The next video cards will require a new MB. They will not work on your current slots. ...... or so I read.
Actually they shouldn't have any problems running on the last few generations of PCIe. To use PCIe gen 4 you need to have one of the latest motherboards like the amd X570 or some of the intel z490 boards however you can put a PCIe 4 Video card in a PCIe x16 gen 3 or 2 slot you just wont get the full bandwidth.
Here ya go. Showed up in my inbox yesterday. EVGA https://www.evga.com/r.asp?id=31850
Pretty picture. I didn't feel like trying to find pricing/availability etc. :cheers:
I hear the 3070 is going for $500 the 3080 $700 AND THE 3090 $1300 However, these prices may be artificially inflated due to demand and low production upon release.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Drano on September 02, 2020, 06:40:37 PM
Watched part of a live stream MSI did this morning to intro their new 30 series cards. They were saying the GamingX and Ventus versions of the 3090 would be out the 17th, the 3080 the 24th and the others yet TBA. I'd guess around black Friday.
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Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Meatwad on September 02, 2020, 08:00:29 PM
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: BoilerDown on September 02, 2020, 10:25:51 PM
Looking forward, haven't decided yet between 3090, 3080 and 3070. Will wait for performance reviews. Also will probably wait for the next gen Ryzens (end of year supposedly), so that the early jacked up prices will have a chance to come down and I'll be able to select one with a better cooling solution.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Eagler on September 03, 2020, 06:01:16 AM
Bitcoin miners will drive up the prices while driving down the inventory
Only good news here is that the 2080ti might drop back down to earth in its pricing
Eagler
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: whiteman on September 03, 2020, 02:44:13 PM
just got a 2080 ti a month ago, oh well this is a never ending cycle anyways.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Lusche on September 03, 2020, 04:11:37 PM
Only good news here is that the 2080ti might drop back down to earth in its pricing
All of a sudden the local classified ads websites over here are full of people trying to get rid of their 2080's and 2070's. Obviously they fear a huge price drop on the second hand market.
Hopefully this develops into a real panic, this way I maybe can get a better card than the 1660 Super I am currently looking at :D
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Mayhem on September 03, 2020, 06:29:40 PM
Bitcoin miners will drive up the prices while driving down the inventory
Only good news here is that the 2080ti might drop back down to earth in its pricing
Eagler
The reason the 2080 is so expensive is that they stopped producing them months ago so they could start producing 3080 cards. This is why almost every PC Hardware sites have been saying DON'T BY A 20X0 right now.
The same thing happened to the 1080ti. I purchased mine new in 2017 for $750 this was after coming down after the mining rush. However by 2018 right before the 2080 cards release it shot back up to over $1000 USD and stayed that way right pass the release of the 20x0 series it still currently sits higher than a 2070 on the Tom's Hardware GPU Hierarchy for 2020.
Cryptocurrency Mining for Joe user has pretty much gone away in favor of much larger Corporate level of Cryptocurrency mining operations since around 2018.
However, I would also like to point out the current pandemic problem is creating a hole new slew of problems causing the artificial inflation of price and price gouging on electronics as of late.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 04, 2020, 03:42:43 AM
Looking forward, haven't decided yet between 3090, 3080 and 3070. Will wait for performance reviews. Also will probably wait for the next gen Ryzens (end of year supposedly), so that the early jacked up prices will have a chance to come down and I'll be able to select one with a better cooling solution.
For the price it looks like the 3070 is the one to beat. It's going to be far less than the 3080 and 3090, not need the new 12pin connector and will outperform the 2070 Super/Ti and the 2080 Super/Ti.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Drano on September 04, 2020, 06:13:54 AM
As far as the 12-pin connector goes, on the MSI stream I watched they're using a 3 8-pin arrangement on their cards instead. Keeping it simple for the user. My last few cards have been MSI. I've had good luck with them. Good cooling on the gaming series cards too.
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Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Denniss on September 06, 2020, 06:11:52 AM
Same here in europe, large influx of Turing cards on the used market/Ebay. And those that bought the overprized cards anew during the last months are probably biting in their back for wasting a lot of money instead of waiting a bit. But for the RTX3000 better wait for reputable tests showing their improvements over Turing (or not). 300W+ is nothing I would buy for my rig.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Shuffler on September 06, 2020, 11:13:36 AM
Same here in europe, large influx of Turing cards on the used market/Ebay. And those that bought the overprized cards anew during the last months are probably biting in their back for wasting a lot of money instead of waiting a bit. But for the RTX3000 better wait for reputable tests showing their improvements over Turing (or not). 300W+ is nothing I would buy for my rig.
Not uncommon for folks to have a 1000 watt psu these days.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Arlo on September 06, 2020, 11:15:03 AM
nice for Winter but really bad in Summer. With a real 1000W PSU one can feed 2x 3090 so why is someone buying such a beast?
I'm running two 750W PSUs, and it will be a step down to run two 3090s. I think the better choice is the 3070, or 3080, unless you need real-time rendering in a modeling program.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Shuffler on September 06, 2020, 11:52:33 PM
I have a 1000 watt in my old system.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: atlau on September 07, 2020, 12:14:12 AM
Wait my understanding was even if you have a 1000w PSU its not constantly drawing that much power. And in fact if you are only using 500w for example you may be operating in more efficient range for that specific PSU.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Chalenge on September 07, 2020, 11:46:24 PM
Wait my understanding was even if you have a 1000w PSU its not constantly drawing that much power. And in fact if you are only using 500w for example you may be operating in more efficient range for that specific PSU.
You have to know the entire architecture of the system. I use a dozen drives and fans also, which drives power requirements higher. There are power planning apps that take the guesswork out of it.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: bortas1 on September 11, 2020, 07:06:23 PM
:salute I have a 1070 nidia with a max hero 8 could i just switch them out and that would work? :salute
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Chalenge on September 12, 2020, 01:39:16 AM
bortas, you're going to want to wait and see what the power requirements of the 3070 will be. The good news is that if you can just replace the GPU that your experience is going to be night and day, by all accounts so far.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Mayhem on September 12, 2020, 02:40:02 AM
I would consider using a PC Power Supply Calculator.
Like the one at new egg. https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator/
Seasonic has a really good one to .... https://seasonic.com/wattage-calculator
You can look up a few.
I'm running a Corsair AX850 850W Titanium Cert power supply with a single 12v rail. I shouldn't have a problem with a single 3080 or 3090.
Keep in mind your efficiency rating.
Also remember make sure you check how many 12v Rails your power supply has and how many amps per rail. I ran into this problem years ago with an Antec modular Power supply that had 4 12v rails and not enough amps left on most of the rails to run my graphics card. I had to rearrange a few items to make sure that my graphics card was the only device on it's 12v rail.
I would also like to point out according to most sources only the 3090 supports SLI and no one knows for sure if their is going to be a 3080ti which is unlikely due to the fract the 3090 is only going to give about 115-120% the performance of the 3080 for about 200% the price.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Denniss on September 12, 2020, 05:40:11 AM
Let's wait for September 16th to see some benchmarks. Remember that even the 3080 sucks way more power than the 2080Ti, let alone older 1k series cards. One needs a good PSU in the 650W class (80+ Gold) and a case with good airflow, maybe some degree in thermodynamics.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Eagler on September 12, 2020, 06:35:30 AM
The price/ performance of the 3080 looks good to me
For almost the price of the vive pro setup I can get the 3080 and a new HP reverb 2 vr headset and controllers
Eagler
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: bortas1 on September 12, 2020, 11:28:07 AM
bortas, you're going to want to wait and see what the power requirements of the 3070 will be. The good news is that if you can just replace the GPU that your experience is going to be night and day, by all accounts so far.
:salute i fully agree just was wondering if it could that simple or have to get all new componates for computer. since my system is 4 years old i may have to do that and frankly not looking forward to that. :rock
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Drano on September 12, 2020, 12:30:15 PM
When I put my new 3900x system together in March I recycled my 2060 in it knowing this was gonna happen in the fall. No sense buying a new card at the time that was about to be obsolete. Now I'm thinking rather than jump on the first card available I might wait a little bit longer, maybe catch a black Friday deal. Thinking 3070/3080.
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Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: atlau on September 12, 2020, 02:30:59 PM
When I put my new 3900x system together in March I recycled my 2060 in it knowing this was gonna happen in the fall. No sense buying a new card at the time that was about to be obsolete. Now I'm thinking rather than jump on the first card available I might wait a little bit longer, maybe catch a black Friday deal. Thinking 3070/3080.
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2600 is obsolete?
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Denniss on September 12, 2020, 02:42:46 PM
2060 was obsolete by design. Raster performance was OK but limited by 6GiB VRAM, RT was not usable for anything - by far too slow.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Drano on September 12, 2020, 02:42:56 PM
No but I wasn't going to put together a brand new system with top end parts and buy a say 2080 at the time when I knew the next gen of cards was going to be released in a few months. Figuring I'd wait and see what was gonna happen with that and then decide on a new card.
I've built my last few PCs and really enjoy doing it. I like having total control over what goes into them. However, I'm not rich so I'm not building a new one every other year. My last one was a c2011 z68 build I had overclocked a ton and replaced the video card a couple of times to keep up with things. My MO is to build a bit into the future as best I can afford at that time and if this one lasts as long as the last one did I'm OK with it. The old one is now de-clocked and has become the wife's work from home office PC. So it continues to serve us well. I cleaned out the case and reseated the cpu cooler. It's now logging many more hours than I ever put on it!
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Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Drano on September 12, 2020, 02:51:40 PM
2060 was obsolete by design. Raster performance was OK but limited by 6GiB VRAM, RT was not usable for anything - by far too slow.
Yeah. I had it overclocked too! I only got it to help with VR a bit, which it did. The 1060 really wasn't cutting it for VR. No ammount of OC fixing that! So the 1060 is back in the old PC where the 2060 is in the new one, for now anyway.
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Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Max on September 13, 2020, 12:45:18 PM
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: mikeWe9a on September 13, 2020, 03:25:37 PM
Interesting read, but I doubt it is true at the end - Reviewers, industry analysts, etc., would sing out loud and wide, and consumers would be burning nvidia execs in effigy in front of their headquarters (and also, not in effigy).
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Chalenge on September 13, 2020, 11:57:09 PM
The cost-to-manufacture of the coolers is already confirmed. The architecture of the boards changed so much it drew industry attention to the CAD files and no way to optimize the coolers was found outside of the current design. Nvidia modified their approach to make the cards more efficient in heat removal, and that's part of where the problem occurs. Why they go to so much trouble to profit so highly on video cards is well known, as well. While they are involved in computer mapping and logic systems as well, that industry does not sell as many units as video games do. In fact, I am only aware of one company using Nvidia chips for space missions (to the asteroid belt), and they may use a total of ten chips over the next 25 years! Plus, if your chip isn't even powered up until you're in space you don't really need cooling. Shielding, yes, but not cooling.
You have got to love corporate intrigue!
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Mayhem on September 16, 2020, 02:44:16 AM
"The Founders Edition sell for $699, while custom models are expected to retail for up to $900. However, opportunists on eBay are putting up GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition preorders for as high as $1,250, which is blatant price gouging."
At that price I would just wait a week and grab a 3090. at $700 vs $1500 and the diminished returns on performance just make it not worth it. Unless your a professional doing some high end rendering the 3090 is only going to give you an estimated 120% the 3080's performance for 200% the price.
Now at $1200 vs $1500 which gives you 120% performance for 125% the price ... that's easier to swallow .. however, There's a chance Nvidia may slide a 3080 ti in around Xmas for around $1000 by simply halving the 3090's memory down to 11 or 12 gigs vs the 3090's 24gb which is overkill for nearly all games ... you would still be getting around the same performance as the 3090 for a lot less.
"Shocking as it may sound, eBay allows sellers to put up listings of products that he or she doesn't physically have under the presale policy. The platform's rules state that 'Presale listings must clearly state that they are "presale" in the title and description, and guarantee delivery within 30 days of purchase.' As long as the postings abide by the indications, eBay will allow them to stay online."
They really need to do something about this as bad as it sounds I'm willing to bet many onine vendors are going to use captchas to trip up the bots.... I hate captchas.
Since I have a 1080ti and an radeon r9 390 If this goes south for me I can wait for restock and/or prices to come down or wait till the 3080ti or 3080super comes out.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Denniss on September 16, 2020, 05:39:56 AM
2020 is an exciting year for Hardware enthusiasts. First AMD dethroned Intel as having the best/most efficient notebook CPU (Renoir Ryzen 4xxxG series) Second there will be fierce competition in the mid to higher end range of desktop GPUS with AMD and Nvidia releasing new faster generations (BigNavi vs Ampere) Third in October AMD announces Zen3 which should dethrone Intel as having the best gaming CPU.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Mayhem on September 17, 2020, 08:40:37 AM
Well that was a bigger mess than trying to get a Virpil Hotas set up.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: atlau on September 17, 2020, 08:43:13 AM
Looks like the article was correct regarding availability and the pricing.
The next question will be, will the 20gb mod be available and how much will it cost? And will AMDs offerings be competitive?
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Drano on September 17, 2020, 09:01:37 AM
All the more reason to wait and see how this shakes out. In the next few months there will be more choices (including the AMD flavor) at more price points and they'll be more readily available. Not like this whole thing didn't play out this way exactly with the 20 series.
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Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: atlau on September 17, 2020, 09:03:16 AM
At least the performance jump was more significant than withe previous generation. Hopefully competition will be good for the consumers.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Mayhem on September 17, 2020, 11:11:17 AM
Nvidia locked the release of the 3080 to 06:00 PT 9/17.
Amazon B&H Best Buy and the Nvidia store where all suppose to have 3080s available for sale at the release date and time.
I had all 4 websites open in my browser across all three of my monitors at 05:55. I refreshed right at 05:59 and 06:00. Nvidia sold out before I could even click BUY ... It literately flashed available and went to sold out before I could even click on the buy button. With Best Buy I couldn't bet my shopping cart into check out before the item went sold out. New egg was even worse as their site locked up and threw errors. B&H never put their cards on sale and their store site went completely unavailable and they were still down 2 hours later. Amazon never had any cards go on sale to the best of my knowledge however the 3080s went so fast if you blinked you would miss it.
Needless to say I came away empty handed, which has left me feeling a little miffed. I was even set up for email alerts at all 4 vendors ... I never got a single alert.
I get the impression that Nvidia Newegg and to a lesser degree Best Buy couldn't give half a lick about gamers (Best buy never did show gamers much love.) They put nothing in place to slow down let alone stop bots and scalpers. No Captcha No purchase limits nothing. Newegg even seamed like to be feeding the purchase frenzy. It was rather sad.
Sort of like waiting in line on black Friday just to get sandpaper sodomized before you can even get in the door.
We still have other 3080 cards coming out, We also have the 3090 and 3070 coming out possibly a 3080ti (More than likely a 3090 with half the memory for about 1 grand) and AMD has a new card "Big Navi" coming out soon as well. However this mornings panicked purchasing frenzy gives me the impression prices are going to end up in the $900 range for a 3080 real soon.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: 100Coogn on September 17, 2020, 02:29:14 PM
Nvidia locked the release of the 3080 to 06:00 PT 9/17.
Amazon B&H Best Buy and the Nvidia store where all suppose to have 3080s available for sale at the release date and time.
I had all 4 websites open in my browser across all three of my monitors at 05:55. I refreshed right at 05:59 and 06:00. Nvidia sold out before I could even click BUY ... It literately flashed available and went to sold out before I could even click on the buy button. With Best Buy I couldn't bet my shopping cart into check out before the item went sold out. New egg was even worse as their site locked up and threw errors. B&H never put their cards on sale and their store site went completely unavailable and they were still down 2 hours later. Amazon never had any cards go on sale to the best of my knowledge however the 3080s went so fast if you blinked you would miss it.
Needless to say I came away empty handed, which has left me feeling a little miffed. I was even set up for email alerts at all 4 vendors ... I never got a single alert.
I get the impression that Nvidia Newegg and to a lesser degree Best Buy couldn't give half a lick about gamers (Best buy never did show gamers much love.) They put nothing in place to slow down let alone stop bots and scalpers. No Captcha No purchase limits nothing. Newegg even seamed like to be feeding the purchase frenzy. It was rather sad.
Sort of like waiting in line on black Friday just to get sandpaper sodomized before you can even get in the door.
We still have other 3080 cards coming out, We also have the 3090 and 3070 coming out possibly a 3080ti (More than likely a 3090 with half the memory for about 1 grand) and AMD has a new card "Big Navi" coming out soon as well. However this mornings panicked purchasing frenzy gives me the impression prices are going to end up in the $900 range for a 3080 real soon.
They pre-ordered. No way that supply & demand was going to happen for someone just popping in to order a card.
Coogan
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: oboe on September 17, 2020, 02:30:35 PM
So that's pretty much exactly the scenario that Moore'sLawIsDead laid out:
I think I'm better off deciding to be content waiting on the reviews of partner cards, the possible Ti versions of the 3070 and 3080, and of course AMD's Big Navi.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Mayhem on September 17, 2020, 02:44:24 PM
They pre-ordered. No way that supply & demand was going to happen for someone just popping in to order a card.
Well if they did Nvidia could sue them (If Nvidia cares that is). Nvidia contractually locked everyone in to a 9/17 6am PT launch with no reorders until after the launch.
Even the scalpers had to wait till then to order their cards, however the scalpers where already able to pre-sell the cards that they haven't purchased yet with no consequence. If they get the card they ship it to their customer at a higher price on ebay turning a nice proffit. If they don't get the card they just have to give the customer a refund and Ebay won't do anything about it.
However, there were absolutely no purchase limits or Captchas and bots can move and shop a heck of a lot faster than a fleshy can.
This all reminds me of a question my son asked me .... Son "Dad in Bayformers why didn't the Decepticons just buy Sam Witwicky's glasses off of ebay?" Me "Captchas maybe?"
:bhead
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: 100Coogn on September 17, 2020, 03:00:34 PM
Well if they did Nvidia could sue them (If Nvidia cares that is). Nvidia contractually locked everyone in to a 9/17 6am PT launch with no reorders until after the launch.
Even the scalpers had to wait till then to order their cards, however the scalpers where already able to pre-sell the cards that they haven't purchased yet with no consequence. If they get the card they sell it their customer at a higher price on ebay turning a nice proffit. If they don't get the card they just have to give the customer a refund. Ebay won't do anything about it.
However, there were absolutely no purchase limits or Captchas and bots can move and shop a heck of a lot faster than a fleshy can.
This all reminds me of a question my son asked me .... Son "Dad in Bayformers why didn't the Decepticons just buy Sam Witwicky's glasses off of ebay?" Me "Captchas maybe?"
I think I'm going to wail a little bit and try to get the Asus model. I kinda like the three fans. I'm not big on water cooling. (just don't like the idea of liquid running around in my rig)
Coogan
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Shuffler on September 17, 2020, 04:33:22 PM
All the suckers buy now..... be glad you were saved. :devil
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: 100Coogn on September 17, 2020, 04:37:29 PM
It'll be available on the AHIII Classifiedes soon. (for cheap)
Coogan
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Denniss on September 17, 2020, 05:32:18 PM
Nvidia bumped up the speed but also bumped up the power consumption a lot thus also a lot of heat is blown into your case. A Paperlauch with miniscule availability of cards. All this smells a bit like rushed-to-market to be ahead of a competitior regardless of consequences.
The rumored 20GiB version will take well into 2021 as the required larger 2GiB GDDR6X memory chips are not available yet. Unless they plan a Frankenstein with GDDR6 or with the expensive 3090/Quadro/Titan PCB having chips on both sides of the PCB.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Drano on September 17, 2020, 07:33:15 PM
Here ya go Mayhem! Lol
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124341008802
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Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Arlo on September 17, 2020, 07:37:21 PM
Are yew frackin kiddin me!
(https://i.imgur.com/OIuHWhh.png)
Well, at least shipping is only 20.00.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Drano on September 17, 2020, 07:38:45 PM
Lol right? Reading overclock.net forums. Figured it'd be good for a laugh.
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Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Spikes on September 17, 2020, 08:25:24 PM
The worst part about that is there are bids...
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: guncrasher on September 17, 2020, 08:37:14 PM
I wounder if you have to give ebay purchase information before you bid or until after you win the bid.
I'm thinking of creating some shade ebay accounts and go on a fun shopping spree where I run up the bids on these and neg out on the purchase when I win then troll the seller for being a Major Alpha Hotel.
Ebay will more than likely ban my account which is the purpose of the shade account for trolling.
Ya some times I can be a really Major Alpha Hotel myself :D
This whole poop party has left me with a major urge to get some payback!
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Bizman on September 18, 2020, 01:00:48 AM
We have a saying, don't know if there's a similar one in other languages: The one asking for much isn't dumb, the one paying is.
That is it in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Drano on September 18, 2020, 09:15:25 AM
I've heard there are disgruntled buyers that formed burner eBay accounts specifically to troll the scalpers and put these crazy bids in. Can't imagine anyone sane paying that amount of money for a video card. Imagine what they'll pay for a 3090 next week! Get the popcorn ready!
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Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Mayhem on September 24, 2020, 08:20:43 AM
At double the price of the 3080 the 3090 doesn't appear to to offer more than about 10% the performance of the 3080. I did actually take a shot at one this morning, I'm kinda glad best buy's website sucks so bad and I couldn't get my cart into check out 3 times in a row ... the performance gain makes the diminishing performance per dollar return on investment just isn't there to justify the purchase.
Tom's Hardware didn't release a review with benchmarks until a good 10 minutes after they sold out.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Drano on September 24, 2020, 08:25:30 AM
It's not like EVERY tech media outlet has been saying this was gonna happen exactly this way for weeks or anything. It blew up the same way with the 2000 series too. There will be some stock by Christmas maybe.
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Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Mayhem on September 24, 2020, 08:30:11 AM
I'm kinda hoping AMDs Big Navi can at least get between the 3070 and 3080 if not really close to the 3080. Depending on the price I may go for an all AMD system. Since I run Triple monitors I tend to like the way AMD does multi-monitor over Nvidia.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Drano on September 24, 2020, 09:05:36 AM
Even so, when they get released this same thing is gonna happen with them. You know that, right? I'm just gonna wait for black Friday and see if I can get a better deal, such as that is. They'll surely have some cards to buy by then in multiple flavors. And even better, some that have made it into the wild will be tested and reviewed out the yingyang by then. More info to make an informed purchase.
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Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Mayhem on September 24, 2020, 10:48:26 AM
Even so, when they get released this same thing is gonna happen with them. You know that, right? I'm just gonna wait for black Friday and see if I can get a better deal, such as that is. They'll surely have some cards to buy by then in multiple flavors. And even better, some that have made it into the wild will be tested and reviewed out the yingyang by then. More info to make an informed purchase.
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You're killin the dream man! :D
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Denniss on September 24, 2020, 12:45:30 PM
At least the 3090 often has more stable Frame times due to the larger VRAM + Min Fps increase far more then the usual average frame times (over the 3080) Not worth the money if you are a gamer but may well be interesting for productivity tasks
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Eagler on September 24, 2020, 01:10:24 PM
Shade ebay accounts are driving up the price so they don't sell..
These bidders have no intention on paying those jack up prices, it is just to screw with the original buyers.
Eagler
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: 100Coogn on September 24, 2020, 02:39:55 PM
At least the 3090 often has more stable Frame times due to the larger VRAM + Min Fps increase far more then the usual average frame times (over the 3080) Not worth the money if you are a gamer but may well be interesting for productivity tasks
The 3080's will soon have 20GB VRam.
Coogan
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: atlau on September 24, 2020, 03:58:33 PM
Wonder how 6900 XT will compare. Price,performance, and availability
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Denniss on September 24, 2020, 05:29:41 PM
Not soon, well into 2021 as the larger 2GiB GDDR6X-chips are not available yet (even if they would be reserved for Quadros first). Nvidia may use the expensive 3090 PCB with memory chips on both sides but that would also require modifications of the backplate for additional cooling.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Mayhem on September 26, 2020, 01:40:13 AM
Now I'm glad I didn't get one on the first shot .... I wonder if this effects the entire 30x0 line or if it's just the 3080.
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EVGA has seemingly confirmed that issues with a certain type of capacitor are the source of an increasing number of reports of crashes associated with factory-overclocked Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 graphics cards.
These capacitors were cited in a recent article by Igor's Lab as the probable source of the issues that have spawned complaints in enthusiast forums and Reddit about unexplained RTX 3080 crashes and black screens.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Denniss on September 26, 2020, 03:30:14 AM
FEs should not be affected, many of the initial deliveries of custom cards are (with exceptions though). https://videocardz.com/newz/manufacturers-respond-to-geforce-rtx-3080-3090-crash-to-desktop-issues
List of cards: https://new.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/izhpvs/the_possible_reason_for_crashes_and_instabilities/g6jivta/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Chalenge on September 26, 2020, 04:16:24 AM
The card manufacturers will just release a BIOS update that will limit the power usage, so the filtering capacitors won't see so much noise. I'll wait and see if the 3090s have any similar issues. The 3070s are going to be the best buy for most people anyway. I've already got a new system going together, but it won't be a 3080 I put in it. I don't see anyone changing their layouts with an improved filtering scheme. The BIOS approach is just cheaper.
Title: Re: Nvidia RTX 3xxx Coming Real Soon.
Post by: Drano on September 26, 2020, 11:11:49 AM