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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Vraciu on July 11, 2020, 12:20:35 AM
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Thanks to Lyric1 for finding the info on the fate of this Mustang and the name of its pilot to go along with a very-high resolution photo of the airplane in question (and other images used in drawing the nose art) that he tracked down, and to Devil505 for his input on the color of the markings on the aircraft.
Lt. Harold H. Marx
P-51D-25-NA "Tiny ‘Gay Baba’" (231)
S/N 44-63955
21st FG, 46th FS
Central Field, Iwo Jima - Summer 1945
This is the P-51D-25-NA "Tiny 'Gay Baba'"* (s/n 44-63955) of the 46th Ftr Sq, 21st FG out of Iwo Jima's Central Field. The aircraft itself was lost in a midair collision on 21 September 1945, 40 miles southeast of Iwo Jima, with LT Harold H. Marx at the controls.
The 21st FG was one of the VLR (Very-Long Range) P-51 Groups stationed on Iwo Jima beginning with its deployment by ship to the island in February 1945.
The 21st began flying patrols that same month with the final group echelon arriving on 25 March. The next morning, elements of the 21st were attacked in their encampment by Japanese commandos. With the assistance of American Marines, 21st personnel counterattacked and in the tent-by-tent fighting killed 250 of the enemy. Fourteen Group personnel were killed and fifty, including 21 FG commander Colonel Kenneth R. Powell, were wounded.
The first escort mission to Japan was flown on April 7th and this mission marked the first time fighters had escorted bombers over Japan. This particular raid on the Nakajima aircraft factory near Tokyo was the longest over-water mission flown up to that point in the war and would earn the group the Distinguished Unit Citation. The 21st flew its last mission on 14 August 1945, about two weeks before the official Japanese capitulation on 2 September.
This skin is the second in my series of VLR Mustangs used in the Pacific Theater.
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* Spelled and punctuated: Tiny “Gay Baba”
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Very nice! I like it!
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Very nice! I like it!
Thank you, sir! :salute
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Nice one V.. :aok
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Nice one V.. :aok
Thank you, sir. :salute
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Nice skin and an interesting story Vraciu.
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She's a beaut.
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Great looking metal - underside shot caught the sun just right.
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Thanks guys. I always notice things to fix after I post images. I'll make a few minor adjustments then off for Greebo to review. (Sorry for the typos in the narrative. I didn't proofread it before I went to bed. It was late. Lol.)
One history of the Group says the attack by Japanese soldiers took place on the night of 26/27 March 1945, and yet the pilots were still able to make their combat debut (on 27 March) - an attack on a Japanese airfield on Haha Jima.
Ivan E. Prall was there and said the attack was early on 26 March. His narrative is fascinating:
https://www.historynet.com/final-spasm-on-sulfur-island.htm
So they either flew their first mission the day of or the day after the raid. Pretty amazing grit either way.
:salute :cheers:
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That belly pic could not have been taken better....
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That belly pic could not have been taken better....
Thanks, man. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and then. Ha ha.
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Great job V.!
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Great job V.!
Thanks, bruh. :salute
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Hi guys,
Newbie here invited by Vraciu, as he reached out to me with some questions on a 506th FG Mustang. While I'm not really into the flight sim stuff and this game YET, I do hope to be soon. I am an avid WWII collector, focusing in on US aviation, and am historian for the 506th FG, also focusing on the 7th AAF, especially the other Mustang groups (15th and 21st). I sent Vraciu some info on this aircraft, as we believe it to be #234 not 231.
I came across the post which I naturally graviated towards because of it's content, but I will say that looking around I am very impressed with your knowledge and strive for details here. Very cool.
I hope to maybe play the game soon :-) but also help contribute where I can to getting it 'right'.
Nice to meet you all.
Brian
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Hi guys,
Newbie here invited by Vraciu, as he reached out to me with some questions on a 506th FG Mustang. While I'm not really into the flight sim stuff and this game YET, I do hope to be soon. I am an avid WWII collector, focusing in on US aviation, and am historian for the 506th FG, also focusing on the 7th AAF, especially the other Mustang groups (15th and 21st). I sent Vraciu some info on this aircraft, as we believe it to be #234 not 231.
I came across the post which I naturally graviated towards because of it's content, but I will say that looking around I am very impressed with your knowledge and strive for details here. Very cool.
I hope to maybe play the game soon :-) but also help contribute where I can to getting it 'right'.
Nice to meet you all.
Brian
Welcome aboard, sir. Glad to see you here.
I received your images and am posting them below. You are dead right. It's a 4 not a 1. You can definitely see it in both images (in the larger one it's poking out behind the gentleman's right knee/in front of the left thigh). I'll add that to the list of things to fix on the next update. Very good eye. Thanks a lot.
I'm happy to see you here. You will be a big help to us and I know I speak for everyone when I say that we hope to get you into the virtual skies, soon. :salute
And to the rest of you on here feel free to check out Waltz41's site.
http://www.506thfightergroup.org/
Some really neat stuff over there. They've got me on a VLR Mustang kick right now. :banana:
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Hi guys,
Newbie here invited by Vraciu, ......
I hope to maybe play the game soon :-) but also help contribute where I can to getting it 'right'.
Nice to meet you all.
Brian
Hey Waltz,
Welcome to our BBS! Hope find this game enticing enough to jump in. I highly recommend some time with a trainer to help get you started. Growing up as the son of a guy who got his career start in Navy aviation at the end of WW2 I found myself sucked into WW2 flight sims back in the 90's, and they have been a regular pastime activity on and off, ever since....I find endless challenge and fun in this game and all I do is fly fighters. As a WW2 buff you may particularly find, as I do, the historical scenarios appealing. Friday Squad night operations are also great for a more historic feel with historic plane matchups. Many squads are looking for new players and are a great avenue to help learn the game. Hope to see you in game soon! :salute
-DaddyAce
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Hi Waltz41,
Welcome aboard! Glad you found our community and hope to see you in the virtual skies before long!
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Hi guys,
Newbie here invited by Vraciu, as he reached out to me with some questions on a 506th FG Mustang. While I'm not really into the flight sim stuff and this game YET, I do hope to be soon. I am an avid WWII collector, focusing in on US aviation, and am historian for the 506th FG, also focusing on the 7th AAF, especially the other Mustang groups (15th and 21st). I sent Vraciu some info on this aircraft, as we believe it to be #234 not 231.
I came across the post which I naturally graviated towards because of it's content, but I will say that looking around I am very impressed with your knowledge and strive for details here. Very cool.
I hope to maybe play the game soon :-) but also help contribute where I can to getting it 'right'.
Nice to meet you all.
Brian
Brian,
We always enjoy having knowledgeable folks drop in and visit. The skinners here appreciate anything you can bring to the table that would help with the accuracy of their work.
Don't be a stranger. Visit often. If you decide to try out AHIII, we can help you get started on your next addiction.
Welcome to the boards :salute
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Hi guys,
Newbie here invited by Vraciu, as he reached out to me with some questions on a 506th FG Mustang. While I'm not really into the flight sim stuff and this game YET, I do hope to be soon. I am an avid WWII collector, focusing in on US aviation, and am historian for the 506th FG, also focusing on the 7th AAF, especially the other Mustang groups (15th and 21st). I sent Vraciu some info on this aircraft, as we believe it to be #234 not 231.
I came across the post which I naturally graviated towards because of it's content, but I will say that looking around I am very impressed with your knowledge and strive for details here. Very cool.
I hope to maybe play the game soon :-) but also help contribute where I can to getting it 'right'.
Nice to meet you all.
Brian
Funny to run into you here Brian 😀. Sucked in by the 506th Mustang skin? Iwo Mustangs in general? I’ve been a cartoon pilot here for a long time. When you get the itch to fly it give me a shout out. Wear that Garrison B10 for your first flight 😀
I do claim some responsibility for Brian’s Iwo Mustang obsession 🙂
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Welcome Waltz.
:cheers:
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Welcome to the forum Waltz.
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Funny to run into you here Brian 😀. Sucked in by the 506th Mustang skin? Iwo Mustangs in general? I’ve been a cartoon pilot here for a long time. When you get the itch to fly it give me a shout out. Wear that Garrison B10 for your first flight 😀
I do claim some responsibility for Brian’s Iwo Mustang obsession 🙂
Whoa, hey Dan!! I just decided to take a look after Vraciu messaged our 506th group with some questions for an aircraft. We got to talking, and introduced me to this board.
For everyone else, Dan is a WWII collector like myself, and graciously gave me a nice grouping belonging to a 72nd FS, 21st FG pilot, including his B10 jacket. I did end up getting Dan a new B10 for his collection, but his amazing, selfless act still makes me smile and thankful. Dan also was into the 506th and Iwo P-51 stuff before I fully jumped in.
Glad to be here everybody,....I literally need another 'hobby' like I need a hole in the head, but...I have been wanting to do a flight sim for a while. This seems like perfect for me to start out with.
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Welcome sir!
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Welcome to the boards! The skinners in here do a great job of preserving the history of some of our favorite planes. I'm sure you'll be a great added resource.
Now if you do decide to enter the game..........look for an old man flying around in a P47D-11.
Again welcome aboard to our community Waltz. Enjoy.
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Hello Waltz, this probably my favorite section of the board. Look forward to hearing what history you add to this section. If anything in the knowledge bank crosses over with F4U’s, particularly Navy with pirate flags I know someone that would be interested.
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Thank you everyone. I think it's a 'must' that I get involved in flying soon haha.
Spikes, special shout out to your avatar lol.
I will check out the forum, I need to check into what is needed to make this a 'go' for me.
And I will help in anyway I can with the skins and history!
Thanks all! Glad to be aboard.
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Spikes was into studying seismic activity well before he met that girl. She claimed that she could detect the pressure and magnitude of any earthquake worldwide before it even happened. He has been studying her ever since.
True story.
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Spikes was into studying seismic activity well before he met that girl. She claimed that she could detect the pressure and magnitude of any earthquake worldwide before it even happened. He has been studying her ever since.
True story.
:rofl
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Beautiful. Your metal is fantastic. Amazed at what this game and its skinners have been able to do with metal work. You get my vote.
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Thank you, PC. Much appreciated.
I need to correct the technical details. This aircraft is a P-51D-20-NA, not a -25.
Lt. Harold H. Marx
P-51D-20-NA "Tiny ‘Gay Baba’" (234)
S/N 44-63955
21st FG, 46th FS
Central Field, Iwo Jima - Summer 1945
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This is just a for-the-record post. I've updated the skin with the correct side number. 234 not 231.
Good catch by Waltz.
Hard to believe I need to do a metal update already. Seems like I just skinned this yesterday.
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Lt. Harold H. Marx
P-51D-20-NA "Tiny ‘Gay Baba’" (234)
S/N 44-63955
21st FG, 46th FS
Central Field, Iwo Jima - Summer 1945
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Looking good!!! :rock
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Thanks guys. I'll do a more thorough update to it later but at least the side number is right now.
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Great job on the update Vraciu.
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Beautiful skin, Vraciu. The bare metal looks great.
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Thanks Oboe. Gonna tweak it again later but this will do for now. It's amazing how many long-accepted errors get busted by the people on this forum.