weeks in NZ she decide to focus on geology in college and credits her love of NZ for that.
Both of these family members could not stop talking about how great the people and the land was. (One of them brought me back this incredible big block honey comb chocolate bar.)
They are just speechless right now.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Arlo on March 19, 2019, 02:36:57 PM
The problem you've always had, when you go full blown conspiracy, is proving your 'facts' support your conclusion. In other words, if the conspiracy means that much to you (and I suppose it does since you take great pains to share them on the AHBB) then you find a way to prove them. You can't just randomly stack remote coincidences then say 'so there.' But then, I guess most conspiracy-heads aren't into that, from the merit of argument I'v e seen all over the internet.
You want to believe the guff you share so you will. I am merely inclined to call it for what it is and laugh, not provide some sort of online miracle cure to lure you to a saner perspective (so far there's been no indication that you are interested in such).
Good luck with the crusade. :D
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 19, 2019, 04:06:45 PM
The problem you've always had, when you go full blown conspiracy, is proving your 'facts' support your conclusion. In other words, if the conspiracy means that much to you (and I suppose it does since you take great pains to share them on the AHBB) then you find a way to prove them. You can't just randomly stack remote coincidences then say 'so there.' But then, I guess most conspiracy-heads aren't into that, from the merit of argument I'v e seen all over the internet.
You want to believe the guff you share so you will. I am merely inclined to call it for what it is and laugh, not provide some sort of online miracle cure to lure you to a saner perspective (so far there's been no indication that you are interested in such).
Good luck with the crusade. :D
And yet this guy will believe anything the MSM media tells him without batting an eye. Typical of today's Dumb down culture. It must have been a "white supremacists" because thats what MsM told you to think. Don't question anything especially those dang coincidences that interrupt the narrative. We are going to put you in jail now for questioning us.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: SysError on March 19, 2019, 04:17:36 PM
Students perform haka to pay tribute to classmates killed in Christchurch
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: BoilerDown on March 19, 2019, 05:55:21 PM
And yet this guy will believe anything the MSM media tells him without batting an eye. Typical of today's Dumb down culture. It must have been a "white supremacists" because thats what MsM told you to think. Don't question anything especially those dang coincidences that interrupt the narrative. We are going to put you in jail now for questioning us.
Might you two just take this to PMs? You aren't proving your wisdom to anyone, and the thread gets clogged with the collateral argument.
Asking nice.
- oldman
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Arlo on March 19, 2019, 09:44:35 PM
Might you two just take this to PMs? You aren't proving your wisdom to anyone, and the thread gets clogged with the collateral argument.
Asking nice.
- oldman
Great! Another perfect example of a troll who is "just being nice" while shaming my understanding of the events that took place. Instead of attacking the name caller 5 year old who started this. Typical.
I wouldn't post it if I didn't think people should know.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: Vulcan on March 19, 2019, 11:18:25 PM
Annnnnd this has turned into another example of a shooting being used to take away the rights, free media, and speech away from NZ, with no questions asked.
I'm sorry do you live here?
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 20, 2019, 07:49:33 AM
Why are you attacking me over the 5 year old like a bunch of shills? It's your country getting taken over...thought I'd be happy to help. But go on and continue to be sheep for the PM.
Title: Re: christchurch
Post by: zack1234 on March 20, 2019, 07:54:02 AM