Post by: Ciaphas on September 11, 2019, 08:26:58 PM
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Post by: perdue3 on September 11, 2019, 08:42:09 PM
Post by: Ciaphas on September 11, 2019, 08:45:02 PM
Looks like I need to book a longer tour haha
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Post by: Shuffler on September 11, 2019, 08:54:04 PM
Post by: Ciaphas on September 11, 2019, 09:00:25 PM
I had over 90,000 the other night in B 29s.
That's awesome! When I got my first 70k+ run I was grinning for about an hour. Sadly on the third run, my 29's got smashed by a 410. That long gun on it is insane.
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Post by: The Fugitive on September 11, 2019, 09:09:27 PM
Post by: Ciaphas on September 11, 2019, 09:11:09 PM
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Post by: Ciaphas on September 11, 2019, 09:16:34 PM
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/478716916 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/478716916)
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Post by: The Fugitive on September 11, 2019, 09:38:15 PM
here is one of the runs. Starts at 21:08 roughly
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/478716916 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/478716916)
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I only watched the first drop.....
Your approach was good, but a bit left of center. Speed was off a bit as well, and you dropped too many bombs.
Going down the center of the town gives your wing buffs a good hit, count on the "splash" damage.
Speed, calibrate for ten seconds a couple minutes from drop. The adjust speed with throttle to match calibrated speed to set it dead on.
Drop only 4 bombs on that angle. The first bomb you dropped is a bit of a waste because the splash damage on those smaller buildings will not get you the same number of buildings you could get in the areas that have the denser areas.
Post by: LNG15 on September 11, 2019, 09:44:36 PM
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Post by: toddbobe on September 11, 2019, 10:15:04 PM
Is it possible to score 100k damage in a single bomber sortie? I've scored 63k and 75k but I can't seem to get any higher.
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You used to be able to do it in AH2
Post by: Shuffler on September 11, 2019, 10:18:51 PM
I'm thinking with fugitives advice I can spread my tour to 10 towns and pull off over 100k. Gonna have to bring 3 cans of fuel but that shouldn't be a problem.
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The 29 has plenty of fuel for the job.
Post by: Ciaphas on September 11, 2019, 10:22:25 PM
The 29 has plenty of fuel for the job.
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Post by: guncrasher on September 11, 2019, 10:30:32 PM
but yes i got 60+ in Lancaster once.
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Post by: Ciaphas on September 11, 2019, 10:32:47 PM
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Post by: Arlo on September 13, 2019, 02:49:41 PM
Drones don't join you after rearm, do they?
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Nope. They go to the O/E clubs.
Post by: Ciaphas on September 13, 2019, 03:08:20 PM
Nope. They go to the O/E clubs.
figures haha
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Post by: caldera on September 13, 2019, 04:28:27 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqDFCr6m/leet-damage.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Post by: Ciaphas on September 13, 2019, 05:31:16 PM
This is as close to 100k as I ever got:
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Post by: atlau on September 13, 2019, 05:57:40 PM
Post by: Arlo on September 13, 2019, 07:52:11 PM
Bombing town centers is usually counterproductive for your teammates tho
Damage to a town does contribute to captures (even if more damage is required). 'Counterproductive' mindset (when nobody is griefing) generally comes from players that want to control what other players are doing to have fun.
Post by: Lusche on September 13, 2019, 09:02:30 PM
Damage to a town does contribute to captures (even if more damage is required).
Unless a bombing of a town a certain time before the main operation begins leads to the town buildings being down out of sync.
But with some attention on part of the town milker, that can be avoided. Just don't bomb frontline towns that are possibly coming under attack not immediatly, but in the not so far future (exact time frames depend on current enemy downtimes governed by their city).
For the original question, I don't think it's possible without rearming. Personally, my best displayed damage was only at 59,278 in a 12x1k town milk run in 2013. (Score damage points are a different matter, but those two values are only very loosely connected anyway).
Post by: Ciaphas on September 13, 2019, 09:07:49 PM
On the one off sortie that I do go on a milk run during more populated times, I try to time at least one of the drops on a base that is being engaged and I announce it over channel when I am about 10 minutes out, so the drop isn't in vain.
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Post by: atlau on September 14, 2019, 12:16:45 AM
Unless a bombing of a town a certain time before the main operation begins leads to the town buildings being down out of sync.
But with some attention on part of the town milker, that can be avoided. Just don't bomb frontline towns that are possibly coming under attack not immediatly, but in the not so far future (exact time frames depend on current enemy downtimes governed by their city).
For the original question, I don't think it's possible without rearming. Personally, my best displayed damage was only at 59,278 in a 12x1k town milk run in 2013. (Score damage points are a different matter, but those two values are only very loosely connected anyway).
Thatd what I was referring to. Have definitely seen captures go bad when a town center pops at in inopportune moment.
Kinda like killing individual vase VHs. Does more harm than good.
Post by: Ciaphas on September 14, 2019, 12:18:23 AM
Thatd what I was referring to. Have definitely seen captures go bad when a town center pops at in inopportune moment.
Kinda like killing individual vase VHs. Does more harm than good.
There is nothing worse than a town that is out of sync, especially when you are in a C-47 :rofl
Post by: guncrasher on September 14, 2019, 01:27:49 AM
There is nothing worse than a town that is out of sync, especially when you are in a C-47 :rofl
saw a new guy bring in a c47 and he landed it, near town. town was down except for 1 single tank and 5 friendly tanks. that t34 killed all 5 tanks. I was covering town only 2 guys upped and me and this other guy kept them away. called for help and at least 10 guys upped in tanks. nobody else came in a plane. so we left, goon got killed, all the tanks got bombed, I didnt come back, went somewhere else.
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Post by: Slate on September 14, 2019, 09:36:38 AM
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Post by: Lusche on September 14, 2019, 12:30:09 PM
haha, after I got shot down last weekend I have to grind perks to get B-29's again.
The two most efficient ways:
a) Attack (undamaged) task groups in OBJ 20+ bombers (fun).
a) Resupply towns and factories (boring)
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Post by: Ciaphas on September 14, 2019, 02:45:28 PM
The two most efficient ways:
a) Attack (undamaged) task groups in OBJ 20+ bombers (fun).
a) Resupply towns and factories (boring)
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time to dust off some bombers!
Post by: Shuffler on September 15, 2019, 05:17:31 PM
Post by: Ciaphas on September 15, 2019, 05:48:16 PM
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Post by: Lusche on September 16, 2019, 08:10:19 AM
I made a run earlier today. I landed 117,545.
Displayed damage? I'm very curious now. What was your loadout and what did you bomb?
Post by: Bruv119 on September 16, 2019, 08:50:03 AM
Post by: Shuffler on September 16, 2019, 09:11:55 AM
Displayed damage? I'm very curious now. What was your loadout and what did you bomb?
500 pounders and drop 2 on every town.
It would have been higher but I did not realize that two of the towns were partially down. One of those towns I only killed 2 buildings.
Post by: Lusche on September 16, 2019, 11:00:09 AM
500 pounders and drop 2 on every town.
It would have been higher but I did not realize that two of the towns were partially down. One of those towns I only killed 2 buildings.
How many 500 lbs bombs (you didn't mention your plane)?
Post by: 1ijac on September 16, 2019, 12:32:58 PM
Cheers, One-eye
Post by: Shuffler on September 16, 2019, 12:57:34 PM
How many 500 lbs bombs (you didn't mention your plane)?
We have been talking about B-29. So it was 40 x 500.
Post by: Ciaphas on September 16, 2019, 02:54:43 PM
We have been talking about B-29. So it was 40 x 500.
That's 20 towns, talk about a country wide tour.
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Post by: Lusche on September 16, 2019, 03:00:10 PM
We have been talking about B-29. So it was 40 x 500.
Thank you.
Yes that makes sense.
I compared this with my own numbers. While I never did a 40x500 town busting milkrun, I did one with 12x1k (unlike points for score, bomb size does not influence landed damage display), dropping 11 of them on 11 towns for 59.278 points of landed damage, so ~5400 per town center. You made ~6500 per center. That's 20% more, which could be explained by the better distribution of damage over a larger area dropping 2x500 instead of 1x1,000 lb
Post by: Shuffler on September 16, 2019, 04:24:15 PM
Thank you.
Yes that makes sense.
I compared this with my own numbers. While I never did a 40x500 town busting milkrun, I did one with 12x1k (unlike points for score, bomb size does not influence landed damage display), dropping 11 of them on 11 towns for 59.278 points of landed damage, so ~5400 per town center. You made ~6500 per center. That's 20% more, which could be explained by the better distribution of damage over a larger area dropping 2x500 instead of 1x1,000 lb
I know you like tabulating numbers. Take into account that 2 towns were almost down when I hit them. Otherwise I would have had quite a bit more damage.
I had time while doing other things so I decided to make that run. At 20k I start my run. After each drop I climb a bit. By my last 10 drops I am at 30k. At that level it is important to spot the large lake in town. It is the best way to make out tow at those distances.
Post by: icepac on September 17, 2019, 08:31:05 AM
I did rearm once or twice.
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Post by: puller on September 17, 2019, 12:47:28 PM
This was a single plane sortie and I found myself at 25k with a couple of pursuers who I attacked and then I found a bomber formation on the way home.
I did rearm once or twice.
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Have you still rage quit??? :bolt:
Post by: icepac on September 18, 2019, 09:19:04 AM
I just don't like how stealth and strategy as used in the war has been slowly excised from the sim.
Post by: Mister Fork on September 18, 2019, 10:51:38 AM
No rage quitting.Actually, every side had an air space controller. If a patrol spotted an unknown/enemy fighter or formation, it was radioed back to HQ and then broadcast out to every pilot on the command channel.
I just don't like how stealth and strategy as used in the war has been slowly excised from the sim.
So if you think the current radar settings are bogus because it's showing you on radar when you're within range, think again. While WWII pilots didn't have a real-life updating map with icons, a quick radio call to the lady plotters at the operations room from your cockpit could tell you EXACTLY what was reported and where and when. CAP has been around since WWI - and still, today who's sole purpose is to report on unknown contacts, make ID intercepts and engage. And it's the CAP + Radar that feeds into the operations rooms who update their plotter maps as shown below. Not to mention other pilots who also announce contacts on the command channel. It's just as real as our icon map - the only difference is that you don't have time to plot out on your map what is where cause you know, you're flying a machine. With complicated components. And controls. And measuring your fuel consumption. And maintaining formation. And scanning for enemy fighters/bombers. And make sure you didn't get yourself in thick into bad weather. With airplanes that were notorious for breaking down or having issues. So we need to forgive the simple icon map Hitech gave us and focus on the fact it allows us to have more fun than the labour of flying a 1940's airplane. :D
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/The_Operations_Room_at_RAF_Fighter_Command%27s_No._10_Group_Headquarters%2C_Rudloe_Manor_%28RAF_Box%29%2C_Wiltshire%2C_showing_WAAF_plotters_and_duty_officers_at_work%2C_1943._CH11887.jpg/1280px-thumbnail.jpg)
The real-life icon map in WWII.
Post by: Ciaphas on September 18, 2019, 03:57:49 PM
Actually, every side had an air space controller. If a patrol spotted an unknown/enemy fighter or formation, it was radioed back to HQ and then broadcast out to every pilot on the command channel.
So if you think the current radar settings are bogus because it's showing you on radar when you're within range, think again. While WWII pilots didn't have a real-life updating map with icons, a quick radio call to the lady plotters at the operations room from your cockpit could tell you EXACTLY what was reported and where and when. CAP has been around since WWI - and still, today who's sole purpose is to report on unknown contacts, make ID intercepts and engage. And it's the CAP + Radar that feeds into the operations rooms who update their plotter maps as shown below. Not to mention other pilots who also announce contacts on the command channel. It's just as real as our icon map - the only difference is that you don't have time to plot out on your map what is where cause you know, you're flying a machine. With complicated components. And controls. And measuring your fuel consumption. And maintaining formation. And scanning for enemy fighters/bombers. And make sure you didn't get yourself in thick into bad weather. With airplanes that were notorious for breaking down or having issues. So we need to forgive the simple icon map Hitech gave us and focus on the fact it allows us to have more fun than the labour of flying a 1940's airplane. :D
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/The_Operations_Room_at_RAF_Fighter_Command%27s_No._10_Group_Headquarters%2C_Rudloe_Manor_%28RAF_Box%29%2C_Wiltshire%2C_showing_WAAF_plotters_and_duty_officers_at_work%2C_1943._CH11887.jpg/1280px-thumbnail.jpg)
The real-life icon map in WWII.
i just pretend that I have a bunch wee folk running around my clipboard pushing icons for me. I just have to figure out how to make 'em dance a bit
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