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Title: Training
Post by: Warto on November 13, 2019, 02:49:18 AM
Hi,
 
Im up for a bit of training if anyone available? Im in Australia (Sydney) and best suited for Friday nights for me, 9pm till 1am (GMT +10 hours). Ive been flying spits mostly for a while but looking to learn something a bit bigger (F4U, Pony etc). I can do Saturday nights occasionally if no other options.

Thanks
Title: Re: Training
Post by: FLS on November 13, 2019, 09:25:31 AM
I had to think a bit about the time difference. 9pm - 1am is 5am - 9am my time. 5am is a little early. I usually do an hour lesson so we could fit that in there somewhere. If you could do mornings or midday Saturday that would work too.

Title: Re: Training
Post by: flyrc2 on November 13, 2019, 10:40:06 AM
I'd be up for some training.  Would really like to work on dogfight stuff.  Located in central Illinois.
Title: Re: Training
Post by: FLS on November 13, 2019, 12:04:51 PM
What is a good time frame for you?
Title: Re: Training
Post by: flyrc2 on November 13, 2019, 02:10:57 PM
Usually on early morn and again late evening.  Won't be back on until Friday night or Saturday though.  Out of town right now.

Title: Re: Training
Post by: SIK1 on November 13, 2019, 06:47:18 PM
I'm available for some training as well.

Trying to do the time conversion stuff hurts my head right now. Warto I'm sure FLS and myself can figure out a way to get you some training.

Flyrc2 I'm sure we can figure something out with you as well. At least you are on the same day as I am. That makes the time conversions easier.

Weekdays don't work for me right now due to my work schedule, but I can do the weekends. I'm west coast U.S.

 :salute
Sik
Title: Re: Training
Post by: FLS on November 13, 2019, 06:56:04 PM
My Saturday morning is Friday night for Warto so that should work.

Title: Re: Training
Post by: SIK1 on November 13, 2019, 07:03:05 PM
FLS, I thought you were in North America. Because Australia is almost a full day ahead of me. (19 hours)

 :salute
Sik
Title: Re: Training
Post by: FLS on November 13, 2019, 07:16:34 PM
I got the time right and the day wrong. It would be Friday morning for me. Thanks.   :D
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Warto on November 13, 2019, 11:23:29 PM
Thanks guys for getting back. Yes Friday night is your Friday morning. I look forward to it.
Title: Re: Training
Post by: FLS on November 14, 2019, 08:08:08 AM
I'll see you in the training arena at 11PM your time.
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Warto on November 15, 2019, 01:15:56 AM
Thanks FLS  :aok
Title: Re: Training
Post by: FLS on November 15, 2019, 09:00:10 AM
Good session.  :aok

One thing I forgot to mention.  Aerobatic loops are good to practice for aircraft control but may be a poor choice in combat. When you fly a loop you can get very slow at the top and very fast at the bottom. Also your turn radius while smaller at the top is much bigger at the bottom. You can decrease the difference by tilting the loop instead of going straight up. This keeps you faster over the top and slower through the bottom. Tilting the loop away from the bandit can also give you more turning room but if you both do it you may set up another head on pass.
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Warto on November 15, 2019, 07:01:37 PM
Thanks FLS,

It was very insightful and also showed me there is still so much to learn.

Thanks for your time  :aok
Title: Re: Training
Post by: Puma44 on November 16, 2019, 12:43:14 PM
Thanks FLS,

It was very insightful and also showed me there is still so much to learn.

Thanks for your time  :aok

Ask him to teach you about the “energy egg” and flight path/lift vector in air to air maneuvering.  Very useful concepts to understand and apply.  :salute
Title: Re: Training
Post by: FLS on November 16, 2019, 01:54:24 PM
Ask him to teach you about the “energy egg” and flight path/lift vector in air to air maneuvering.  Very useful concepts to understand and apply.  :salute

The oblique loop I mentioned is an application of the energy egg concept. Pursuit curves are always part of the basic lesson.  :aok

Compare this egg from the Disney movie Planes with the real energy egg. No wonder the kids can't fly anymore.   :noid

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/6909/ui931n9dajvtfna4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/ui931n9dajvtfna/DISNEYEGG.png/file)

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/3726/9v38sdhrpon0hhy4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/9v38sdhrpon0hhy/Egg2.jpg/file)

One of the things the egg is showing us is that the inverted turn is improved by Gravity reducing radial G.

When going up or down Gravity is adding drag or thrust.

At the bottom of a vertical loop the turn is degraded by radial G.





Title: Re: Training
Post by: FLS on November 21, 2019, 11:07:10 AM


One of the things the egg is showing us is that the inverted turn is improved by Gravity reducing radial G.

When going up or down Gravity is adding drag or thrust.

At the bottom of a vertical loop the turn is degraded by radial G.

Oops. I meant to say the inverted turn is improved by Gravity increasing radial G.