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Title: Electric Beaver
Post by: pembquist on April 14, 2019, 12:22:46 PM
I didn't realize that the technology had gotten this far https://www.harbourair.com/harbour-air-and-magnix-partner-to-build-worlds-first-all-electric-airline/ (https://www.harbourair.com/harbour-air-and-magnix-partner-to-build-worlds-first-all-electric-airline/)

I have said if there were a reasonably priced electric trainer for Sunday flying I would sign up.
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: Devil 505 on April 14, 2019, 12:33:35 PM
Based on the thread title, I was expecting something very, very, different.  :devil
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: pembquist on April 14, 2019, 03:17:26 PM
yeah, it seems like these days everything is a euphemism even "Sunday flying"
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: Shuffler on April 14, 2019, 03:49:30 PM
What false advertisement. They are not zero carbon. So moronic.
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: pembquist on April 14, 2019, 04:36:03 PM
I didn't see the part about zero carbon. I just think it would be a nice alternative to light piston, no oil or gasoline and fewer parts to break. I do wonder what happens when a large battery back hits the ground in a survivable crash.
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: Meatwad on April 14, 2019, 09:15:25 PM
What a letdown, I was expecting the "other" kind of electric beaver

Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: Shuffler on April 14, 2019, 09:50:06 PM
I didn't see the part about zero carbon. I just think it would be a nice alternative to light piston, no oil or gasoline and fewer parts to break. I do wonder what happens when a large battery back hits the ground in a survivable crash.

In the linked story...

Harbour Air first demonstrated its commitment to sustainability by becoming the first fully carbon-neutral airline in North America in 2007, through the purchase of carbon offsets,” said Greg McDougall, founder and CEO of Harbour Air Seaplanes
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: perdue3 on April 14, 2019, 10:23:33 PM
I thought this would be about the Eflite, Flyzone, or the GWS DHC-2. My head is not in the gutter like some others.
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: pembquist on April 15, 2019, 12:03:29 AM
What a letdown, I was expecting the "other" kind of electric beaver
I'm thinking the "other" kind of electric beaver might be quite painful.
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: 1stpar3 on April 15, 2019, 01:41:36 AM
Based on the thread title, I was expecting something very, very, different.  :devil
:aok What is wrong with us!? I knew I liked you for a reason!  :rofl
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: 1stpar3 on April 15, 2019, 01:43:41 AM
What a letdown, I was expecting the "other" kind of electric beaver
:aok Hopefully you are talking about the "Toothless" kind :rofl
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: save on April 16, 2019, 05:20:07 AM
Extreme clickbait headline  :D
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: DaveBB on April 18, 2019, 08:16:43 AM
How long do lithium ion batteries really last? I'm not talking flight time, I'm talking continual use.  It wasn't too long ago that after the first year, they lost half of their capacity.  Has a dramatic change in longevity occurred?
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: bustr on April 18, 2019, 12:36:49 PM
It's not about the batteries but, about a zero carbon initiative Vancouver recently dropped due to much of their revenue coming from tourism run by hydrocarbon based fuel tour companies. It's cheaper per ton to run tour ships on good old fashioned fuel becasue nothing else can move tons over water like hydrocarbons. Read the company bio for the engine and you will see they moved from Australia to Redmond and targeted Vancouver becasue of the zero carbon initiative. Which the Mayor who is a global warming worshiper had to concede it would severely impact the tourist industry, probably her future as the mayor. Carbon offsets is the give away.
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: Chalenge on April 18, 2019, 04:57:50 PM
Pipe dream. Remember max takeoff weight versus max landing weight? That's going to cut into max useful load since the batteries will not change mass. LiPo is obviously a terrible idea, so . . . they're HOPING for a new solution to come through investments into research.
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: Mister Fork on April 18, 2019, 05:38:27 PM
The good news is that they do have basically the weight of the fuel and hydraulics and engine to work with on a comparable system that can hold a decent amount of amperage charge  coupled with a electric airplane engine.  And being a bigger plane and a relatively short distance flight wise, I think it is quite doable. The flying time is around 30 to 40 minutes.
Title: Re: Electric Beaver
Post by: Busher on April 18, 2019, 06:05:41 PM
You guys seem to forget that salmon is not the only thing smoked in Vancouver B.C.