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Title: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 14, 2020, 05:09:28 PM
Folks, please help us put this event over the top.

Fill up our last Typhoons and P-47's.

You'll be glad you did!

Years from now, you can regale friends and family, who sit surrounding you open mouthed in amazement and fascination, as they hear your wondrous tales of adventure and daring during "To Win the Winter Sky".

How -- with your band of brothers, up in the cloud-flecked brilliant blue, in your mighty Typhoon or Thunderbolt -- you defended the winter Ardennes from a vast and determined evil.

Saturdays in May.

Please register here if you can join us:
https://ahevents.net/index.php/events/scenarios/current-or-next-scenario
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 14, 2020, 05:11:51 PM
Two of these beauties:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Hawker_Typhoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 14, 2020, 05:13:41 PM
Three of these beauties:

(https://c4.wallpaperflare.com/wallpaper/48/989/113/thunderbolt-p-47-dogfight-wwii-fw-190-hd-wallpaper-preview.jpg)
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 17, 2020, 02:07:59 AM
(https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/y3P3e7awXYginJ3MgS48WaoHIr4=/768x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/Hawker_Typhoon-1-5b17e58cba6177003d159a55.jpg)
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2020, 12:52:33 AM
Shipper has joined us in mighty P-47 Thunderbolts.  :aok

Now, 1 Typhoon and 2 P-47's left to fill.

And one P-51 spot has opened up.
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: guncrasher on March 23, 2020, 03:28:22 AM
p47s have unlimited ammo.



semp
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Max on March 23, 2020, 07:52:53 AM
No more Typhoons  :old: :joystick: I grabbed the last one. :banana:
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Hajo on March 23, 2020, 10:05:01 AM
No more Typhoons  :old: :joystick: I grabbed the last one. :banana:

WTG MaXie! 
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Hajo on March 23, 2020, 10:16:01 AM
BTW when flying Jugs in scenarios we seem to always get the short stick just for flying one. I've never flown anything in a scenario involving Jugs but D11s and D25s'. 

What exactly is the time frame of this event?  There are three models above the D25 that have tail numbers beginning with 42.  The D26, 27 and 28. according to Bodies book Thunderbolt from Seversky to Victory.  In the book the D27 had an increase of 130HP from water injection.

Ya..I know we don't have them.  There is an in game gap in development here.
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: turt21 on March 23, 2020, 11:12:32 AM
If I end up still keeping an acct by May I will be there.
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Spikes on March 23, 2020, 11:24:29 AM
BTW when flying Jugs in scenarios we seem to always get the short stick just for flying one. I've never flown anything in a scenario involving Jugs but D11s and D25s'. 

What exactly is the time frame of this event?  There are three models above the D25 that have tail numbers beginning with 42.  The D26, 27 and 28. according to Bodies book Thunderbolt from Seversky to Victory.  In the book the D27 had an increase of 130HP from water injection.

Ya..I know we don't have them.  There is an in game gap in development here.
Dec 44-Jan 45 is when the event is set.
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2020, 02:12:49 PM
No more Typhoons  :old: :joystick: I grabbed the last one. :banana:

Sweet!  Thanks, Max!  :aok
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2020, 03:16:13 PM
I've never flown anything in a scenario involving Jugs but D11s and D25s'.

D-11's, D-25's, and D-40's all have about the same performance.

However, we always try to use the best representative of what was in the historical battle, subject to balance.

In this case, at the time of battle (Dec 1944 - Jan 1945) the 506th FS seems to have still had some razorbacks, and they had D-25's, according to:
http://www.winkton.net/pages/p47swinkton.htm

We went with D-25's.

D-40's and D-25's have identical performance without WEP.  With WEP, the D-40 has negligibly better performance.

(https://www.hitechcreations.com/components/com_ahplaneperf/genchart.php?p1=28&p2=27&pw=2&gtype=0&gui=localhost&itemsel=GameData)
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Oldman731 on March 23, 2020, 03:34:00 PM
D-40's and D-25's have identical performance without WEP.  With WEP, the D-40 has negligibly better performance.


My recollection was that the D40 had a significantly better climb rate on WEP.

But it's been awhile since I've flown one.

- oldman
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2020, 04:30:07 PM
About 200 fpm difference at lower alts.

(https://www.hitechcreations.com/components/com_ahplaneperf/genchart.php?p1=28&p2=27&pw=2&gtype=2&gui=localhost&itemsel=GameData)
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Hajo on March 23, 2020, 05:03:27 PM
Brooke a significant number of Razorbacks survived the war in combat including the D11.  The Jug had one of the lowest if not the lowest loss rate of any fighter/fighter bomber of the war.

Their loss rate was 0.7 percent in the ETO, which was matched against the Luftwaffe, not the significantly out classed IJN and IJA.  Their K/D in the ETO was 4.6 :1. A great accomplishment considering they went up against the best LW had to offer and along with the early 38s were first to see combat in that time frame eliminating the majority of the LWs' top aces.  The 56th started out by flying the C model.

Now I'm just suggesting that as Nef said in an earlier post there are holes in development which included paddle props.  I like the D25 but the D40 is faster under wep.  Alas, they were a bit to late to participate in this time frame.
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Oldman731 on March 23, 2020, 08:14:25 PM
About 200 fpm difference at lower alts.


I make that about a 300 fpm difference (granted, I was never the best in math).  I think that's about a 10% better climb rate, which is nothing to sniff at in a mortal moment.

- oldman
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 23, 2020, 09:44:43 PM
Out of the thousand scenario fights I've gotten into over the years, I don't remember even one where the difference between me losing and winning was 10% more climb rate.

Our climb rate is decent.  But at the altitudes we'll be fighting at, even if we had 10% more, we aren't going to be climbing away from 109's or D-9's.

Anyway, since we're using the plane types that were there, no D-40's -- or M's, or N's.

We'll be in D-25's.

I'm fine with it.

I'm flying a P-47D-25 myself, and eager to take it to Jerry.  :aok

It is a man's plane!  For real men, who fly in a manly fashion!  For men who would be lumberjacks or race-car drivers if not flying P-47's for the side of goodness and rightness!  :aok
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Oldman731 on March 23, 2020, 10:27:04 PM
I'm flying a P-47D-25 myself, and eager to take it to Jerry.
It is a man's plane!  For real men, who fly in a manly fashion! 


I agree with that much!

- oldman
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 24, 2020, 12:17:24 AM

I agree with that much!

- oldman

Oldman, are you going to fly a P-47 in the glorious and historic fight for the fate of Europe?
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Arlo on March 24, 2020, 01:39:46 AM
It is a man's plane!  For real men, who fly in a manly fashion!  For men who would be lumberjacks or race-car drivers if not flying P-47's for the side of goodness and rightness!  :aok



Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Oldman731 on March 24, 2020, 07:35:56 AM
Oldman, are you going to fly a P-47 in the glorious and historic fight for the fate of Europe?


Would love to.  But regret that I am never able to plan that far ahead.

- oldman
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 24, 2020, 12:46:35 PM
We'll make sure to get you one if you are there on game day.  :aok
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Hajo on March 24, 2020, 12:55:02 PM
If it's a Jug I'll be there no matter what.//And Brooke at altitude a Jug can climb better then all but the K4
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 24, 2020, 01:49:48 PM
If it's a Jug I'll be there no matter what.//And Brooke at altitude a Jug can climb better then all but the K4

That's why I put in "but at the altitudes we'll be fighting at."

This battle will have most of its fighting at mid-low alts.

It will be great and glorious!  :aok
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 24, 2020, 03:30:01 PM
Only two P-47 spots left.

One is yours!  :aok

For glory and country!  :aok
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Arlo on March 24, 2020, 03:43:38 PM
Only two P-47 spots left.

One is yours!  :aok

For glory and country!  :aok

(https://i.imgur.com/CwUVJ5w.png)
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 24, 2020, 03:50:04 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Brooke on March 28, 2020, 02:16:01 AM
Thunderbolts are full.

Thanks, folks!

(Arlo, I think your previous post did it.)
Title: Re: Only two Typhoons and three P-47's left -- one is for you because
Post by: Arlo on March 28, 2020, 10:24:50 AM
Thunderbolts are full.

Thanks, folks!

(Arlo, I think your previous post did it.)

Woohoo! (Some folk don't realize how military recruiting works.) ;)