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Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: Rendar on June 27, 2000, 10:39:00 PM
Drool... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Rendar
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: Hans on June 28, 2000, 02:38:00 AM
Isn't that the truth.

Imagine, flying along ans seeing a Lancaster.  You close in and dive below him to pull up and hit his belly where he cannot shoot back.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Thats the price your going to pay for having x3 the bombload of a B17.

Hans.

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Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: Gorf on June 28, 2000, 07:26:00 AM
Now imagine team work in wich 1 Lancaster escorted by 5 SPits and Typhoons Suppressing all fighter escort as the Lancaster nukes the hole field and a C47 sneaks in and takes the base...(snort...hugh)..Sigh  then I woke up..Corporation in the AH arena....what a nice dream.. hehehehe

Gorf  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: miko2d on June 28, 2000, 09:31:00 AM
 Wouldn't 6 B-17 in a tight box be safer and more efficient then a single Lancaster with 5 escorts?
 B-17 had abysmal payload, but al least it could deliver it on target.
miko--
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: Pongo on June 28, 2000, 10:10:00 AM
Maybe they will make it so that it is iconless at night...
We intercepted 6 buffs in darkness last night and it was real hard to get them in range for an icon to show up. And that was with 8k icons...
Give it a window load out that spoofs the game radar?
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: SpyHawk on June 28, 2000, 11:17:00 AM
With that pathetic defensive loadout (in terms of callibre and coverage) the RAF was smart to switch to the night blitz.
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: miko2d on June 28, 2000, 11:25:00 AM
 Pongo, if you get rid of the icons for bombers at night, why don't you get rid of the GPS-based map and the target visibility at the same time.

 I red the analysis and it said that more then half of the ordnance did not even hit within 50 miles of the target during those nighttime bombings.
 There were good only for morale (we are doing something...) and on large enemy cities  illuminated by resistance operatives or low-level fighers dropping incendiary.

 I understand the desire to have everything. Just remember, how many times did you see a divebomber in the WB Main Arena? What about much demanded Mossie after the first two weeks? Why produce a plane nobody is going to fly after the novelty wears off? There are more items on the list I would give priority before the Lancaster.

Just my $0.02

miko--
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: SpyHawk on June 28, 2000, 12:01:00 PM
Hmm....iconless night....perhaps turn on icons for Night Fighters with radar? Much fun shooting the crap out of Lancs with a Ju88 Nachtjeager. MUAAHAHAHAHA
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: Karnak on June 28, 2000, 12:46:00 PM
I heard that this was going to be a late war Lanc with 50 cals.

Sisu
-Karnak
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: Nashwan on June 28, 2000, 01:11:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by miko2d:
Pongo, if you get rid of the icons for bombers at night, why don't you get rid of the GPS-based map and the target visibility at the same time.
Can we have the ground mapping radar and "Gee" nav aids that gave a target fix accurate to 2 miles? How about "Oboe" that was accurate to 300 yards at 300 miles range? That was used by almost all pathfinder aircraft later in the war.
None of this would work without icons off and flares and searchlights for visibility.
 
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Originally posted by miko2d:
 I red the analysis and it said that more then half of the ordnance did not even hit within 50 miles of the target during those nighttime bombings.
 There were good only for morale (we are doing something...) and on large enemy cities  illuminated by resistance operatives or low-level fighers dropping incendiary.
The accuracy after the 1942 introduction of Gee was sufficient to attack large targets like cities with ease. Fighters wern't used as pathfinders, it was a combination of 4 engined heavies and Mosquitos. Later in the war, accuracy of night attacks was similar to the USAAF daylight raids. Pinpoint targets in France were often attacked and the collateral damage was usually minimal.


Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: wolf37 on June 28, 2000, 04:48:00 PM
hiya all:

well the plane is not here yet, lets not start complaining about it now, wait till it gets here and then whine all you want.

keep up the good work HTC

wolf37
C.O.
THUNDERBIRDS

p.s.
no matter what, if a THUNDERBIRD is the pilot, attacking fighters will be toast.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: Jigster on June 28, 2000, 08:25:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Karnak:
I heard that this was going to be a late war Lanc with 50 cals.

Sisu
-Karnak


If it is.... I sure hope it doesn't have the quad gun turrents.

- Jig
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: brendo on June 28, 2000, 09:15:00 PM
Many LANCs had their tail turret replaced with twin .50s as a non-standard field modification.

They were built with quad .303 tail guns which were useless against armoured fighters.

In actual operation, the gunners were often told NOT to fire. This was becasue tracer or gunfire gave away their position to enemy nightfighters.

The exception was against enemy searchlights which were a worse danger if they bracketed the aircraft.
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: iculus on June 28, 2000, 09:46:00 PM
It would be nice if we get the grand slam:

18,000(?)lbs. of bomb.   [Note Singular (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)]

IC
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: Rendar on June 28, 2000, 10:25:00 PM
And remember, the Lancasters could only go up to 24,000 feet. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)  They will be within easy reach of Fw-190s, and flak.

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Rendar
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: Karnak on June 28, 2000, 10:45:00 PM
Grandslam bombs were 22,000lbs, but required a Lancaster Special to carry it.  The normal Lancaster could carry the Tall Boy which was 11,000lbs and likewise would break the sound barrier on the way down (I've seen footage of what the Tall Boys could do to fortifications, and it ain't pretty).

I understand that HTC has stated that the largest single bomb that will be available in AH will be 4,000lbs.  The standard Lancaster payload was made of these and additional smaller bombs.

Sisu
-Karnak
Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: iculus on June 29, 2000, 05:21:00 PM
Thanks Karnak!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

I remember a line from a pilot who flew with one. After release, the wingtips sprung downwards from the release of the load.

IC

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Title: Lancaster In 1.04!!!
Post by: Topcat on June 30, 2000, 05:50:00 AM
This is the plane that will make me switch from WB to AH  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Regards

TC