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Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Toad on June 28, 2000, 03:14:00 AM: Well, now that Hristo has accepted Hangtime's invitation to duel the G10 against the P-51, it's time to place some bets.

Since Hristo allows as how LW pilots are "the best" in online sims and since the G10 has about a 1.4 ROC advantage and an unspecified, significant accleration advantage, it would seem that odds are in order.

So, I'll wager $30 against your $90 (3 to 1 in favor of Hristo) that Hangtime wins this "best out of 5" contest. They're flying in the MA and will be filming.

If Hristo wins, I'll send the $30 to HTC and you fly free for a month.

If Hangtime wins, you send $90 to HTC and they can buy good scotch with it. They deserve a little "water of life" after the job they've been doing.

So you can't lose...you fly free or you buy HTC some good scotch.

Who will take me up on it? Thinking I'll place two wagers right now.

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This should be fun.
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: leonid on June 28, 2000, 04:19:00 AM: Well, I've known Hristos for awhile now from our old WB h2h days, so I'll put down $90 he does the deed ...

Okay, Stoichkov, don't let me down (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Torquila on June 28, 2000, 04:26:00 AM: G10 can beat Hang's 51 with the proper pilot, im betting on Hristo.
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Nath-BDP on June 28, 2000, 04:30:00 AM: hi
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: -ammo- on June 28, 2000, 05:15:00 AM: Hmmm, $90, $30, that'll by alot of food for my Kids, put some expensive gas in my truck, buy me alot McDonalds Coffee......

no thanks.. you guys have at it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: StSanta on June 28, 2000, 05:42:00 AM: 3 to 1 odds?

Nah, unfair methinks. Both planes have their advantages and disadvantages. It is up to the pilots to use their advantages and force the enemy into a disadvantageous situation.

3 to 1, and Hangtime is current in the sim. Prop drag has changed 109 FM quite considerably, 1 month since Hristo last flew AH.

Still 3 to 1?

A 1 to 1 bet, I'd be in, but $90 is a small fortune for me.

If I was in, my money would be on my mentor Hristo for reasons of loyalty and skill (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Swager on June 28, 2000, 06:57:00 AM: 3 to 1!!

Kind of long odds! I mean Hangtime is a priemer Stang driver.

Is Hristo sitting on the runway for vulching, or does he get a chance to get off the ground?

HeHe (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Sharky on June 28, 2000, 09:34:00 AM: Wheeewwww,

Hristo in a 109g10 and Hangtime in a P-51. Well I see a draw coming up. Unless someone makes a real mistake they will be wheeling around each other until they're outta gas.

Sharky
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Hangtime on June 28, 2000, 09:45:00 AM: LOL..

No takers??...

'oh; ye of little faith'

I'm flyin a North American P51D Mustang.. big; silver, overwieght, under powered. The pilot is over weight and underpowered too. (cats excluded from the room )

The plane I'm facing wuz built by slaves and flown by gods. One or two 20mm from that nose gun are enuff to pluck my big target tulips wings...

And no takers?? Damnn.. what in hell happened to the Vegas bookmakers?

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Hang
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Kieren on June 28, 2000, 11:11:00 AM: Can't take that bet ($!), but if the 51 has to stay and duke it out, and the 109 pilot is good...

It should be fun to watch either way. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

BTW, what are the ROE? This one can be over after the merge, you know...

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Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Toad on June 28, 2000, 11:18:00 AM: All Right!

I accept the first two posted wagers, from Leonid and Torquila.

I will mail a check to HTC for $60 to cover these two guys' AH flying for 1 month each IF HRISTO WINS THE "BEST OF 5".

You guys each mail checks for $90 to HTC to use as they wish (intended for liquid refreshment)IF HANGTIME WINS "THE BEST OF FIVE".

Checks to be mailed to HTC within 5 days of the end of the duel.

Is this agreeable, Leonid and Torquila?
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: RAM on June 28, 2000, 11:34:00 AM: Heheh that would be nice!! to see Torquila as a payer customer!!!!

HRISTO PLEASEEE WIN THE DUEL!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Hangtime on June 28, 2000, 01:40:00 PM: ROE:

P51D vs 109G10. 10k merge; guns cold. Best of 5 kills. Main arena. 9:00am Eastern; Sunday morning. (15:00 zulu) Fuel; weapons pilots choice.

Yup. 10k. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Toad.. LOL.. you'ze a crazy bastid. You didn't call ESPN did yah?

Hang
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Toad on June 28, 2000, 01:43:00 PM: Hang,

Yah, ESPN says they're coming. I got Chuck Yeager for the analyst and Dennis Miller for color.

Actually, you win it and I start lobbying HTC to do my dad's B-25 as the next medium bomber. I figure 4 bottles of 18 year old MacAllan ought to be a good downpayment!

Luck to both of yas....but more luck to Hang!

Sorry I'm on the road for this one!
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: 1776 on June 28, 2000, 02:43:00 PM: POPCORN,PEANUTS,CRACKERJACKS HERE,POPCORN PEANUTS, CRACKERJACKS HERE!!!!!<tosses peanut pack to happy customer waiting for the action> GET YOUR POPCORN PEEEEANUTS HERE!!

I also claim the scrap metal consession too (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: NUTTZ on June 28, 2000, 06:03:00 PM: I'll put 30 down on Hangtime.... whos taking it?

NUTTZ
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: -aper- on June 28, 2000, 06:16:00 PM: This is going to become a professional sport (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Camel on June 28, 2000, 06:42:00 PM: Get'em Hang! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Cant wait for the films! Wish I could get it on pay perview, with Marve Alphert, "he shoots he scores" and Micheal Buffer "Lets get ready to RUMBLE", most of all for the hot chicks between rounds.
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Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Udie on June 28, 2000, 07:36:00 PM: Gambling is illegal in Tx! I'm telling on all of you!

udie
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Hangtime on June 28, 2000, 08:09:00 PM: Thanks for the kind words guys. <S!>

LOL Udie.. I was hopin you'd hold the bets.

Then it occured to me that you like beer even more than my cat.

So I nominated Yankee instead. And, since she's much prettier than you... it was no contest. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Hang
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Sharky on June 28, 2000, 08:23:00 PM: Hang,

Good Luck. Wipe the floor with him. You got a tough opponet but good ole American Iron and a little skullduggery will win the day I'm sure.

I see by your profile your in Long Island. I'm in Connecticut, we oughta get together and have a beer sometime.

Sharky
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Toad on June 28, 2000, 09:21:00 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Udie:
Gambling is illegal in Tx! I'm telling on all of you!

udie

I don't live in Texas.

Leonid, Torquila...you agree to the terms? It's a bet?

I got my two takers...who's gonna cover Nuttz? Where are all those brave LW's? You guys got the advantage here, in spades!
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: eye on June 28, 2000, 09:25:00 PM: Im not beting there both good. That said a 51 can break off at any time from a g10. He could just run and hristo would just have to watch till he runs out of gas.
Roc would win a dog fight but a smart 51 pilot never climbs with a 109.
This is a mexican standoff.
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Minotaur on June 28, 2000, 09:48:00 PM: Good luck to any one involved. I just hope this blows over soon so we can get back to our normal insulting and abusive style of talking schmack. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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The Wrecking Crew

"You mess with the Bull, you get the horn."
Minotaur
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: 1776 on June 28, 2000, 10:27:00 PM: POPCORN, PEANUTS, CRACKER JACKS, GET YOUR POPCORN, PEANUTS AND CRAKERJACKS HERE!!!!
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Thunder on June 28, 2000, 10:29:00 PM: Minotaur makes an excellent point here so why wait hehe! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Hristo's going to get his lunch handed too him if he doesn't claim to get sick, have a flat tire on the way to the duel or the dog didn't eat his dueling plan. Hristo is a fine Luftberry pilot but down deep every cyber Lufberry junky knows there is no finer ride than a Packerd-Merlin Pony! HangTime will walk away victorious, I just hope he plays with Hristo just a bit to make it more amusing. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)

Thunder

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Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: leonid on June 29, 2000, 12:14:00 AM: Toad,
You're on , and it's a bet per your conditions!

Hang, I love ya, man, but I'm looking forward to that free month of AH (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)

<S>

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Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Hangtime on June 29, 2000, 12:58:00 AM: I keep thinkin about the $180.00 bucks worth of scotch the boys at HTC are gonna get outta this.

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Hang
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Hairball on June 29, 2000, 01:02:00 AM: And I'm thinkin that if fat boy looses; I'm hoppin the first freight to Texas fer some of that scotch.

Hairball
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Torquila on June 29, 2000, 05:33:00 AM: I will accept that bet Toad, but I am im spain right now and im returning in 5 weeks so if hang wins i cant pay till i get back. But if Hristos wins dont send my 30 dalla's till im back :P
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Duckwing6 on June 29, 2000, 06:58:00 AM: Oh darn i'll be not able to watch this ... Can someone make a film of it pls (BRENDOOOOOOO!!!!! please this could be the ultimate AH video (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif))

DW6
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Ghosth on June 29, 2000, 09:19:00 AM: I'm with Hang on this one but I just don't have 30$ to spend.

Any Hristo backers in the same boat?

I'd even go so far as to switch to country of your choice for a TOD.
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Ripsnort on June 29, 2000, 09:38:00 AM: Love ya dearly, Hang, but, may I have the honor of reading you your last rights? Hopefully my puter will be back in shape by Sunday, I get up on week-ends at 5:30am...I can read you your last rights then (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

BTW, you should do it in SEA, and make sure no one interferes, let them read the buffer, but A/C in the vicinity could hose your fight up.
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: RAM on June 29, 2000, 09:46:00 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Torquila:
I will accept that bet Toad, but I am im spain right now and im returning in 5 weeks so if hang wins i cant pay till i get back. But if Hristos wins dont send my 30 dalla's till im back :P

Impressive, you told me you werent able to pay 30 bucks a month for AH and now you come and bet... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

BTW in wich part of Spain are you? I'm spanish and I can tell you a couple of good bars in each city (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Torquila on June 29, 2000, 11:59:00 AM: Simple RAM, i cant afford it now but in 5 weeks i will definetly have the money ;P
And BTW im in the South of Spain Near the Gebralter area .

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Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Ripsnort on June 29, 2000, 12:07:00 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Torquila:
Gebralter area .

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Umm, Gibraltar I believe...you're not native there are you? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Kirin on June 29, 2000, 12:44:00 PM: Horrido...

30 bucks on Hristo, master of the skies!! I just don't like the 1:3 thingie!!! Make it 1:1 and I am in!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

p.s.: Hristo can ya ship me a piece of Hangtimes Pony after it's over? Got some room free over the fireplace! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

~Kirin~
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JG2 "Richthofen" (http://www.busprod.com/weazel2/home.htm)

"Ich bin immer nur die Messerschmitt 109 geflogen, aller Varianten angefangen von der G-6 bis hin zur K-14. Die Gustav war weitaus kraftvoller als die Friedrich, und hinzu kam die weitaus schwerere Bewaffnung. Die G-10 zum Beispiel hatte eine 30 mm Kanone mit absolut zerstörerirscher Wirkung. Sie war auch die schnellste aller G-Serien, mit einer exzellenten Steigrate, und war in sämtlichen Flugbereichen ausgezeichnet zu fliegen. Ich fühlte mich in meiner 'Beule' immer zuhause und Herr über alle Situationen."
Hauptmann Erich Hartmann, Gruppenkommandeur, I./JG 52, Russische Front, 1945

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Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: RAM on June 29, 2000, 01:10:00 PM: Umm..near Gibraltar?...You mean ALgeciras?. Well I know a couple of bars in Granada and Sevilla. If you go there you'll surely have some good times.

I take your word...you say in 5 weeks you'll be a paying customer. WTG!. But remeber that the month that you win with Hristo's duel doesnt count (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Crapgame on June 29, 2000, 02:36:00 PM: Thunder...thunder....

Have you learned nothing from our long association? The finest ride in the sky is a Pratt and Whitney, radial powered Jug. The pony is purty...but come now the real beast of the skies is the Jug... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Naturally I have to throw my allegiance to Hangtime in the upcoming duel. Can't be rooting for Loosewaffles now..
<S>

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Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Toad on June 30, 2000, 06:29:00 PM: Leonid, Torquila..

It's a bet then.

If necessary, I'm sure HTC will hold the check till you call for the account Torquila.

If necessary. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Toad on July 02, 2000, 01:50:00 PM: Leonid, Torquila

Will send the check to HTC with instructions to credit $30 to your account.

Torquila, will tell them to hold yours till you E-Mail or call.

The films are interesting. I think this could have gone either way.

When is the rematch? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Nash on May 29, 2001, 07:54:00 AM: Soon, Toad. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Hangtime on May 29, 2001, 08:08:00 AM: Ahhh the memories... *shudder* *twitch*

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Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: MrSiD on May 29, 2001, 08:09:00 AM: Each time I've met hristo 1:1 he left running after a couple turns crying for his squaddies. My bet (although I don't gamble) is on hangtime.
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Pongo on May 29, 2001, 09:56:00 AM: Quote
Originally posted by MrSiD:
Each time I've met hristo 1:1 he left running after a couple turns crying for his squaddies. My bet (although I don't gamble) is on hangtime.

Well I dont gamble either...so I will take that bet bud.
look at the dates on the posts (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Seahawk on May 29, 2001, 03:04:00 PM: I'm wondering, still no fight?
Who win?
Where is the Film??

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Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Hristo on May 29, 2001, 05:03:00 PM: Quote
Originally posted by MrSiD:
Each time I've met hristo 1:1 he left running after a couple turns crying for his squaddies. My bet (although I don't gamble) is on hangtime.

Dweeb, you registered in September 2000. I stopped playing AH in summer 2000. Those facts make you a...liar.

Go suck a MK 108 round (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Hangtime on May 29, 2001, 07:33:00 PM: LOL Hristo... he's got yah pegged. And he's been around as long as us. I suspect he never bothered to join the BBS, or he had a diff member name for the boards...

In any case.. how the hell are yah, and how's things going there in the Middle Kingdom? Hope all is well.. and hope to see yah up in these unfriendly skies soon.

<S!>

btw.. Hristo and I flew this duel about a year ago.. he won, 3 to 2 tho if I remember correctly it was one heluva fight... before, during and after the duel. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Hang

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Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: sax on May 29, 2001, 07:56:00 PM: Hang, anyone who has dueled you, wouldn't bet against you.

Sax
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Seahawk on May 30, 2001, 05:59:00 AM: ==========================
btw.. Hristo and I flew this duel about a year ago.. he won, 3 to 2 tho if I remember correctly it was one heluva fight... before, during and after the duel. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Anyone still has the film ?? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/confused.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Hobodog on May 30, 2001, 01:17:00 PM: Well first off i would have to go with Hang cuz i just like that pony. But then i think about HRisto is prob. the best luftwabbles since Richthofen. Since Hangs a bish i guess i go with him. IM a religious man like all bishops. OH and hang might not wanna leave the money with YANKEE you forgot shes in texas too. Plus SUPERFLY will talk her into jsut giving him the money then what will. happen. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Wagering on "The Duel"
Post by: Hangtime on May 30, 2001, 04:35:00 PM: Seahawk.. I got a zipped file copy of the duel films, tho I have no website to mount them on, and I have no idea if the current versions film viewer will run film from version 1.0..

Anybody know off hand if this is worth pursuing? If so; I'll email the zipped file out..

Hang