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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hazmatt on May 10, 2020, 04:08:11 PM
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I remember having lots of fun in the early and mid war arenas back in the day.
The small maps and limited plane sets were a blast. I'm curious if anybody else missed them.
Also it seems that it would be easy to setup with the current ability to set up your own room. I'd be willing to set it up if somebody could tell me where to find those small maps and how to set up the plane sets.
Or maybe HiTech could bring it back so it would be up all the time?
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I would be down for some early war fights.
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Unless the population grows and it shows more interest than when we had those arenas (they were never very populated) then the AvA may end up being your best bet to get more early and mid war experience. Just sayin'.
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Would have preferred them on maps with about 6 bases on each side. I though the MA style map was too big. Still don't know if that would have gained enough action to keep the arena populated though.
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I enjoyed those arenas too hazmatt. If you haven't already, stop by the AvA tonight (Monday) 8pm EST. There will be a mid-war plane set running. We could run an early war setup similar to that on a different week night if there's enough interest.
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MW was the best plane set
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MW was the best plane set
Tbh, I wish the MW plane set were the main rides in the MA and all late war planes were perked. Would see much better fights.
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Tbh, I wish the MW plane set were the main rides in the MA and all late war planes were perked. Would see much better fights.
This!!!
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Tbh, I wish the MW plane set were the main rides in the MA and all late war planes were perked. Would see much better fights.
The cry's would increase on this forum.
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The cry's would increase on this forum.
How true! Yet I wonder if there's not something worthwhile in the notion of having to do extra work to get the 1945 plane set. After all, there's a functional version of every major fighter and bomber type in the midwar set - except for the Japanese, who lose the George and Frank.
- oldman
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I wish I could. I work Friday through Tuesday so I miss all the events :(
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The cry's would increase on this forum.
Meh... the tanks have tiered perk cost, why don't the planes? The top fighter aircraft in the game are over bearing. 5 or 10 perks really wouldn't hurt. I was fighting in a furball the other day. There were 4-6 yak3s and 3-4 La7s, among the furballers. Its really getting old TBH. There just really isn't any balance anymore. Either fly the best fastest fighter in the game or get ganged by 3 yak3s every sortie. Thats where the MA is at right now.
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Either fly the best fastest fighter in the game or get ganged by 3 yak3s every sortie. Thats where the MA is at right now.
That's the truth. I'm surprised anybody flies anything pre 44 in the MA due to this.
I find that if I'm not in something fast that I spend most of my time chasing stuff I can't catch.
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The cry's would increase on this forum.
The fights would increase in the game. Its a bandaid though. Smaller maps and limits to resupply for a newly captured base only. Crazy how many people will jump in supp trucks before the base is even white flagged.
We used to use planes and tanks to hold a base.
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Crazy how many people will jump in supp trucks before the base is even white flagged.
We used to use planes and tanks to hold a base.
Indeed. It's very lame. Took me a few months after getting back to realize this was happening.
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Yep
I miss the MW arena.
Hard to put my finger on why, but first thing to occur to me was that the more even planeset made it more about the man than the machine.
There must have been other reasons because I just had so much fun in there.
Badboy
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Yep
I miss the MW arena.
Hard to put my finger on why, but first thing to occur to me was that the more even planeset made it more about the man than the machine.
There must have been other reasons because I just had so much fun in there.
Badboy
This could be obtained in the Melee by modifying ENY and perk values. I guess that is my opinion.
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The fights would increase in the game. Its a bandaid though. Smaller maps and limits to resupply for a newly captured base only. Crazy how many people will jump in supp trucks before the base is even white flagged.
We used to use planes and tanks to hold a base.
Well when you have the likes of Notar coming in NOE WF town/deack in one pass, goon/m3 at the map room you have to do something. Not blaming Notar, just he has fine tuned a capture technique that is difficult to counter act in a timely manner. :D
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The maps are large enough that certain bases within ma could be restricted to earlier planes
These bases would be located far enough away from later plane bases as to make it time restrictive to interfere
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Eagler
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I was one of the regular in Mid War. There was always the same bunch more or less. Around 30 players total at the time. You had to play all facets of the game, fighters, bombers, gv's. And the plane set was very equal. Hell the perk planes were Spit8 and Typhoon. I miss it a lot. Like Hazmat said, now if you try to fly something from mid, you always trying to catch something that will not turn to fight.
Black70
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I wish I could. I work Friday through Tuesday so I miss all the events :(
KOTH , usually 2nd Saturday of the month, dog fights dog fights dog fights
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KOTH , usually 2nd Saturday of the month, dog fights dog fights dog fights
Um, I work: "Friday through Tuesday" That includes Saturday...
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Um, I work: "Friday through Tuesday" That includes Saturday...
I sure read that bass ackwards, didn’t I.
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let's have a three parallel arenas, early, mid and late war. You have to win two out of three to win the war :) Put them all three on one map so that one doesn't jump arenas...
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I sure read that bass ackwards, didn’t I.
I like that song
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Yep
I miss the MW arena.
Hard to put my finger on why, but first thing to occur to me was that the more even planeset made it more about the man than the machine.
There must have been other reasons because I just had so much fun in there.
Badboy
The quality of fights were also better and it was much easier to find 1v1 fights, or at fights that weren't gang fests.
I also agree that the plane set did tend to favor the skill of the player over the plane. In MW's heyday, the top killer was the P-38J, far out numbering the #2 fighter and the P-38J's numbers were a direct result of 3 players. Those three players made up about 70% of all kills in the P-38J, while only making up less than 10% of all deaths in the Lightning.
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MW had a better balanced overall plane set (P51B excluded) making it a great place to fly. Sad though that only once the LW broke and all of us had to fly in there.
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Mid War was great, but then I always preferred Axis vs Allies when it had the numbers.
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We had sorta of a club on Weds. nights some years back. When we had certain people on from all countries we would go to the MW arean and just fight. Toad, Shamus myself and others would just go and have good sized dog fights with an altitude limit of 5K. The P47D11 did very well there if it weren't overloaded with full fuel tanks. Miss those days. We called ourselves "The every other Weds. night fight club."
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The Breakfast Club was good too, miss it much
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MNM is the closest thing to a mid war plane set these days
It was a blast again last night
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Eagler
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Early War arena's would give the early bird's a chance to engage in combat with out being swooped by the high performance of late war bird's. Even in the present arena's' I sometimes use early war planes but that's my choice. Early War would be like FSO, where you fight against planes of the same era.
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In my entire time here I never once saw anyone in MW or EW that wasn't farming perks unopposed. If they found opposition they'd bail and move to the other side of the map or log. If you switched they'd move back and the side switch timer wouldn't allow you to get back to them.
Maybe if the arenas didn't have a common perk pool it would've developed into something better.
I definitely don't think having EW and MW back would be any good with the current numbers. The last thing we need is to split the player base.
Wiley.
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In my entire time here I never once saw anyone in MW or EW that wasn't farming perks unopposed. If they found opposition they'd bail and move to the other side of the map or log. If you switched they'd move back and the side switch timer wouldn't allow you to get back to them.
Noob.
EW and MW were nice arenas for quite some time. More people were interested in the MW plane set than in EW's, so MW lasted longer. The behavior you so accurately describe here brought a pretty quick end to both of them. I agree with you that permitting EW and MW perks to apply in the LW arena was a blunder which contributed to the demise.
- oldman
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In my entire time here I never once saw anyone in MW or EW that wasn't farming perks unopposed. If they found opposition they'd bail and move to the other side of the map or log. If you switched they'd move back and the side switch timer wouldn't allow you to get back to them.
Maybe if the arenas didn't have a common perk pool it would've developed into something better.
I definitely don't think having EW and MW back would be any good with the current numbers. The last thing we need is to split the player base.
Wiley.
Noob.
EW and MW were nice arenas for quite some time. More people were interested in the MW plane set than in EW's, so MW lasted longer. The behavior you so accurately describe here brought a pretty quick end to both of them. I agree with you that permitting EW and MW perks to apply in the LW arena was a blunder which contributed to the demise.
- oldman
The maps were just too big. A much smaller map with closer bases would have brought more people in there.
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Tbh, I wish the MW plane set were the main rides in the MA and all late war planes were perked. Would see much better fights.
+1 Although i say this with a Caveat...I am better now a days, and with he lower numbers...would be fine with me(NOW :uhoh)
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The cry's would increase on this forum.
More than likely :bhead Being said however....Dont think it needs to be OVERLY Perked? How hard would it be for P-51d,La-7,Yak-3, Spit XVI,Spit XIV, 47m flyers to earn perks quick enough, to just be a bump in the road? I would love to see a "Rolling Perk Value" (per ENY Values) rather than eliminating Planes by ENY...JMHO ENY has an adverse impact on players these days...it seems? Cant fly my BIRD...F this, and logs. Most players never use Perk planes, at least I hear statements to that effect. Whats the point of earning Perks..if they go un used? Heck...most players already have enough "Fighter/Bmber" Perks to go into infinity with ANY Perk costs. I know I do :uhoh
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In my entire time here I never once saw anyone in MW or EW that wasn't farming perks unopposed. If they found opposition they'd bail and move to the other side of the map or log. If you switched they'd move back and the side switch timer wouldn't allow you to get back to them.
Maybe if the arenas didn't have a common perk pool it would've developed into something better.
I definitely don't think having EW and MW back would be any good with the current numbers. The last thing we need is to split the player base.
Wiley.
Then you were not paying attention. It had the best fights going. Depended on cartoon pilots and not so much on planes.
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In my entire time here I never once saw anyone in MW or EW that wasn't farming perks unopposed. If they found opposition they'd bail and move to the other side of the map or log. If you switched they'd move back and the side switch timer wouldn't allow you to get back to them.
Maybe if the arenas didn't have a common perk pool it would've developed into something better.
I definitely don't think having EW and MW back would be any good with the current numbers. The last thing we need is to split the player base.
Wiley.
You didn't spend enough time in there if that is what you "saw". The majority of players in MW were not perk farming, now we did go AFTER the perk farmers when they came in as much as possible. I remember one player came in to complete the Supply Train achievement at one of our Strats, I went and killed him 2 times, the last time I got a nasty PM for interfering with his farming. I told him if he attacks my strats I will defend. He logged.
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In my entire time here I never once saw anyone in MW or EW that wasn't farming perks unopposed. If they found opposition they'd bail and move to the other side of the map or log. If you switched they'd move back and the side switch timer wouldn't allow you to get back to them.
Maybe if the arenas didn't have a common perk pool it would've developed into something better.
I definitely don't think having EW and MW back would be any good with the current numbers. The last thing we need is to split the player base.
Wiley.
Wiley, I started playing back in 2010, and MW was a blast most nights with only 40-50 players. Most of us were on one of 2 sides (Rook and Knight, I believe). I played in MW almost exclusively for my first year.