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Title: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Puma44 on June 02, 2019, 05:11:20 PM
The First Phantom AIM-7F Launched in PACAF



During an my assignment to the 36 TFS Fantastic Flying Fiends at Oasan AB, ROK, we deployed to Clark AB in the Philippines for a WSEP (Weapons System Evaluation Program) live weapons fire exercise.   The majority of our shots would be with the AIM-9P infrared missile.   As luck would have it, our squadron was there at the right time to do the first live fire evaluation of the AIM-7F radar guided missile before it was deployed to PACAF F-4 units.  My trusty backseater “Hooter” and I were on the schedule of the day for the first AIM-7F.  The boss said it would be a short straw draw to see who got to take the first one out.  When my turn came, I pulled the short straw out of the boss’s hand.

Then it started. Way more than enough “adult guidance” on all the normal preflight, inflight, and post flight procedures with firing a live missile.  Since we practiced this stuff every single day we flew at home base, it was a tad bit of overkill.  But, WSEP guys were going to make sure we didn’t screw this up.  So, we had multiple guys monitoring and watching over us during the briefings and preflight.  We were even going to have a WSEP crew flying one of our squadron jets to chase and observe our intercept and shot.

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Hooter and suited up in life support and stepped to the jet for preflight.  We split up to do our normal assigned preflight checks.  One of mine was the walk around, including weapons inspection.  When I came to the shiny new AIM-7F mounted in our left rear missile position, I paused for a “this is going to be so cool” moment.  So, I checked that it was secure in its partially submerged position in the mount, checked the electrical umbilical was secure, and that the four steering fins were securely engaged.  All this required was to grasp the fin and wiggle it, making sure it didn’t free swivel.  I checked the vertical fin.  It was normal to have some small movement as long as it didn’t swing from side to side.  This one was good.  Next, I checked the horizontal fins.  Because they were nearly flush with the belly of the jet, my paw couldn’t get quite the same grip on them.  But, they had the “normal” wiggle as far as I could check. 

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Moving on with the rest of the preflight of the jet, we climbed in and got ready bring the J-79s to life.  Of course we had an entire tree full of owls watching us up to this point.  So, we were relieved to get started up and taxi out to the active runway with our WSEP chase crew close behind.  We taxied into EOR (end of runway) for final checks before takeoff.  Of course, there were more owls there, in addition to our normal crew chief compliment to check us over.

Cleared for takeoff, we line up our two ship, stroke the burners, perform a two ship formation takeoff, and head out to the live fire area over the ocean.  We checked into the are with GCI and setup for the intercept against a Firebee drone.  We were at 2,000’ above the ocean and the Firbee would be at 1,000’. 

Since the “F” was brand new, the WSEP guys wanted to explore the outside edges of its advertised performance envelope.  The Phantom had a set of red “SHOOT” lights on the front cockpit canopy bow to give the pilot additional visual clues when the WSO (backseater) had a radar lock on the target and its was within effective firing range of the AIM-7 Sparrow.  In daily ops we would sweeten the shot based on historical AIM-7 performance to enhance the PK (percentage kill) of the missile.  The WSEP guys instructed us to launch the “F” as soon as the SHOOT lights flashed so the extreme edges of the envelope could be explored.

GCI set us up about 60 miles out for our planned look down face shot against the drone.  We received clearance to live fire. So, I selected “MISSLES” on my armament panel and armed it.  We were aimed straight at it for a nice shot in the snot locker.  As we got closer, our radar started “picketing”, basically a stuttering vertical line display that was absolutely useless.  Hooter was working furiously to get it resolved, to include tuning the bottom of the radar console with his boot, as we rapidly got closer.  Our combined closure rate with the drone was nearly a 1,000 knots.  Hooter is now cursing profusely at the radar because it’s about to screw up our shot.  The last thing we wanted to do was haul the shiny new AIM-7F back to Clark.

While this was going on, I was searching intently for this little international orange bastage. 

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Ah ha!  There it is coming down the right side about 10 degrees off the nose.  I called a tally ho and started a hard, high G right turn to chase it down.  As we rolled out, Hooter announced that the radar was back in the game and he was locking on.  He called “LOCKED”, the “SHOOT” lights flashed immediately, and I squeezed the trigger.  We felt it release, and heard the freight train like SWOOSH but, it was no where to be seen.  It should be out in front of us with a contrail chasing down the Firebee. We are looking all over for it and neither of use could get a visual.  Our chase Phantom was on the right side about 45 degrees back.  Finally, there it is on our left side in a big, lazy barrel roll, gradually working its way to the drone.  As the barrel roll degrades the misssle’s energy state it’s flight path transitions into an every decreasingly small corkscrew, and then the missile motor expends it’s fuel.  Out in front of us is a small line of cumulo nimbus clouds that the missile is descending toward and behind.  I stroke the burners to the front stop and start chasing it down.  As we crossed the line of clouds, the missile, now completely out of energy, is going straight down, and impacts the water on a direct line about a hundred yards short of two Philippinos in a bonka boat.

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On the way back to Clark, Hooter and I go over everything in detail to make sure we hadn’t missed anything.  We’d done it all correctly.  Of course when we got back, it would be guilty until proven innocent.  The post flight debrief was very extensive.    The chase guys had nothing because we had verbalized all the relaunch checklist over the radio (way out of normal ops).  As luck would have it, the missile had a telemetry package mounted on it.  It took a couple of hours for the WSEP guys to analyze the data.  When they did, it was determined the the missile’s horizontal fins when not correctly attached to the missile, causing them to fully swivel with the airflow.   There was no way to determine that because of the physical lack of space to wiggle the horizontal fin enough.  Strike one for the missile load crew.

The debrief with our chase crew was revealing.   When I launched the “F”, it dropped and ignited normally but, started a hard fight turn in their direction.  They almost broke hard right to avoid it except, it started the barrel roll over the top and to the rear of us.  As it rolled down and back up, that was where we picked up the visual for the rest of the adventure.
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Arlo on June 02, 2019, 06:28:33 PM
Meanwhile, the guys in the boat look at each other and one says, 'Ano ang ginawa namin' (what'd we do)?
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Mister Fork on June 02, 2019, 06:48:11 PM
 :rofl


Reminds me of when I taught military boot camp and we when it came to the hand grenades training part...there's always one...
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: 1stpar3 on June 02, 2019, 07:34:03 PM
OOPS! You have the BEST stories EVER :rock
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Oldman731 on June 02, 2019, 07:40:23 PM
OOPS! You have the BEST stories EVER


And this was one of the best of the best.

- oldman
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Puma44 on June 02, 2019, 10:01:12 PM
Thanks gents!  Glad you enjoy them. Apologies for the misspellings and grammar errors.  I’m recovering from a week of food poisoning.  Concentration must not be quite dialed in.
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Arlo on June 02, 2019, 11:13:48 PM
Food poisoning? Not good. What restaurant do we need to avoid/boycott?
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Puma44 on June 03, 2019, 12:07:18 AM
Three high school graduation parties.  Who’d a thought?
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Arlo on June 03, 2019, 01:54:30 AM
Three high school graduation parties.  Who’d a thought?

Well then, good vibes your way, instead.
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Toad on June 03, 2019, 08:16:04 AM
Great Story, Puma!
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Mister Fork on June 03, 2019, 10:05:10 AM
Thanks gents!  Glad you enjoy them. Apologies for the misspellings and grammar errors.  I’m recovering from a week of food poisoning.  Concentration must not be quite dialed in.
Three?  We're assuming it's from the same college and that you're not a vampire right?...thought i would explain a couple things... :D

Still giggling at the visualization of the fishing boat lads when that missile plowed into the water right in front of them.  Wondered if they needed to hop in the water shortly after to clean out their trousers.  :rofl
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Puma44 on June 03, 2019, 11:00:58 AM
Great Story, Puma!

Thanks Toad!
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Puma44 on June 03, 2019, 11:05:38 AM
Three?  We're assuming it's from the same college and that you're not a vampire right?...thought i would explain a couple things... :D

Still giggling at the visualization of the fishing boat lads when that missile plowed into the water right in front of them.  Wondered if they needed to hop in the water shortly after to clean out their trousers.  :rofl

Yeah, can’t even imagine what they were thinking.  Especially, since we may have already flown over them once before doing the 180 to chase the drone down. That had the potential of looking pretty confusing, in addition to us trying to spear them with the AIM-7F.
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Easyscor on June 03, 2019, 02:08:11 PM
I've been hoping you had more of these. I've enjoyed them all!

 :cheers:
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Puma44 on June 03, 2019, 04:28:50 PM
Thank you Easy!
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: bustr on June 03, 2019, 05:48:45 PM
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Strike one for the missile load crew.

Is there any story to what happened with these gents after the cause was discovered?
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Puma44 on June 03, 2019, 06:26:25 PM
Is there any story to what happened with these gents after the cause was discovered?

We never heard anything but, no doubt there was some serious retraining and supervision the next time they put one together and loaded it.
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Shuffler on June 03, 2019, 07:40:29 PM
Great read. LOL
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Busher on June 03, 2019, 08:06:38 PM
That really was great!

Were you assigned to wash two Philippinos' underwear though?
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Shuffler on June 03, 2019, 08:44:06 PM
That really was great!

Were you assigned to wash two Philippinos' underwear though?

Wait.... isn't that the backseater's job?
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Oldman731 on June 03, 2019, 08:53:15 PM
We never heard anything but, no doubt there was some serious retraining and supervision the next time they put one together and loaded it.


I thought you said you were in the Air Force?

Those people were promoted.  They recently retired as bird colonels in charge of munitions.

- oldman
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Busher on June 03, 2019, 09:09:03 PM
Wait.... isn't that the backseater's job?

It's a fine line between delegation and passing the buck ;)
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Puma44 on June 03, 2019, 09:46:24 PM
That really was great!

Were you assigned to wash two Philippinos' underwear though?

They were miles off shore in the ocean.  Surely, they washed their own skivvies. If, they had any on.
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Puma44 on June 03, 2019, 09:47:51 PM

I thought you said you were in the Air Force?

Those people were promoted.  They recently retired as bird colonels in charge of munitions.

- oldman

Hooter and I didn't care who got in trouble, as long as it wasn't us.  And yes, they more than likely got promoted to a higher level where they couldn’t screw that up again.  Something else, yes.  But, not that.
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Shifty on June 03, 2019, 11:05:16 PM
Great story, loved the part about guilty until proven innocent.  :rofl
That seems to be the rule when it comes to the Air Force when one
of their toys gets broken.
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Puma44 on June 03, 2019, 11:37:34 PM
Great story, loved the part about guilty until proven innocent.  :rofl
That seems to be the rule when it comes to the Air Force when one
of their toys gets broken.


Yep!  It’s always “Who touched it last?”   :bolt:
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Ciaphas on June 04, 2019, 12:11:38 PM
Yep!  It’s always “Who touched it last?”   :bolt:

Always Head Hunting. Heaven forbid it be mechanical error or material deficiency.


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Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Puma44 on June 04, 2019, 12:26:01 PM
Always Head Hunting. Heaven forbid it be mechanical error or material deficiency.


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Indeed.  In this case, it was a simple lack of attention to detail. 
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: Shuffler on June 04, 2019, 04:42:07 PM
Indeed.  In this case, it was a simple lack of attention to detail.

Not IDIOT PROOF enough   :D
Title: Re: It’s not another 737 down, but.....
Post by: bustr on June 05, 2019, 12:50:25 PM
"For Want of a Nail" the castle fell and the war was lost.