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Title: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 21, 2020, 02:54:25 PM
Guys I can't tell how this looks on my awful laptop screen.

(Edit in: It is clear this video card is not up to spec.   This poor thing looks awful on my iPad—so pixelated, and the metal is almost white.  So let’s focus on the green.)

It is still a work in progress.   The OD Anti-Glare Paint is not finalized nor are the markings, but I would like some feedback on how it looks in general.   I may have to send it to Devil505 and let him take the screenshots of the final version should these not be any good.

Also, spec maps aside, how does the green look?

The last image still had placeholder nose art, but I caught the metal on the cowling just right...

Mad props to guys like Lazerr who fly with a mouse.   My gawd, this has been a nightmare!

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401217.0;attach=33278)

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401217.0;attach=33280)
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: oboe on September 21, 2020, 03:06:12 PM
I'm not that familiar with Pacific Mustangs, but I could definitely call that green an Apple Green, if that's what you're going for...
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 21, 2020, 03:09:08 PM
I'm not that familiar with Pacific Mustangs, but I could definitely call that green an Apple Green, if that's what you're going for...

I think that's a good term for it.

It sounds like there is no consensus on what it is supposed to be so I went for a derivative of the wheel well/cockpit interior color.

I may be completely off base...
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 21, 2020, 03:15:22 PM
Deleted.   Same as above. 
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 21, 2020, 03:44:34 PM
It looks so pixelated on my iPad.   :rofl

Awful.

We can call this one a bust. 

 :banana:
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Devil 505 on September 21, 2020, 05:22:51 PM
The green looks fine.

It looks very similar to the shade Oboe used on his 80th FS P-38.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 21, 2020, 05:28:55 PM
How about compared to that color photo in the other thread?

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,401200.0.html
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Devil 505 on September 21, 2020, 05:37:46 PM
To match the color in that photo you need to darken it a bit and shift the shade you have towards blue.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 21, 2020, 05:40:50 PM
To match the color in that photo you need to darken it a bit and shift the shade you have towards blue.

Would you suggest that?
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Devil 505 on September 21, 2020, 06:02:49 PM
If it were my skin, I'd try matching the photo.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 22, 2020, 04:54:09 AM
If it were my skin, I'd try matching the photo.

I think the photo has an exposure problem.  If I match it then it won’t be right.   There’s a color balance issue with it and I don’t know which way to shift it.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 22, 2020, 09:03:51 AM
How's this?


(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401217.0;attach=33284)

(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/p51-45fs-jpg.100236/)

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401217.0;attach=33286)
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Lazerr on September 22, 2020, 12:48:31 PM
Nice looking bird.. the green trim is nice, now I get to use it on another one of my favorite birds.


As for the mouse thing, after all the hours I have doing it, its muscle memory.   :D
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 22, 2020, 01:38:37 PM
Nice looking bird.. the green trim is nice, now I get to use it on another one of my favorite birds.

Thanks, man.  I'm trying to work on it (from the UK of all places) with a cheap laptop a friend gave me.   I will probably have to wait until I get back to the USA to post screenshots of the final product as this video card is not the best.

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As for the mouse thing, after all the hours I have doing it, its muscle memory.   :D

If you only knew how many times I've ground looped this sucker into a million pieces while trying to shift viewing angles and forgetting to press the H for the mouse to control viewing.   Oy.   And it doesn't take much movement of the mouse to make this thing go off into the weeds.   :rofl
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Devil 505 on September 22, 2020, 02:28:03 PM
I agree, the color of the reference pic is off.

Seems like it needs the yellow level increased. But I'm by no means an expert on color correction.

The second pic looks good to me.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 22, 2020, 03:30:40 PM
Okay.  I'll roll with that one.   Thanks. 
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Devil 505 on September 23, 2020, 08:11:23 PM
V sent my his files to make some screenshots while he's stuck using a laptop.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9fVCS218/Stinger.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tsrKZLKW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/LsT2FWbH/Stinger-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7Lz85FX)

Nicely done, V.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: lyric1 on September 23, 2020, 10:17:12 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: whiteman on September 23, 2020, 10:29:22 PM
I think that green looks good!
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 24, 2020, 04:14:16 AM
Okay then we'll roll with that green.   Thanks all. 

Devil, are shadows and reflections disabled in those shots?  I want a mental baseline for what I'm seeing.  I darkened the metal 12% over my usual.  I may need to back to back that off.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Devil 505 on September 24, 2020, 07:38:57 AM
Reflections and shadows are on. It's the same settings I normally use for screenshots of my own skins.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 24, 2020, 07:59:29 AM
Reflections and shadows are on. It's the same settings I normally use for screenshots of my own skins.

Hmmm.

I think I went too dark with the metal then...
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 24, 2020, 11:46:44 AM
All right, gang, I've finished it and am going to upload it.   These shots give an idea of how it looks.  Admittedly they are really pixelated because of the limitations of this video card, but I think they give an idea of the final product.

I will post a formal thread for this airplane when I get back to the USA.

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401217.0;attach=33289)

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401217.0;attach=33291)
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: 800nate800 on September 24, 2020, 10:44:45 PM
i dig it
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: lyric1 on September 25, 2020, 01:38:56 AM
 :aok looks real good.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Greebo on September 25, 2020, 02:52:21 AM
Very nice skin Vraciu, looks really good.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 25, 2020, 05:36:55 AM
Thanks everyone.  Just wish I had a decent video card on this laptop for the anti-alias.

Thanks for the photo help, Lyric.   That color one really came in handy.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: oboe on September 25, 2020, 08:21:30 AM
Looks great, Vraciu.  Very distinctive color scheme for the Pony.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 25, 2020, 08:29:46 AM
Looks great, Vraciu.  Very distinctive color scheme for the Pony.

Thanks, man.  Just trying to keep up with you!   :salute
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Shuffler on September 26, 2020, 05:35:54 PM
Interesting stripe pattern. Looks good.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 26, 2020, 05:50:14 PM
Thanks.  Yeah, you can sorta see why they simplified them right before the war ended.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: whiteman on September 26, 2020, 07:42:47 PM
Thanks.  Yeah, you can sorta see why they simplified them right before the war ended.

A book i just got has the simplified profile, it doesn't look bad but defiantly not as different as this.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 27, 2020, 04:40:46 AM
A book i just got has the simplified profile, it doesn't look bad but defiantly not as different as this.

Thanks for letting me know. 

I believe most profiles show a combo of the lot.   We probably have it closer to correct on the complex scheme than anyone else, at least for now.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 27, 2020, 07:38:25 AM
Whiteman, here's a good shot of some of them in a gaggle.  The markings are definitely easy to identify.  I'm working on the lead ship now actually (from a different squadron).

Click to Enlarge.

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401217.0;attach=33299)
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: 800nate800 on September 27, 2020, 11:11:58 AM
now that is a badass picture.
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: SIK1 on September 28, 2020, 11:04:18 PM
Good looking pony.

 :salute
Sik
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 29, 2020, 05:19:55 AM
Thank you.  I'll try posting some better screenshots down the road. 

 :salute

Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Waltz41 on September 29, 2020, 05:43:51 PM
Nice job!
Title: Re: WIP / Screen Test - Maj. Robert Moore - P-51D "Stinger VII" (67) - 15FG/45FS
Post by: Vraciu on September 29, 2020, 06:14:14 PM
Thanks, bro.  Your help was great as usual. 

I'll have an updated thread with better images tomorrow.