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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BuckShot on January 18, 2020, 11:54:17 AM
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Hello,
I just got the notification that Windows 7 is no longer supported. I knew this was coming but forgot about it.
The only thing I use my PC for is this game. I don't use it for browsing or online purchases.
Do I need to upgrade to 10 if I only use this PC for Aces High?
Thanks,
BuckShot ~S~
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Hello,
I just got the notification that Windows 7 is no longer supported. I knew this was coming but forgot about it.
The only thing I use my PC for is this game. I don't use it for browsing or online purchases.
Do I need to upgrade to 10 if I only use this PC for Aces High?
Thanks,
BuckShot ~S~
You do not need to upgrade.
If you do decide to upgrade at some point and have your windows 7 install disk and product code. You can install windows 10 and use the install code from windows 7.
HiTech
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Thanks HiTech!
I still have that CD and label...and thanks for the lightning fast response!
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The official Microsoft announcements say that the free offer ended back in 2015 and in the "End of support" message of Win7 they tell that an upgrade can be bought, yet upgrading or installing with the Win7 key has been possible up to this day and hopefully in the near future as well. However, since they're officially said that the free offer has ended they can cancel it anyday they want.
One trick you can do if you want to ensure that you can upgrade your current rig someday is to upgrade over your existing Win7 and after 10 has successfully activated, roll back to 7. That should add the electronic activating code to your system for future use. You can download the upgrade tool here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10), choose to "upgrade this computer now".
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I would do a fresh install on a new drive if you decide to upgrade to 10.
HiTech
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I would do a fresh install on a new drive if you decide to upgrade to 10.
HiTech
Absolutely the best option.
My previous post just is a quick and dirty way to get the electronic activation for those who don't have or can't get another drive just now.
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I don't have a broadband connect so would probably buy a Win10 dvd. Just boot from the dvd and Win10 will install over Win7?
If I install a second ssd for Win10 does it need to be formatted/partitioned with Win7 before the Win10 install? Or, formatted and partitioned with Win10 during the install?
Been a long time since I messed with such stuff.
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I don't have a broadband connect so would probably buy a Win10 dvd. Just boot from the dvd and Win10 will install over Win7?
If I install a second ssd for Win10 does it need to be formatted/partitioned with Win7 before the Win10 install? Or, formatted and partitioned with Win10 during the install?
Been a long time since I messed with such stuff.
Have someone download it and burn to DVD. It will still need to update.
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Rather than a DVD I'd use a memory stick, 8 GB and up.
There's no need to format a hard disk before installing. The installation process will take care of both formatting and creating the small system partitions. Unless you want to partition the SSD which most likely isn't an optimal solution.
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Can a new ssd drive be installed and then download win 10 to it if win 7 is installed on a ssd drive (C) already? A clean install on the new drive?
If so, what is the procedure? Thanks for any tips/info. Bixby.
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If your MB will boot from a USB drive you can download Win10, put it on a usb stick, unplug your old SSD, plug in the new SSD, install Win10 from the USB drive to the new SSD. Make sure the MB is set to boot from the new SSD. Once that's done you can plug the old SSD back in for a data drive.
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Run the Tool on the Microsoft website https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10), choose to "create an installing media --- for this computer" (phrasing is my own but you get the idea when you see it). Make a bootable USB stick as per the instructions.
Then do as FLS said.
If you get to the screen where you'd have to choose the version of Windows 10, choose the one that matches your Win7 i.e. Home to Home, Pro to Pro. W7 Ultimate is also Pro. If you choose to create the stick "for this computer" the Tool may already choose the right version as well as copy the license code. So you may choose "I don't have a license code" as well and continue from there. Should the code not follow with the stick you can add the Win7 code later when the computer prompts for activation.
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Thanks FLS and Bizman. I will do as you suggest.
I have a new 32GB usb stick. That should be large enough, correct?
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Yes. Win 10 is about 7-8gb usually (depends on image).
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Just saw the earlier post saying 8 GB and up. Thanks again.
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I just updated by Windows 7 to 10. Seems to work acceptably.
I did it that way for two reasons:
1. I was starting with Windows 7 and had heard that the free update will still work and didn't want to stray from what folks said would work.
2. Although I generally would prefer a fresh install, fresh installs these days are getting to be such a huge pain in the butt that I'm willing to give update a try and see how it goes.
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Well done Brooke! For what I've noticed the upgrade method can be a valid option and unlike the previous versions of Windows the current one does it reasonably well. I've chosen that way especially on older machines with certain software installed. Among those are the free Office 2010 Starter and Microsoft Live Mail, both of which can't be reinstalled on Windows 10. There's alternatives but for the price I'm charging and for the level of usage migrating wouldn't be worth the effort. But it all depends on the overall condition and usage.
Comparing upgrading and clean install as procedures there's not much difference. Just yesterday I did two fresh installs, one using the Windows7 code on the sticker, the other just by installing without any code since it was a Win8 laptop downgraded to Win7 so the original electronic code for 8 was still somewhere inside. For the first one I did it on a brand new SSD so there was no data left from the original Win7.
As for a fresh install being a pain in the butt I can confirm that to some extent. I bit the bullet and got a "new" rig in December. Getting my mail transferred from Live Mail to Thunderbird took forever as there's no automation available for the current version. 4700+ posts, 5 mailboxes, a dozen local folders including their subfolders... Even the comma separated exported address book doesn't import as such, it has to be modified in Excel! So far I've only done the "mandatory" tasks, programs like Skype still wait for a reinstall. On the bright side I've also got rid of a huge bunch of programs that either were outdated or which I actually never used.
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I have many rants about Microsoft, and one of them is about the idiocy of architecting the OS so that reinstall requires a reinstallation of every app. People responsible for that need to spend some time in purgatory to make up for the pain and suffering they inflicted on the world.
The OS install isn't more painful than the update -- it's the day (sometimes longer) of work it takes me to reinstall and reconfigure everything else, things like the super-tedious Quickbooks install, reconfigure, and restore, as one example.
Otherwise, I would greatly prefer a fresh install.
Also, once I've got it going, I definitely use the freeware tool "Shut Up 10" to turn off all of the embedded shady spyware that is now part of the Windows OS. A *very* handy tool.
Shut Up 10
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
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Please believe me that widows 10 is the cats arse of all the windows OS EVER made up to now. For about 10 years i was a die hard windows 7 lover!!! I had a mishap with my hard drive and lost everything on a terabyte HD. A LOT of toejam!!! I am so very thankful to who ever made windows 10 nearly every time log off and shut down my computer!
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I did the update over 7 not a fresh install and it seems to be working fine so, far the only thing I have noticed different is that I can no longer alt tab out of the game, soon as I let off the alt tab keys it goes right back into the game. Anyone else have this happen?
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Alt-tab no longer cycles through the desktop, it seems. BUT, you can get to the desktop by hitting the windows and d keys- hold down the windows key, and hit the d key and you should be back at the desktop immediately.
Mike
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Alt-tab no longer cycles through the desktop, it seems. BUT, you can get to the desktop by hitting the windows and d keys- hold down the windows key, and hit the d key and you should be back at the desktop immediately.
Mike
On Win 10?
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Yep, that's the way it works on my machine at least.
Mike
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I don't go to the desktop but I switch windows while I play and I just use alt tab
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Please believe me that widows 10 is the cats arse of all the windows OS EVER made up to now.
To me (on the scale of different OS'es, such as Unix and Mac OS), Windows 10 is about the same as Windows 7. I don't see any benefit to me other than it being in support.
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To me (on the scale of different OS'es, such as Unix and Mac OS), Windows 10 is about the same as Windows 7. I don't see any benefit to me other than it being in support.
To the end-user there aren't many differences. We rolled out 10 over the last year at my firm, everyone thought it was daunting but once they used it for a day they were saying "what's the difference"? Just some visual differences really. My one gripe is they created two of everything for menu type stuff. Two different printer menus, two 'control panels', etc.
As for upgrade vs. fresh install, fresh is always better, but I have to say, I've done about 25-30 upgrades and have had little issues with those machines. Here and there we've had to re-install a printer driver or something, but nothing major.
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To the end-user there aren't many differences. We rolled out 10 over the last year at my firm, everyone thought it was daunting but once they used it for a day they were saying "what's the difference"? Just some visual differences really. My one gripe is they created two of everything for menu type stuff. Two different printer menus, two 'control panels', etc.
As for upgrade vs. fresh install, fresh is always better, but I have to say, I've done about 25-30 upgrades and have had little issues with those machines. Here and there we've had to re-install a printer driver or something, but nothing major.
Exactly what I've experienced, except that my customers often are of the age who haven't used computers at work. Printers have to be reinstalled, other than that an upgrade works right after installing. Some drivers may need updating but even those most often are up to date to the point where the inner device's manufacturer can't provide newer ones.