General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: caldera on March 15, 2019, 07:24:36 PM
Title: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: caldera on March 15, 2019, 07:24:36 PM
The History Guy on Youtube has 285k subscribers and makes a bunch of military themed content. The one below was sponsored by World of Warships and the first sponsored video on his channel. Posted today and already has 19k views:
A good way to find people who are interested in WWII and by extension, AH. No clue how much $ is involved in sponsoring a video but it would definitely reach the target audience. :old:
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: CptTrips on March 15, 2019, 07:59:02 PM
The History Guy on Youtube has 285k subscribers and makes a bunch of military themed content. The one below was sponsored by World of Warships and the first sponsored video on his channel. Posted today and already has 19k views:
A good way to find people who are interested in WWII and by extension, AH. No clue how much $ is involved in sponsoring a video but it would definitely reach the target audience. :old:
Good idea. A good way to show off the game. I can't imagine it being too expensive. I'd even kick in to a go-fund-me if necessary.
What might make a good topic? "The Hardest Day"? Flying Tigers? Cactus Air Force?
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: puller on March 15, 2019, 08:37:04 PM
Battle of Britain...and a scenario to go along with it...:rock
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: flippz on March 16, 2019, 07:28:35 AM
I mean 1% of that population would be great.
Do some snipe of mission and scenario footage and squads nose arts. Real tasteful like. Think it would be worth a try.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: Max on March 16, 2019, 08:06:20 AM
Bring back HOP :old:
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: zack1234 on March 16, 2019, 09:59:10 AM
I will think about the aformentioned :old:
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: CptTrips on March 16, 2019, 09:59:33 AM
Battle of Britain...and a scenario to go along with it...:rock
Too big of a scope. Most of his videos are under 20 minutes and focus on small or obscure events. Could be a particular battle or pilot that fought in the Battle of Britain.
She is needed now, more than ever. We may be old people, but still know what the internet is.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: The Fugitive on March 16, 2019, 12:17:09 PM
Been pushing social media for years. Even started a page (https://www.facebook.com/FlightCityRadio/) that got a bunch of people watchin. Only put a few hours a week in for it, but it worked. HTC just doesnt want to take the time really work it.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: Lazerr on March 16, 2019, 12:32:30 PM
You can draw them to the water but cant make them drink it. I logged on about 4pm yesterday and noticed the numbers were quite low compared to normal.
Take a guess what map was up!
I personally dont have a problem with the map, but its quite obvious a lot of people do. Ive been playing this for quite awhile, i can find or stir up trouble by several different means. Anything that simple to fix that has a negative effect on the population, should be fixed immediately. (That means remove it from rotation)
But back to the topic, that looks like a great area to look into, and I also would support it through a gofundme type of page.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: 1stpar3 on March 16, 2019, 02:46:15 PM
Been pushing social media for years. Even started a page (https://www.facebook.com/FlightCityRadio/) that got a bunch of people watchin. Only put a few hours a week in for it, but it worked. HTC just doesnt want to take the time really work it.
I enjoyed it, it was a good thing :aok
DutchVII
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: asterix on March 17, 2019, 04:35:51 AM
Been pushing social media for years. Even started a page (https://www.facebook.com/FlightCityRadio/) that got a bunch of people watchin. Only put a few hours a week in for it, but it worked. HTC just doesnt want to take the time really work it.
Doing something in social media is better than doing nothing, but I can`t personally see how a page you created could ever work and how it could attract people other than those already playing the game and wanting it to do good. If a person who had no idea what Aces High is then there is nothing explaining what it is on the page. Then the word "radio". Do the visuals on that page convey the action that is going on, I don`t see much hook in text messages that may seem like coded messages to someone without any idea about what AH3 is. If it was more like Need for Speed Curator type of renegade radio you can listen to and that gives some inside information about what is going on behind the scenes within the community and stirring up some stuff without ranting, hating, complaining, grieving etc then I could see appeal within the existing players. Just my opinion. Time has shown again and again that I have no idea about what other people want so maybe that page did spark some interest and people wanted to find out a bit more.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: SysError on March 17, 2019, 09:39:03 AM
thanks for posting.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: SysError on March 17, 2019, 09:40:29 AM
Doing something in social media is better than doing nothing, but I can`t personally see how a page you created could ever work and how it could attract people other than those already playing the game and wanting it to do good. If a person who had no idea what Aces High is then there is nothing explaining what it is on the page. Then the word "radio". Do the visuals on that page convey the action that is going on, I don`t see much hook in text messages that may seem like coded messages to someone without any idea about what AH3 is. If it was more like Need for Speed Curator type of renegade radio you can listen to and that gives some inside information about what is going on behind the scenes within the community and stirring up some stuff without ranting, hating, complaining, grieving etc then I could see appeal within the existing players. Just my opinion. Time has shown again and again that I have no idea about what other people want so maybe that page did spark some interest and people wanted to find out a bit more.
The idea was to have a "running commentary" of things going on in and around the game. My idea was a full time person at HTC could use this type of page along with twitter, instagram, and others to bring out info on the game.... tips, news, historic info, coming events, airshow info, possible behind the scene stuff, cartoons :D , in game video clips and such about the game. The thing with social media is building a buzz. For this to work and it would it would need a full time person to do nothing but add content posting a number of times across all the boards all day. Then it would also need others adding in comments to help get it rolling as well as keep it rolling. I had a few people add their own "After action reports" to the page I started.
More info, more posts, more sharing brings it to the top of the searches the bots use to bring "liked" content to everyones pages. I did it part time for a few weeks and had 50 people following. Imagine how big it could get with a person dedicated full time to it with help from part time contributors. It would start popping up on pages of anyone likeing anything to do with planes, history, WWII and war.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: Vudu15 on March 18, 2019, 10:15:02 PM
Problems always been no support from the folks in charge.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: Shuffler on March 19, 2019, 03:44:33 AM
Problems always been no support from the folks in charge.
That sometimes happens when you are not an employee. Bestbuy, Walmart, Target, would probably be the same way.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 19, 2019, 04:42:54 PM
Great idea! I know a lot of channels who do advertising for companies before their show starts. I just bought a patriot Flashlight from one of them for a gift. They work! Though I don't really know how well metrically speaking.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: Vudu15 on March 19, 2019, 05:08:04 PM
That sometimes happens when you are not an employee. Bestbuy, Walmart, Target, would probably be the same way.
LOL to compare us to regular customers of big box retailers...that's something else there sir. Did you happen to see the previous posts in this thread? I don't think you'd ever see the conversation happening here on any one of the aboves FB or twitters.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: Shuffler on March 20, 2019, 01:45:01 AM
LOL to compare us to regular customers of big box retailers...that's something else there sir. Did you happen to see the previous posts in this thread? I don't think you'd ever see the conversation happening here on any one of the aboves FB or twitters.
You are right.. many folks would never see FB or twitter because they do not mess with that garbage.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: The Fugitive on March 20, 2019, 09:55:18 AM
You are right.. many folks would never see FB or twitter because they do not mess with that garbage.
You are very much in the minority. Millions upon millions of people are looking at that "garbage " every minute of the day. Creating content and posting is free. Why not use it? Best buy and all of those big box companies do it and they have millions of advertising dollars in their budgets yet they take the time to use it, I wonder why that is?
Just because you and 12 other people dont b other with Facebook doesn't mean it isn't worth the time and effort to promote the game on.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: hitech on March 20, 2019, 10:33:14 AM
You are very much in the minority. Millions upon millions of people are looking at that "garbage " every minute of the day. Creating content and posting is free. Why not use it? Best buy and all of those big box companies do it and they have millions of advertising dollars in their budgets yet they take the time to use it, I wonder why that is?
Just because you and 12 other people dont b other with Facebook doesn't mean it isn't worth the time and effort to promote the game on.
Millions on millions more never mess with that security issue.
Title: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: Ciaphas on March 20, 2019, 01:07:27 PM
explain please. I know I do it all the time and it doesn't cost me a dime.
For a business, simply creating and posting content is not enough. Using FB ads costs money, the amount depends on the amount of people and the duration.
For a "word of mouth" campaign to be successful it relies on users to promote the content on their personal pages.
I ran a bar for quite a while and I spent somewhere in the ball park of 250 bucks a week advertising. The success of these ads is debatable and can be measured in a few hundred dollars a week income and perhaps 20 - 30 profit per week but nowhere near enough to justify the continuation of the ad campaign.
In a social niche game such as this, members of the community need to get involved and push the game via screenshots, videos with or without commentary and talking up the special events like crazy.
AND ALWAYS LINK BACK TO THE HITECHCREATIONS HOME PAGE!
Does no good if people have no idea where to get the game or to do more research on it.
:salute
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Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: ACE on March 20, 2019, 01:31:40 PM
For a business, simply creating and posting content is not enough. Using FB ads costs money, the amount depends on the amount of people and the duration.
For a "word of mouth" campaign to be successful it relies on users to promote the content on their personal pages.
I ran a bar for quite a while and I spent somewhere in the ball park of 250 bucks a week advertising. The success of these ads is debatable and can be measured in a few hundred dollars a week income and perhaps 20 - 30 profit per week but nowhere near enough to justify the continuation of the ad campaign.
In a social niche game such as this, members of the community need to get involved and push the game via screenshots, videos with or without commentary and talking up the special events like crazy.
AND ALWAYS LINK BACK TO THE HITECHCREATIONS HOME PAGE!
Does no good if people have no idea where to get the game or to do more research on it.
:salute
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We used advertising as well for our local restaurant/cafe. For job postings and weekly menus etc. it doesn't really work. We have Facebook as well. Advertise to about 4,000 people everyday. Maybe only 15 people actually click the link. I'm a firm believer that the reason big box companies use advertising is so they can sink profits to avoid taxes. It's all a money game at the top. Just because I see a monster ad on TV doesn't make me wanna go buy a monster. I'm not saying it's 100% useless to advertise. It's just not as effective as people who haven't done it think it is.
Edit: Advertising is usually very expensive and you almost never get your ROI.
Title: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: Ciaphas on March 20, 2019, 01:46:40 PM
Agreed, the best advertising a company has is by word of mouth. With the way social networking has managed to creep in to every aspect of life, it should be, in theory, quite easy to advertise AH from our own accounts. That whole tell two, those two tell two and so on and so forth system.
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Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: Spikes on March 20, 2019, 03:10:24 PM
Social media advertising is great. It is free unless you want to pay for those promotional things. I'm sure they're somewhat useful.
I think that to pull in the younger crowd a good social media presence is a must. For the same reason that having an active subreddit is a must...those sites are what they flock to. I'm on reddit every day and follow certain communities, and always get the latest news/info/discussions that pop up.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: The Fugitive on March 20, 2019, 04:01:04 PM
For a business, simply creating and posting content is not enough. Using FB ads costs money, the amount depends on the amount of people and the duration.
For a "word of mouth" campaign to be successful it relies on users to promote the content on their personal pages.
I ran a bar for quite a while and I spent somewhere in the ball park of 250 bucks a week advertising. The success of these ads is debatable and can be measured in a few hundred dollars a week income and perhaps 20 - 30 profit per week but nowhere near enough to justify the continuation of the ad campaign.
In a social niche game such as this, members of the community need to get involved and push the game via screenshots, videos with or without commentary and talking up the special events like crazy.
AND ALWAYS LINK BACK TO THE HITECHCREATIONS HOME PAGE!
Does no good if people have no idea where to get the game or to do more research on it.
:salute
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Correct, HTC should have a person pushing info 10-12 times a day through as many media accounts as they can. Those of us who do bother with social media can help by adding things we find/see/enjoy. Sharing across media will generate traffic and start pushing info to new people. Like new maps and skins this IS something players can help with.
Social media advertising is great. It is free unless you want to pay for those promotional things. I'm sure they're somewhat useful.
I think that to pull in the younger crowd a good social media presence is a must. For the same reason that having an active subreddit is a must...those sites are what they flock to. I'm on reddit every day and follow certain communities, and always get the latest news/info/discussions that pop up.
Exactly! The world of gaming revolves around social media. Find a way to keep it popping and it will get picked up.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: Shuffler on March 20, 2019, 04:20:01 PM
I get a bestbuy ad weekly that I quote looking at because it is always the same. Same with office supply stores. Same old same old.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: flippz on March 20, 2019, 04:47:58 PM
You are right.. many folks would never see FB or twitter because they do not mess with that garbage.
Maybe were looking for a newer crowd to play? That’s what the game needs is an injection of new “younger” blood. The same ol same ol players that’s been here for 20plus years are stale. No disrespect to them but new blood is what we need and social media is the avenue to it.
I own a small business and maybe in the goods and food industry you don’t see a large return. In the towing industry we saw a huge return. So much so that I quit advertising with them because it was 24/7 pushing customers my way to the point I couldn’t handle the influx of new customers. I guess it depends on the cost and return you want to see.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: Wiley on March 20, 2019, 04:55:01 PM
Maybe were looking for a newer crowd to play? That’s what the game needs is an injection of new “younger” blood. The same ol same ol players that’s been here for 20plus years are stale. No disrespect to them but new blood is what we need and social media is the avenue to it.
Well, that and completely changing the game.
Wiley.
Title: Re: maybe AH can sponsor a video
Post by: FLS on March 20, 2019, 06:29:50 PM
A non-paid internship still doesn't offset the cost of money spent (ads) and profit (return - cost of ads).
Sure, you could run a passive post campaign that will only reach a very small group. To reach the masses, unfortunately, you will have to pay for promotion.