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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Ciaphas on January 17, 2020, 12:31:27 AM
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Here is the possible next PC build for me.
Comments are always welcome!
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Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 7 3800X 3.90GHz Octa-Core
CPU Overclocking: CLX Forge -Professional CPU Overclocking
Thermal Compound (CLX Fluxx): Thermal Compound - CLX FLUXX
Motherboard: ASRock X470 FATAL1TY GAMING K4
Memory: 4x 16GB Corsair DDR4-3200
Graphics Card: NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 2080Ti 11GB
GPU Overclocking: CLX Forge -Professional GPU Overclocking
Operating System Storage: 250GB 2.5in SATA3 BarraCuda SSD
CPU Liquid Cooling: CLX Quench 360 Closed Liquid Cooler
Secondary Storage: 2x 3TB 3.5in Seagate Barracuda HDD
Chassis Selection: P7-C0 MidTower Black
Chassis Fans: 4x Standard 120mm Case Fans
Power Supply: 850 Watt Thermaltake Smart Pro
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Hmmm... It looks like a solid serious build. I'm sure someone will tell that this or that brand is not as good as another but to me there's no obvious weak points to see. Then again, that Power Supply seems to be 80 Bronze only. Skimping there is the worst thing to do, so I'd recommend a Seasonic. FOCUS GX-850, FOCUS PX-850, FOCUS Plus SSR-850 PX, Prime Ultra 850 all are fully modular 80+ Gold, Platinum or Titanium rated in the price range of $125-200.
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I ended up swapping out the: 850 Watt Thermaltake Smart Pro with the 1000 Watt EVGA SuperNOVA G2 Series (80 plus gold cert) that should about do it for the config.
The current machine I'm running is:
Motherboard MSI Z170 Krait ATX
Processor Intel Quad Core™ i5-6600 Processor
Memory 32GB Xidax Extreme DDR4 2400MHz Memory
Power Supply Corsair RM850 Watt Power Supply
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan X - 12GB GDDR5
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The Supernovas are good PSUs.
What are you gonna do with this thing...Minecraft? :D
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The Supernovas are good PSUs.
What are you gonna do with this thing...Minecraft? :D
haha!
watch youtube :rofl
This is going to be my workstation: Photoshop, Blender, substance painter, video creation/editing, music production (Cubase 9.5 Pro) etc...
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man that should give you full frames in tetris. tetris now sprouted supports vr.
but seriously is there now such a thing as too much power? as in power supply?
semp
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man that should give you full frames in tetris. tetris now sprouted supports vr.
but seriously is there now such a thing as too much power? as in power supply?
semp
Perhaps there is but I don't mind having a 1k watts under the hood.
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but seriously is there now such a thing as too much power? as in power supply?
That's what Skuzzy kept saying. I'm no engineer so the technical explanation went over my head but his main point was that too much excess power will cause issues in the long run if it doesn't have a place to go. His posts about it are still somewhere here.
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That's what Skuzzy kept saying. I'm no engineer so the technical explanation went over my head but his main point was that too much excess power will cause issues in the long run if it doesn't have a place to go. His posts about it are still somewhere here.
I recall Skuzzy posting something to this effect too, and also something similar regarding "too much" RAM, (perhaps > 16 GB?) as being counter-productive as well, although the RAM part likely focused on gaming needs....seems like it may be more useful for the video part?
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The too much RAM thing has most likely been game related. There's no such thing as too much RAM in Photoshopping not to mention video editing.
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The power supply will only give what is asked of it. if a device asks for 100 watts, the power supply gives it 100 watts and no more. The power supply doesn't take the total wattage output and divide it between the total number of connected devices nor does it work like a 200 watt tube amplifier where the amp itself will continue to generate power, eventually resulting in an energy discharge across its circuitry if there is no dissipation point for the energy. Hence the reason that a tube amplifier requires an output connection prior to powering on. That white noise you hear from the speaker cab is the excess energy dissipating via the output connection.
As for Ram, having a massive amount ie... 64 gigs, means that you can have a smaller page file and the SSD/HDD will not have to be accessed as often, increasing overall performance of your system but having a massive page file will hurt your performance as your SSD/HDD will be accessed a lot more for items that can easily and should be handled by your RAM.
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RAM could be way better with Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3200 CL16 - Corsair has mediocre and low quality 3200 RAM.
Storage configuration is utter nonsense with that small System OS and two big and loud harddrives.
a 500GB SSD is Ok for OS and programs and a 1-2TB one for most used games. if you need a data storage HDD you may consider an external HDD
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For Ryzen 3000 series CPUs, the recommended price/performance sweet spot is 3600 CL16:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/bzv2bo/psa_ddr43600mhz_cl16_memory_is_reported_sweet/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/bzv2bo/psa_ddr43600mhz_cl16_memory_is_reported_sweet/)
Just FYI, I'm not sure what the real world performance difference between 3200 and 3600 would be, but it might be a worthwhile YouTube search...
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Everything I have read and watched show a very marginal difference between the 16GB DDR4-3200 Corsair Vengance LPX CL16 sticks and the the ddr-4 3600 CL16 sticks. I believe that it's somewhere around but not over 1% for the 3000 series ryzen. The Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3200 CL16 being better is dependent on the user, looking at several benchmarks, there is like a 0.01% difference either way between the two.
The storage solution was built for what I need. I don't primarily game on my machines. My machines are for content creation with the occasional gaming session thrown in. I also have 6tb of physical cloud storage in my home as well as a few 2 tb external drives in a safe. When I move machines, hard drives get backed up, I don't format them until I have transferred the information to a drive that is then stored for safe keeping. If it's on a hard drive, I will need it at some point. I have sound packs (samples, midi files etc...) that are 3-4 hundred gigs, stock image packs that are un the hundreds of gigs as well. It doesn't take me long to fill a drive, a terabyte isn't a whole lot of room when you actually use it.
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FWIW my puter engineer son recently advised me that the 3200 RAM was the way to go, when I decided to upgrade to 16 GB from my 8 GB 2400 sticks.
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FWIW my puter engineer son recently advised me that the 3200 RAM was the way to go, when I decided to upgrade to 16 GB from my 8 GB 2400 sticks.
He's right there is not a noticeable gain between the 3200 RAM and 3600 RAM stick, especially when the margin is ≤ 1% for performance.
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The Supernovas are good PSUs.
What are you gonna do with this thing...Minecraft? :D
Color pong
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Color pong is way to advanced for this machine
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I think it used to be that PSU efficiency went way down as the load went down, so if you were using a 1000W PSU, but drawing only 150W of power, its efficiency would be crap -- you'd be, say, drawing 300W from the wall outlet to make 150W of power for the computer. So, the PSU would be delivering 150W of power to the computer (and generating 150W of heat through useful work) plus an additional 150W of power into just waste heat.
80 plus PSU's, though, are at least 80% efficient down to 20% load, meaning if you are drawing 200W from a 1000W PSU, it is drawing at most 200/.8 = 250W from the wall, so not bad.
However, 80 plus generally isn't rated at 10% load. So, if you have a 1000W PSU, but draw less than 200W normally, it's not clear what the efficiency is.
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80+ Titanium requires 90% efficiency at 10% load, all others ratings have 20% load for minimum eff reqment
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80+ Titanium requires 90% efficiency at 10% load, all others ratings have 20% load for minimum eff reqment
Thanks! Didn't know/remember having seen that before.
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I ended up swapping out the "ASRock X470 FATAL1TY GAMING K4" for the "ASUS PRIME X570-P". The power supply will be an " 850 Watt Corsair CX850M".
The final build will be:
Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 7 3800X 3.90GHz Octa-Core
CPU Overclocking: CLX Forge -Professional CPU Overclocking
Thermal Compound (CLX Fluxx): Thermal Compound - CLX FLUXX
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME X570-P
Memory: 4x 16GB Corsair DDR4-3200
Graphics Card: NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 2080Ti 11GB
GPU Overclocking: CLX Forge -Professional GPU Overclocking
Operating System Storage: 250GB 2.5in SATA3 BarraCuda SSD
CPU Liquid Cooling: CLX Quench 360 Closed Liquid Cooler
Secondary Storage: 2x 3TB 3.5in Seagate Barracuda HDD
Chassis Selection: P7-C0 MidTower Black
Chassis Fans: 4x Standard 120mm Case Fans
Power Supply: 850 Watt Corsair CX850M
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I have a 1080TI card and would really like to get the 2080TI for my Valve Index VR. Your specs looks great for a VR build. Looks like its gonna be a really nice build
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I have a 1080TI card and would really like to get the 2080TI for my Valve Index VR. Your specs looks great for a VR build. Looks like its gonna be a really nice build
It's leaps and bounds better than my current machine, though my current machine isn't that bad. It was built March 2016.
It's seen some stuff! :rofl :rock
*** Edit: I upgraded my new build to have a 1TB 2.5in SATA3 BarraCuda SSD instead of the 250 GB SSD. ***
Motherboard MSI Z170 Krait ATX
Processor Intel Quad Core™ i5-6600 Processor
Memory 32GB Xidax Extreme DDR4 2400MHz Memory
Power Supply Corsair RM850 Watt Power Supply
Optical Drive 24X ASUS DVD-RW Combo
Wireless TP-LINK Archer T9E AC1900 Dual Band Wireless
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan X - 12GB GDDR5
GPU OC Overclocked Graphics Card - 1 Card
Sound Cards Onboard Audio
HDD/SSD Western Digital Blue 1TB - 7200RPM 3.5" HDD
CPU Cooling ZALMAN CNPS10X OPTIMA 120mm FSB (Fluid Shield Bearing)
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New machine is in, hooked up and I gotta say, it's a beast for sure. :rock
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:aok
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New machine is in, hooked up and I gotta say, it's a beast for sure. :rock
Is it a front loader? They are very efficient.