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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: toddbobe on February 12, 2020, 10:33:49 PM
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I know a nurse in Wuhan China, the city where the outbreak started. They need N95 masks. If you work in a doctors office, or any medical facility that would have those masks please consider donating them. Also needed are face shields, and gloves.
Reply here or look for me in game. My vox is 143 nit.
Thank you
Todd
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how you plan to deliver them?
semp
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Semp:
Good question
Fedex is running relief flights to Shanghai and Fedex china is running medical supplies only into wuhan. I have already successfully delivered one package.
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Might be too late to find N95 masks even in the US.
Pricing on amazon is out of control the last two days.
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Might be too late to find N95 masks even in the US.
Pricing on amazon is out of control the last two days.
You are more likely to find a generator after a hurricane.
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Way ahead of most.
Got enough for an extended time period and enough to protect it.
I am getting a cast iron hardwood stove from local craigslist.
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I know a nurse in Wuhan China, the city where the outbreak started. They need N95 masks. If you work in a doctors office, or any medical facility that would have those masks please consider donating them. Also needed are face shields, and gloves.
Reply here or look for me in game. My vox is 143 nit.
Thank you
Todd
Really? Why should we help out China? They have been screwing us for years and are only building their
military up to eventually take us over... remember, the Chinese play the long game... we only play the
short game!
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Really? Why should we help out China? They have been screwing us for years and are only building their
military up to eventually take us over... remember, the Chinese play the long game... we only play the
short game!
Considering that bug is now here you tell me how you feel when someone you care about has to go into an infected ward with homemade makeshift equipment.... something tells me geopolitics will be the last thing on your mind.
In case your interested she is still not infected... by the grace of god.
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Masks don't do much if at all. They do help with those infected, knowingly or unknowingly, from spreading the 'bug'.
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Masks don't do much if at all. They do help with those infected, knowingly or unknowingly, from spreading the 'bug'.
It is standard equipment. I’m a lawyer, not in the medical field, I just know what those with MD after their name say.
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Considering that bug is now here you tell me how you feel when someone you care about has to go into an infected ward with homemade makeshift equipment.... something tells me geopolitics will be the last thing on your mind.
In case your interested she is still not infected... by the grace of god.
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I'm guessing you are a Dem... but then again the Dems have been trying to scare the U.S. citizens and will somehow blame this on Trump!
Remember, Dems and Repubs will always take advantage of what THEY call a crisis
This is the time to NOT pay attention to what they call a crisis :aok
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I'm guessing you are a Dem... but then again the Dems have been trying to scare the U.S. citizens and will somehow blame this on Trump!
Remember, Dems and Repubs will always take advantage of what THEY call a crisis
This is the time to NOT pay attention to what they call a crisis :aok
I remember the good ole days when things could go wrong and it wasn't President (insert name here)'s fault. Personally I blame Fox news for scaring the crap out of people every day and Facebook for keeping it going. If one or both of those are a source of news (entertainment) for you, you have a wildly skewed view on reality. You would do better to go stand on the corner wearing a sandwich board proclaiming that "The end is coming"
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I remember the good ole days when things could go wrong and it wasn't President (insert name here)'s fault. Personally I blame Fox news for scaring the crap out of people every day and Facebook for keeping it going. If one or both of those are a source of news (entertainment) for you, you have a wildly skewed view on reality. You would do better to go stand on the corner wearing a sandwich board proclaiming that "The end is coming"
Yeah because ABC, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, or the Washington post liberal slime wrags, aren't spreading fear and propaganda? Who lied about attacks when it was actually a Kentucky explosion? Why attack the one single half way conservative news outlet on TV? Statistics from Mark Levins book Unfreedom of the Press state that Fox news is the most balanced. You should read the first chapter of his book. Fox news is doing the people a service by actually remaining somewhat balanced. It's statistically proven and documented.
You want real journalism? Go watch George Webb Webb YouTube. But don't say Fox is spreading fear when they are actually the best MSM news channel that have highest ratings than all the liberal media combined (for a reason). When people only attack Fox news. I consider their views wildly skewed on reality.
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I'm guessing you are a Dem... but then again the Dems have been trying to scare the U.S. citizens and will somehow blame this on Trump!
Remember, Dems and Repubs will always take advantage of what THEY call a crisis
This is the time to NOT pay attention to what they call a crisis :aok
Im so far to the right I have to look over my left shoulder to see Rush.
Todd
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Yeah because ABC, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, or the Washington post liberal slime wrags, aren't spreading fear and propaganda? Who lied about attacks when it was actually a Kentucky explosion? Why attack the one single half way conservative news outlet on TV? Statistics from Mark Levins book Unfreedom of the Press state that Fox news is the most balanced. You should read the first chapter of his book. Fox news is doing the people a service by actually remaining somewhat balanced. It's statistically proven and documented.
You want real journalism? Go watch George Webb Webb YouTube. But don't say Fox is spreading fear when they are actually the best MSM news channel that have highest ratings than all the liberal media combined (for a reason). When people only attack Fox news. I consider their views wildly skewed on reality.
Faux News. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Faux News. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:aok
Independent media is where you get the news Raw and Bleedin..
I don't need them to filter it for me.. Controlling when and what I see/hear..
Faux News, is so LAST WEEK.. :rofl
I gave up TV totally, back in 2013, don't miss it one bit..
I watch Tucker, on an independent feed..
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Yeah because ABC, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, or the Washington post liberal slime wrags, aren't spreading fear and propaganda? Who lied about attacks when it was actually a Kentucky explosion? Why attack the one single half way conservative news outlet on TV? Statistics from Mark Levins book Unfreedom of the Press state that Fox news is the most balanced. You should read the first chapter of his book. Fox news is doing the people a service by actually remaining somewhat balanced. It's statistically proven and documented.
You want real journalism? Go watch George Webb Webb YouTube. But don't say Fox is spreading fear when they are actually the best MSM news channel that have highest ratings than all the liberal media combined (for a reason). When people only attack Fox news. I consider their views wildly skewed on reality.
Cracks me up when anyone can't see through the basic advertising tact that companies like Fox News uses.. "You can only trust us!! We're the ONLY ones that will tell the truth! Everyone else is lying to you! We're it.. the only ones that can save you!! ! Don't bother looking at our tower of cards any other way then what we show you!!" ROFL it's a joke that sadly so many millions fall for.
If you believe that I have a big wall going up down south... a big beautiful wall! Mexico is even paying for that wall so it's your's for free!!
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Cracks me up when anyone can't see through the basic advertising tact that companies like Fox News uses.. "You can only trust us!! We're the ONLY ones that will tell the truth! Everyone else is lying to you! We're it.. the only ones that can save you!! ! Don't bother looking at our tower of cards any other way then what we show you!!" ROFL it's a joke that sadly so many millions fall for.
If you believe that I have a big wall going up down south... a big beautiful wall! Mexico is even paying for that wall so it's your's for free!!
:rofl what ever you say Comrade.
Enjoy those incredibly low ratings on CNN and ABC. You are the last one standing LOL.
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:rofl what ever you say Comrade.
Enjoy those incredibly low ratings on CNN and ABC. You are the last one standing LOL.
Why would I worry about a tv stations ratings? :headscratch:
But same to you. Enjoy your carefully written scripts. Really smart people have worked hard to make sure that simple minds can digest them and respond accordingly.
Why you’re at it, parrot back some other simple lines you’ve been programmed to say.
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Amazing how a post looking for help to help others can go off topic.
Thank you Hightech for letting me ask our player base.
Todd
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Faux News. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You must watch cnn, the most busted news source.
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It is standard equipment. I’m a lawyer, not in the medical field, I just know what those with MD after their name say.
While I am dubious about average people clinging to the magical power of masks to save them (unless you are having to be packed in to tight proximity to others in recirculated air like subways, buses, air travel, etc ), I do believe they are important equipment for healthcare workers who have to be surrounded, in close, direct contact, by hundreds or thousands of known infected for hours and days.
And while I distrust and really despise the current Chinese governmental regime, the doctors and nurses on the front like are brave people putting their own lives at risk to help others they don't even know personally. I respect that no matter what political system you were born into beyond your control.
That said, I hate to sound like a d*k, but at this point I wouldn't send a thing over there. If it appeared we could have kept it contained there, I would. But it's out now. It's here. It will get much, much, much worse here too. The masks and supplies we think are surplus here , will be exhausted very quickly. We'll be needing everything we got for ourselves.
And it still won't be enough.
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While I am dubious about average people clinging to the magical power of masks to save them (unless you are having to be packed in to tight proximity to others in recirculated air like subways, buses, air travel, etc ), I do believe they are important equipment for healthcare workers who have to be surrounded, in close, direct contact, by hundreds or thousands of known infected for hours and days.
And while I distrust and really despise the current Chinese governmental regime, the doctors and nurses on the front like are brave people putting their own lives at risk to help others they don't even know personally. I respect that no matter what political system you were born into beyond your control.
That said, I hate to sound like a d*k, but at this point I wouldn't send a thing over there. If it appeared we could have kept it contained there, I would. But it's out now. It's here. It will get much, much, much worse here too. The masks and supplies we think are surplus here , will be exhausted very quickly. We'll be needing everything we got for ourselves.
And it still won't be enough.
This post was from the early days of the plague when it was contained to Wuhan. Now that it’s here those medical professionals are reaching out to us and are freely sharing their findings, experience and information. You are correct they are hero’s and deserve our respect. They will save countless lives here. Many paid with their lives.
But yes, nothing can be sent now. All flights are cut.
We agree on the current gov in Beijing, it’s tyrannical and I hope it’s put in the ash heap of history soon. When that day comes it will be reason to celebrate.
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So many people have no problem dealing with a communist country till it cost them dearly. Oh well.
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So many people have no problem dealing with a communist country till it cost them dearly. Oh well.
There is a difference between dealing with a country and individuals that happen to be in that country.
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There is a difference between dealing with a country and individuals that happen to be in that country.
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The people made their choice long ago. They have to live with it now and so do their children.
Unless they can make a stand.
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The people made their choice long ago. They have to live with it now and so do their children.
Unless they can make a stand.
China is full of many political opinions, but most can not be shared openly. We are lucky.
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China is full of many political opinions, but most can not be shared openly. We are lucky.
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Lucky? Our rights have been fought for.... no luck.
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Lucky? Our rights have been fought for.... no luck.
We're lucky we won. So is the rest of the world.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/us-currently-has-10percent-of-face-masks-needed-for-a-full-blown-coronavirus-pandemic-hhs-official-says.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/us-currently-has-10percent-of-face-masks-needed-for-a-full-blown-coronavirus-pandemic-hhs-official-says.html)
This isn't so much a threat to the general public, but it could be devastating for our healthcare providers.
What happens to the health system once a huge percentage of the doctors and nurses become infected?
What happens to millions of sick if he health system collapses?
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And China has begun to put export restrictions on masks. And our mask manufacturing capacity has been outsourced to China. So where are we going to get the other 90% of masks we need?
https://www.guerillastocktrading.com/china-puts-export-restrictions-on-us-companies-making-n95-masks/ (https://www.guerillastocktrading.com/china-puts-export-restrictions-on-us-companies-making-n95-masks/)
If some US company went on a crash course factory setup now, they could have stock rolling off the line in ...6 months?
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And China has begun to put export restrictions on masks. And our mask manufacturing capacity has been outsourced to China. So where are we going to get the other 90% of masks we need?
https://www.guerillastocktrading.com/china-puts-export-restrictions-on-us-companies-making-n95-masks/ (https://www.guerillastocktrading.com/china-puts-export-restrictions-on-us-companies-making-n95-masks/)
If some US company went on a crash course factory setup now, they could have stock rolling off the line in ...6 months?
Probably sooner - I read that FOXCONN, who normally make computers/electronics (in particular Apple products) had already repurposed their factory to make masks. Many textile plants could probably make them (OK, there aren't a LOT of textile industries around, but there should be, and Mexico has plenty of them as well, IIRC).
Mike
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Probably sooner - I read that FOXCONN, who normally make computers/electronics (in particular Apple products) had already repurposed their factory to make masks. Many textile plants could probably make them (OK, there aren't a LOT of textile industries around, but there should be, and Mexico has plenty of them as well, IIRC).
Mike
kind of doubt this. from computer parts to masks need new machines.
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kind of doubt this. from computer parts to masks need new machines.
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Oh it can be done. We converted factories from washing-machines to B-17's.
The question is how fast, and how many healthcare workers do you put out of action in the meantime.
But who is going to man the factories? If things really get bad, that whole mass shoulder to shoulder factory thing is going to be hard in hazmat suits.
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Oh it can be done. We converted factories from washing-machines to B-17's.
The question is how fast, and how many healthcare workers do you put out of action in the meantime.
But who is going to man the factories? If things really get bad, that whole mass shoulder to shoulder factory thing is going to be hard in hazmat suits.
we converted factories to make b17s parts., not b17s as they shouldn't fit in the front door.
switching to something different requires new machines and retraining of people, several months in between. not like they have machines just laying around.
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we converted factories to make b17s parts., not b17s as they shouldn't fit in the front door.
I guess it depends on the door.
(https://external-preview.redd.it/3Q4HSeMwsT8I-dZohXMvXAeGYKfVNushuY93PrKxCg0.jpg?auto=webp&s=ba75f4be160497b17396092d638e2756cf64ca1c)
switching to something different requires new machines and retraining of people, several months in between. not like they have machines just laying around.
I think we agree we should be skeptical that local factories can be completely refitted for mask production fast enough to help much in the critical shortage over the next year. For a variety of reasons possibly including worker quarantine.
I can't believe that we've been buying B-2's for billions a pop for decades to mostly sit in hangars, but some contingency planner didn't think to stockpile masks for the next major pandemic that everyone knew was going to hit sooner or later. :rolleyes:
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true
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BTW - you only need to wear a mask if you're infected or a medical worker to protect, not yourself, but to already sick and infected patients from giving them a cold or other common transmittable diseases you, as a medical worker, already have.
Wearing a mask does ZIP to protect you from catching a virus or bacterial infection. Proper washing of your hands and good cleanliness is the best way to protect you and your family.
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And the hits just keep on coming....
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/04/hhs-clarifies-us-has-about-1percent-of-face-masks-needed-for-full-blown-pandemic.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/04/hhs-clarifies-us-has-about-1percent-of-face-masks-needed-for-full-blown-pandemic.html)
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And the hits just keep on coming....
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/04/hhs-clarifies-us-has-about-1percent-of-face-masks-needed-for-full-blown-pandemic.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/04/hhs-clarifies-us-has-about-1percent-of-face-masks-needed-for-full-blown-pandemic.html)
What exactly are they using the face mask for?
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What exactly are they using the face mask for?
Masks are very important for frontline healthcare workers who might have to be treating hundreds of infected patients a day in tight confines, in close proximity, in a closed air system.
They'll be spending 12-16 hours a day in a viral hot-zone only slightly less dangerous than walking in to a reactor core.
If the doctors and nurses drop, then the whole health system collapses. Untreated, death rates would skyrocket.
Sending health workers into an infection ward without proper equipment would be like sending our soldiers to war without guns, or ammo, or helmets.
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Masks are very important for frontline healthcare workers who might have to be treating hundreds of infected patients a day in tight confines, in close proximity, in a closed air system.
They'll be spending 12-16 hours a day in a viral hot-zone only slightly less dangerous than walking in to a reactor core.
If the doctors and nurses drop, then the whole health system collapses. Untreated, death rates would skyrocket.
Sending health workers into an infection ward without proper equipment would be like sending our soldiers to war without guns, or ammo, or helmets.
You hit the nail on the head. Why China demanded all it's citizens in and around Wuhan wear them is beyond me as it caused a huge demand in the masks by millions of people who didn't need them.
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Masks are very important for frontline healthcare workers who might have to be treating hundreds of infected patients a day in tight confines, in close proximity, in a closed air system.
They'll be spending 12-16 hours a day in a viral hot-zone only slightly less dangerous than walking in to a reactor core.
If the doctors and nurses drop, then the whole health system collapses. Untreated, death rates would skyrocket.
Sending health workers into an infection ward without proper equipment would be like sending our soldiers to war without guns, or ammo, or helmets.
Sure for a doctor or nurse..... I mean those folks walking down the sidewalk. LOL
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You hit the nail on the head. Why China demanded all it's citizens in and around Wuhan wear them is beyond me as it caused a huge demand in the masks by millions of people who didn't need them.
When one doesn't know who has it and who doesn't have it, especially at ground zero, rather prudent for all to wear.
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When one doesn't know who has it and who doesn't have it, especially at ground zero, rather prudent for all to wear.
It doesn't hurt to wear one, other than diverting the supply away from critical frontline health workers. It does drive me crazy to see people with their surgical masks yet not wearing gloves and walking around touching everything in public like door knobs, hand rails, table tops, elevator buttons, etc. I'd be wearing gloves before a mask.
If I was riding NY subway, or city bus, or getting on a plane, or a cruise ship :rofl, or working on a factory assembly line all day, I'd want one.
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Warnings I read say to avoid folks with gloves as they are less.likely to wash their hands often.
They are more likely to spread the virus.
Of course doctors and nurses change gloves as they change patients so this does not include them.
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Warnings I read say to avoid folks with gloves as they are less.likely to wash their hands often.
They are more likely to spread the virus.
Of course doctors and nurses change gloves as they change patients so this does not include them.
That's like saying watch out for people who are wearing seat-belts in their car; They are probably more reckless drivers.
That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And around here , that's saying something. :rolleyes:
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That's like saying watch out for people who are wearing seat-belts in their car; They are probably more reckless drivers.
That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And around here , that's saying something. :rolleyes:
Far different than seat-belts. How many times have you seen folks with gloves wash their hands?
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Far different than seat-belts. How many times have you seen folks with gloves wash their hands?
Are you saying a person is at higher risk wearing gloves than not wearing gloves?
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Are you saying a person is at higher risk wearing gloves than not wearing gloves?
you do the same thing with gloves as without. touch your face, your clothes, scratch your arms. gives a false sense of security, specially for those who don't normally use them.
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Are you saying a person is at higher risk wearing gloves than not wearing gloves?
If you read what I posted, I read where it said to steer clear of those who wear gloves.
To explain... they do not wash their hands because they have gloves on. Since they have gloves on, if their gloves get contaminated.... they then contaminate everything else they touch.
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Well don't shake hands with people with their gloves on. If they make your food with gloves and don't throw them away before taking your money, tell them to remake your food with clean gloves, because you're not the first person they've done that with, more than likely.
Its always a combination of people are idiots and minimum wage workers are minimally trained.
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:rofl
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XFL game food vendor found to have the virus. That is sure not good.
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XFL game food vendor found to have the virus. That is sure not good.
Does XFL have that much attendance?
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Does XFL have that much attendance?
they bring a few thousand. i find it pretty cool to watch instead of races.
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XFL game food vendor found to have the virus. That is sure not good.
Great. The person had been working the game with the Dallas Renegades. It's probably in DFW now.
:bhead