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Title: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Nefarious on February 15, 2020, 12:24:43 PM
We talk about additions without new modeling, A P-47D-15 through D-23 would be a good addition.

The P-47D-15 would be more like our D-11 but it would have wing racks for external fuel tanks.

The P-47D-23 would be like a D-25, just without a bubble canopy.

Another helpful tool would be specific external drop tanks, this would allow us to narrow down time periods for the Thunderbolt.
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: ONTOS on February 15, 2020, 12:46:31 PM
With respect to Nefarious, I would rather see a new plane, instead of more of the same plane(s) with modifications.  A new plane might , just might create more interest in the game.
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Shuffler on February 15, 2020, 09:21:13 PM
With respect to Nefarious, I would rather see a new plane, instead of more of the same plane(s) with modifications.  A new plane might , just might create more interest in the game.

So what plane are you wanting?

One of the most requested is a Beufighter.
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Volron on February 15, 2020, 11:03:18 PM
So what plane are you wanting?

One of the most requested is a Beufighter.

What is the most requested Fighter?

What is the most requested Attacker?  This one is easy of course, Beaufighter.  :D

What is the most requested Bomber?  While not the most requested, personally I'd love it if the Italians got the SM.79 at least.


Other than each category, yeah, Beaufighter for sure. :aok
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: whiteman on February 16, 2020, 01:55:25 AM
More Razorbacks you say, hmmmmm. Yes.
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Devil 505 on February 16, 2020, 08:35:18 AM
Like this idea.
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: The Fugitive on February 16, 2020, 08:42:21 AM
What is the most requested Fighter? G.55

What is the most requested Attacker?  This one is easy of course, Beaufighter.  :D

What is the most requested Bomber?  While not the most requested, personally I'd love it if the Italians got the SM.79 at least.


Other than each category, yeah, Beaufighter for sure. :aok

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Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Nefarious on February 16, 2020, 09:12:44 AM
Like this idea.

I would be content with renaming the P-47D-11 to the P-47D-15 if only to keep the number of total plane variants down.

If the D-11 had these options, it would be pretty good. (Wiki)

200 U.S. gallon (758 l) ferry tank: A conformal tub-shaped jettisonable tank made of paper, which barely cleared the ground on grass airfields, was used as an interim measure between 30 July and 31 August 1943.
75 U.S. gallon(284 l) drop tank: A standardized, all-metal teardrop-shaped steel tank with a prominent protruding horizontal seam, initially produced for the P-39 Airacobra, was adapted to the P-47 beginning 31 August 1943. It was initially carried on the belly shackle, but was used in pairs in 1944 as underwing tanks, and adopted as a standard accessory in the US inventory.
108 U.S. gallon (409 l) drop tank: A cylindrical paper tank of British design and manufacture, used as a belly tank beginning in September 1943 and a wing tank in April 1944.
150 U.S. gallon (568 l) drop tank: A steel tank first used as a belly tank 20 February 1944, and an underwing tank 22 May 1944.
215 U.S. gallon (810 l) drop tank: A wide, flat steel tank developed by VIII Service Command was first used in February 1945.
165 U.S. gallon (625 l) drop tank: This tank, produced by Lockheed, could be used either as a fuel tank or as a napalm container.
110 U.S. gallon (416 l) drop tank: This tank was similar in shape to the 75 gallon drop tank, but was larger. It could also be used as a napalm container.

Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: ONTOS on February 16, 2020, 12:17:19 PM
I would like the Fiat G55 serie l as a new plane.
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Hajo on February 16, 2020, 06:07:57 PM
D11s' didn't have paddle props from the factory, if I'm not mistaken.  Some D11s like Gabreskis' had them retrofitted to his.  If I remember correctly the D11 in game is not modeled with the paddle prop.

Paddle prop on the D11 would be a significant addition.
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Nefarious on February 16, 2020, 08:08:16 PM
D11s' didn't have paddle props from the factory, if I'm not mistaken.  Some D11s like Gabreskis' had them retrofitted to his.  If I remember correctly the D11 in game is not modeled with the paddle prop.

Paddle prop on the D11 would be a significant addition.

That's why I suggested maybe replacing the D-11 with the D-15. Keep the narrow Curtiss Prop but add all the fuel tanks, that can be limited using CM settings. That allows us to do earlier and later setups.
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Shuffler on February 17, 2020, 12:22:20 AM
If I am not mistaken, the D 11 did not have the basement to run down to when the enemy shoots at you either. The later versions had 2 story and a basement. You could run all over the cockpit to keep from being hit by shells.
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Chalenge on February 17, 2020, 05:40:51 PM
Junkers Ju-86.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WDkj0ZYuiA
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Ciaphas on February 17, 2020, 07:13:54 PM
Junkers Ju-86.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WDkj0ZYuiA

Kind of a worthless aircraft... .
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Oldman731 on February 17, 2020, 08:37:48 PM
Junkers Ju-86.


Somewhere I have - or used to have - a copy of one of those 1930s aviation magazines that have disappeared over time.  Its cover displayed a Ju-86 and a French biplane fighter.  The dorsal gunner was hosing the Frenchman with a ray gun, and the caption was "Will Germany Employ a Death Ray?"

Hey, if you have a death ray gun, you can put it on just about any aeroplane and you'll be pretty effective.

- oldman
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Chalenge on February 18, 2020, 03:22:35 AM
Kind of a worthless aircraft... .

Worthless to you, maybe. At least you didn't call it a hangar queen.
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Ciaphas on February 24, 2020, 10:55:07 PM
It was worthless, it was a better passenger aircraft than a military aircraft.


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Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Ciaphas on February 25, 2020, 02:03:12 AM
Let's be realistic, it was inferior to the HE 111, served in a high alt roll until it was shot down at 40k ft +/- a few thousand feet. It was retired jn 43', was never really mass produced. Even it's variants were limited in production.


So, yeah, worthless.


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Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: Hajo on February 25, 2020, 10:55:39 AM
Never understood why the Beaufighter was never added.  Versatile and served in every theater of the war.   :(
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: bozon on February 26, 2020, 07:52:39 AM
Beaufighter for sure. :aok
And we have the correct answer!
Title: Re: P-47D-15 through D-23
Post by: trap78 on March 05, 2020, 08:14:19 AM
We talk about additions without new modeling, A P-47D-15 through D-23 would be a good addition.

The P-47D-15 would be more like our D-11 but it would have wing racks for external fuel tanks.

The P-47D-23 would be like a D-25, just without a bubble canopy.

Another helpful tool would be specific external drop tanks, this would allow us to narrow down time periods for the Thunderbolt.

For Special Events or historical setups in the AvA, these would be good additions for the early '43 to mid '44 time periods. These variants would provide more options to the SE guys to support the historical side of the game without having to build new models from scratch.
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